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jgreen Posts: 1231 Location: St. Louis, MO |
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That's completely unfeasible. I'd be willing to wager that sales directly from the company website are probably less than 10% the total sales of most titles. The *vast* majority of people still buy their merch from brick-and-mortar stores or reputable online retailers where they can get a discount, rather than paying MSRP from the manufacturer. I guarantee you they wouldn't sell enough to even pay for a print run selling such a niche title direct, let alone recoup any of the money they spent on their license.
I don't like it either, but the music industry has shown us clearly that people can have that reaction. And that's music, something EVERYONE enjoys on some level. Anime and manga, on the other hand, are a weird niche industry to the majority of American society, and finding out that it contains stuff like Nymphet realistically could tear the entire industry apart. |
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Dargonxtc Posts: 4153 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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With that said, it is certainly understandable why he would want to avoid all mainstream press. As far as the letter, it was well written, and from a buisness perspective it was clear to them it was just much more trouble than it was worth. Even though I wasn't exactly for Nyph, I wasn't exactly against it being made available either. After this decision the only way manga like this are going to come over, is if it is a sure thing to make lots and lots of money. So I don't expect anytime soon. |
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| jgreen Posts: 1231 Location: St. Louis, MO |
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Good point. I can almost see it now...."Dateline: To Catch a Loli Fan."
Agreed. Frankly, I'm surprised they were willing to go to bat for this title for as long as they were, but given the amount of the series they had to go buy when they bought the license, it's understandable. Wishful thinking, but I wonder if we'll ever get a statement from the Japanese licensor or creator on their thoughts on the cancellation.... |
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DKL Posts: 1383 Location: California, USA |
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I'm pretty sure that they'll be disappointed once they catch wind of this news... But, I'm also pretty sure that this Seven Seas company place can't really ask for a refund at this point, so... you know... Though, maybe they can get a refund? I dunno... It would certainly help business if they could... but I doubt this'll happen... |
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| jgreen Posts: 1231 Location: St. Louis, MO |
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Right, I doubt the Japanese company is out their license fee, but the original publisher gets some kind of royalty as well, right? They obviously won't be getting that as there won't be any sales to pull royalties from. |
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Livre Posts: 16 Location: Ottawa |
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| Like I said in the previous discussion. they probably shouldn't have called it 'Nymphet', considering the use of the term. When I first say the title, I thought: 'Uh, why is the title a word used in Lolita? It's not a book akin to Lolita, is it? Oh mittens.'
I stand by my opinion that it was something that was marketed poorly, which led to all of this mess. |
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| DKL Posts: 1383 Location: California, USA |
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But still, money is money... nothing to complain about there. All things considering, Seven Seas was the only group that really ended up with the shaft here. (combined with angry people now boycotting their releases...) |
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Richard J. Subscriber Posts: 2931 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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| I'm disappointed with their decision but I'm not going to boycott them over it. They still have titles coming up that I want and I will buy them.
However, my expectations have been lowered greatly as to their potential and I no longer feel that I should expect too much in the way of innovation from them from here on out. This seems to me to be the first step toward censoring and certainly this is a sign that they won't be picking up anything remotely questionable any time soon. |
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| pat_payne Posts: 168 |
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The problem, though, Livre, is even if they marketed this gingerly as possible, even the publisher himself said the content of later volumes gave him the heebie-jeebies. There's no getting around that there's something in that manga that disgusted him, and if even the publisher who's pulling for the release is disgusted, no amount of lipstick on the pig is gonna make the public at large not go berserk. Last edited by pat_payne on Thu May 31, 2007 1:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| tempest ANN Editor in Chief  Posts: 7058 Location: Montreal |
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If you're referring to ANN's rules (not 100% certain you are), we have no problems with people suggesting scans / fansubs for titles that aren't licensed. We just don't allow links to them. For the this matter, Kodomo no Jikan may as well be considered "unlicensed" from this point on. -t |
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| Livre Posts: 16 Location: Ottawa |
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Yeah, I just finished reading the article now, and I agree with that he said. But I'm saying, BEFORE he posted that information and people were just running about because of the title itself, which is a word coined in Nabokov's Lolita, and means a sexualized young girl. |
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| pat_payne Posts: 168 |
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| And in that, I agree. The use of the word "Nymphet" was an exceedingly crass and tasteless choice of title. (Tho' others have pointed out that a translation of the original Japanese title wouldn't have been much better... ) | ||||
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| DKL Posts: 1383 Location: California, USA |
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I remember hearing somewhere that that name was actually something that was suggested from the Japanese side of things... Is there any truth in this? Because... stuff is coming from all over the place, so I'm not sure what to buy. |
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| Livre Posts: 16 Location: Ottawa |
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Sorry DKL, I have no idea. I do know however, that the translation of Kodomo no Jikan (the Japanese title) is 'Kid's Time'. Other than that, I have no clue. |
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| dormcat Encyclopedia Editor  Posts: 7336 Location: Hsinchu City, Taiwan, ROC |
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The story begins at p. 124. spoiler[Aoki-sensei and Rin Kokonoe accidentally got locked in the PE equipment room (pretty cliché, isn't it?). His cell phone was left in the office, and Rin started to feel cold. Aoki took his sweater off and gave it to Rin, only making himself cold. Rin then hug him and shared the sweater in this manner (note: those who know where this picture came from, please DO NOT disclose it unless the owner allows so) but facing towards each other. After a brief chat about Aoki's past and unrequited romance (I'm too lazy to type them all...), Rin was moved by Aoki's words and became very happy and joyous, started giggling while wiggling on Aoki's lap, and he started feeling funny. He knew the hell would break loose if she continues wiggling, so he hugged her hard and told her "don't move, please," while trying to cool himself off by counting prime numbers. Only when Rin's cell phone ringed did Aoki realize that she has a cell phone of her own, and with it they called for help.] The underlined part is pp. 129-131, and while I don't feel it wrong, I can see some people would. Last edited by dormcat on Thu May 31, 2007 1:56 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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