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NEWS: Anime Expo to Move to New Venue for 2008


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ponlork



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:56 pm Reply with quote
sure murders happen everywhere but come on, 4 murders in the span of 8 hours can make anybody concerned. especially when it was during AX and in areas less then 5 minutes apart from the LBCC but back to LACC, the type of crime in L.A are very senseless, and not just murders I'm concerned about assaults, harassments and robbery too. you can't just blindly walk thru south L.A and expect things to be the same as it is elsewhere. That Virginia tech massacre was more of an isolated event. I'm not talking about the entire city of L.A in general, some parts such as Beverly hills are among the safest, yet you go down to South L.A and it's among the most dangerous. So it depends on where you at, and I think where AX is going to be located is a little too close for comfort. that's all I'm saying, I think to just blindly disregard all the risk and dangers around LA and pretend like everything is all peaches and cream is totally irresponsible.

Yeah let's just enforce a curfew for AX haha, that'll be great. everybody go home before 8pm. To quote a quote by Ice Cube, "Every hood's the same, i'm from da land of the gang bang since i left aint a god damn thang's changed".
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:22 pm Reply with quote
ponlork wrote:
Yeah let's just enforce a curfew for AX haha, that'll be great. everybody go home before 8pm.

And how about all the ravers and the drunks?
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:29 pm Reply with quote
pon:
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the type of crime in L.A are very senseless, and not just murders I'm concerned about assaults, harassments and robbery too. you can't just blindly walk thru south L.A and expect things to be the same as it is elsewhere.


You can't walk through a Klan meeting and expect things to be the same, either, but no one is scared to go to the South. Rolling Eyes

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That Virginia tech massacre was more of an isolated event.


Yes, and so were the Columbine and Kentucky shootings....

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some parts such as Beverly hills are among the safest, yet you go down to South L.A and it's among the most dangerous.


Um, Beverly Hills has gangs, too...
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ponlork



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:50 pm Reply with quote
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You can't walk through a Klan meeting and expect things to be the same, either, but no one is scared to go to the South. Rolling Eyes


and that's what I'm saying, any territory that poses a threat, people should take precautions in. That includes South Carolina.You gotta look at the crime rate and statistics in these cities to determine the risk factors. this isn't rocket science here it's common sense and street smarts.

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Yes, and so were the Columbine and Kentucky shootings....


no place in the world is going to guarantee you 100% safety but to blatantly disregard an area where it's notorious for it's high crime rate and registered sex offenders is wrong. it should be AX's job to ensure the safety of attendees and to do whatever they can to prevent any harm.

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Um, Beverly Hills has gangs, too...


sure, but the threat level isn't as high as in South Central. They're more like Malibu's most wanted type gangs. The motives that can get you killed in South L.A is ridiculous, you can just look at someone wrong or wear a certain color and you'll get sweated. I bullsh*t you not
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:05 pm Reply with quote
ponlork:
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no place in the world is going to guarantee you 100% safety but to blatantly disregard an area where it's notorious for it's high crime rate and registered sex offenders is wrong.


Ahem.

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sure, but the threat level isn't as high as in South Central.


Yeah, they'll just shoot people behind closed doors like the Menendez Bros.
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Lord Sesshoumaru



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:08 pm Reply with quote
Allow this Sesshoumaru to describe the LA Convention Center and the surrounding area.

The Los Angeles Convention Center is located near downtown Los Angeles, the University of Southern California and the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. It neighbors the famous Staple Center, home of the Los Angeles Clipps, LA Lakers, LA Kings and Los Angeles Avengers.

The closest Hotel which AX will most likely use is the Figeroa Hotel (Across from Staples), Holiday Inn City Center (across from Staples), Hilton Checkers and the Los Angeles Marriott Downtown (both 4 blocks from LACC).

Food and non-anime related shopping can be conducted in the 7th & Fig shopping district, Little Tokyo, Toy District located in a 12 block urban area on San Pedro St and China Town located on the OTHER side of the 10 freeway.

Other than that, it's a heavy urban community surrounded by an industrial sector and mid-low and low income housing. Technically, it's still in the hood. The parking is HORRIBLE unless you arrive bright and early in the morning. Expect to pay more for parking than what was paid at LBCC. LAPD and parking enforcemant will not think twice about towing your vehicle or placing a boot.

Other than that, enjoy next years convention. And don't mind the looks of the local hoods. They think you look like fools and won't hesitate to break you off. It's best to check yourself before you get regulated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Gatsu:

I'm convinced you must be here purely to troll, or perhaps purely to defend your pet convention center.

It sure SOUNDS like you consider overpriced hotel restaurants to be cheap fare. I don't consider a $13.95 hamburger to be cheap fare. Nor do I think of Hooters as a family restaurant. Pray tell, where were these eating establishments? I walked or rode between the HIlton and the Westin, and down to the area near the aquarium. There was clearly more stuff up pine avenue, but most of the convention facilities and hotels were within the area I described.

As for LACC's safety -- It sure SOUNDS like you're making the case that having had one or two sensational crimes in otherwise safe areas makes them as unsafe as an area that routinely faces high crime rates.

No rational person would put Columbine or Virginia Tech at the same level of risk as the area around the LACC. You can talk about "rate" of violence all you want, but to do so you're ignoring the fact that these incidents were sensational precisely because they took place where crime is NOT a daily occurrence. Isolated incidents that do not fit the general pattern for an area, versus a 30-year history of consistent crime. The more useful statistic is *frequency* of incidents. That is a far better predictor of chances you'll be witness to (or part of) an incident.

And as for your comment to "ponlark" that the fact that ponlark wasn't dead means it's not as bad as all that....this does not resemble our earth logic.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:45 pm Reply with quote
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I don't consider a $13.95 hamburger to be cheap fare. Nor do I think of Hooters as a family restaurant. Pray tell, where were these eating establishments?


Well I dunno about you, but I found cheap and decent places to eat.

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As for LACC's safety -- It sure SOUNDS like you're making the case that having had one or two sensational crimes in otherwise safe areas makes them as unsafe as an area that routinely faces high crime rates.


If they're "otherwise safe", then the cops could get in and not have to worry abot hundreds of people being at risk of injury and murder. When something goes down here, patrol cars show up on time.

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No rational person would put Columbine or Virginia Tech at the same level of risk as the area around the LACC.


True. Our gun laws are stricter here than in your cities. Plus, we actually try to discourage neo-nazis from running for public office. Rolling Eyes

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The more useful statistic is *frequency* of incidents. That is a far better predictor of chances you'll be witness to (or part of) an incident.


Crime statistics tend to be inflated for the purposes of getting more funding and boosting news ratings.

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And as for your comment to "ponlark" that the fact that ponlark wasn't dead means it's not as bad as all that....this does not resemble our earth logic.


Why not? The fact that heart disease and cancer could kill him first obviously shows that crime isn't as out-of-control as you describe it.
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Zac
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:06 pm Reply with quote
jvowles wrote:
Gatsu:

I'm convinced you must be here purely to troll


Arguing with Daniel "Gatsu" Zelter is to stare into the abyss, only to have the abyss say something numbingly stupid in response.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:08 am Reply with quote
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ANN will be working to clarify whether that figure includes paying attendees only or if it represents the total number of badges of all categories that were issued.


Yeah, it's been a week. Has ANN found out anything, yet? I was there, and it didn't seem like 44,000 to me.
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MiwaSatoshi
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:28 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
jvowles wrote:
Gatsu:

I'm convinced you must be here purely to troll


Arguing with Daniel "Gatsu" Zelter is to stare into the abyss, only to have the abyss say something numbingly stupid in response.


I wish I'd written these words of gospel truth.
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