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ichiro3923
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Yeah, what happened to Child Molester Party 1?lol They did not put an 18+ label on them, and made it available for young children? (at least that's what I heard) |
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purple_monkey
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Hmm, I love how whenever something (ANYTHING) is flagged for any reason it's gotta be those right winged facists.
Quite frankly, even if the lolicon in those books are legal in Japan, it doesn't mean that it is well tolerated within a society's definition of good, moral, healthy, etc behavior. For example, I am sure corprophilia is PROBABLY not illegal. However, I think you will find MOST people in ANY society to be turned off by it and want to limit its distribution. It is also similar to those who cry 'right wing facists' screaming like idiots when one of those 'facists' want to put up a big ol' cross on their lawn that everyone can see. Or, if you want an example that you can relate more to, imagine if your neighbor spends all day with a loaded shotgun in his front yard walking all around the perimeter. It is legal and legally acceptable behavior, but definitely not acceptable in societal norms. If you went and complained to the police about this guy (or complaining in your own head), aren't you just a narrow minded facist who wants to cut into this guy's freedom? After all, he didn't do anything. Just food for thought. I'm about the most libertarian person I know (just so you know, that means you can do anything and the government butts the hell out), but even I qualm at lolicon. Some things even my libertarianism won't allow me to support. After all, I am a human and have my own emotions and thoughts. I'm not someone who lives by the letter of the law and can't use my brain to think outside them. As for the books themselves, I'm glad at least the title tells what they are and doesn't try to hide the fact. Better they be up front. |
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ikillchicken
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I gotta agree with Washi here, thats totally irrelevant. There is no direct connection between Yuri and Loli. Infact I would think the majority of loli isnt Yuri. Sorry but you do know what Yuri means right? animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=76 |
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Dargonxtc
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Reminds me of Death Note
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Washi_
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I'm not angry, I just think it's really unproffesional. If the context was clarified in another article then I guess it's not so bad. It just reminded me of another time they took a statistic of how many adult manga featured minors and sex, posted the statistic and did not actually mention the background of the original story at all (which was also about the ability for underage people to purchase these manga). "Also that ANN posts "propaganda" to try and make pedophilia appear bad?" That's the problem I'm trying to address, not whether or not pedophilia is bad. It often seems like ANN is on the warpath with the whole moe/loli phenonemon, and that combined with misrepresentation of news is very poor practise for a news site such as this. >>If there was to be some kind of conterversy around Hentai there I think it would be reported. What I'm trying to say is that this isn't controversy, but ANN would portray it as such. Perhaps I'm just worried that a lot of people who read this site don't have an understanding of the content and themes that are prevalant in the hentai industry, and might overreact to reports like this, thinking that loli is some new enemy rearing its head in Japan. |
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testorschoice
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Definitely, all yuri isn't loli and all loli isn't yuri--but this magazine advertises itself as being "young-girls-only" "yuri." |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Personally I found nothing of the sort of the way ANN presented this article having anything to do with any biased judgment towards or against the content. The way it is presented is simply a telling of a particular piece of current events in the world of manga. Just because it reports of something that is somewhat of a controversial topic doesn't mean that the reporters are making any type of political statement.
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testorschoice
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Uh, it's not just "another article." It's the ORIGINAL article for this update. The context was always there.
Do you have a reference for this?
Again, how are the original article and its updates a "misrepresentation" of the news?
It is controversial. That's why the Japanese print media is reporting on it. |
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fighterholic
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This isn't propaganda, this is real. This isn't through ANN, a group in Japan actually did research for this. Quite frankly I am a bit taken aback by some of the titles they have there. The titles themselves are controversy enough. Some of those titles look like the females might be a little too young, they need to be pulled.
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ikillchicken
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testorschoice: well thats a kinda key detail you maybe outta have mentioned earlier /=
Washi: Im a bit unclear on how theyre misrepresenting stuff. Do you just mean that theyre reporting more stuff about it then they should? Or are they actually posting articles that make news appear different then it actually is? In the case of the later, does this stuff appear bad becuase of how they represent it or it it just the fact that its bad to begin with. That applies to the first part too. If it wasnt bad to begin with, posting alot about it probably wouldnt be an issue. I can see what youre saying about someone who doesnt understand the background might misinterpret this article, but then I think that someone who is uninformed and doesnt understand the history behind these issues could do that in any situation. |
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testorschoice
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Heh, here is a quote from my very first post in this thread today:
I've now mentioned this key detail in four posts. 
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testorschoice
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It looks like the reason is different from one title to another. For example, the Defenseless Age Declaration, Round Shell Second (what does that mean?), Girls Club, and Children's Mark (and even Yochien without the kanji, like someone else said) names are obfuscated enough, even if some of their cover art isn't. But for the others, yeah, it's hard to see why the Kyoto government said there would be confusion even with the most distracted store clerk. |
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ikillchicken
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The key detail that you didn't mention until recently is YOUNG girls. "girls only" leaves out the key detail that its supposedly only young girls.Only saying that its girls only makes it seem like youre making an irrelevant comparison. |
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testorschoice
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Huh? Loli only indicates a female below the age of consent--in other words, a girl. |
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ikillchicken
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Um sorry I guess you hadnt heard: "Girl" is a term refering to women of all ages. It can mean underage girls but I've never seen anyone take it to mean only that. ie. are you familiar with a series of videos by the name of "Girls Gone Wild"? Contrary to your definition, it is not child porn /= Last edited by ikillchicken on Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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