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Anime Expo 2007 - Robotech's Tommy Yune Pied


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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:38 am Reply with quote
Lord Sesshoumaru wrote:
This Sesshoumaru had personally witnessed the incident and found it highly amusing.


As for the pie incident -- it would of been more hilarious if it was a coconut cream pie instead of just whip cream.


Glad you found it to be funny. If it'd been me, the jerk would have been wearing handcuffs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:36 am Reply with quote
In the name of Robotech he said Rolling Eyes I'm surprised that the other guys at the booth didn't start dragging him away. He was a complete a-hole, and couldn't return Tommy's humor when it came to the camera. I'm glad to see that he's getting a permanent ban from AX, because he most definetly deserves it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:44 am Reply with quote
LydiaDianne wrote:
Glad you found it to be funny. If it'd been me, the jerk would have been wearing handcuffs.

its funny a lot of people said that but no one there did anything.

Lord Sesshoumaru wrote:
This Sesshoumaru had personally witnessed the incident and found it highly amusing.

i was there too an i was checking out books and all of a sudden i saw the guy move real quick. all i saw was the two guys with pie on their faces so i thought no harm done right? i mean it was a pie nothing else. it did look pretty funny. expo should liten up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:54 am Reply with quote
On camera, this guy seemed a bit socially and mentally... unsound. He really seemed quite angry. Most anime industry insiders seem to be pretty good sports about this fanatical behavior, but honestly it's starting to concern me. Don't get me wrong. It's just a pie. If this guy had gone in, asked to pie him on camera, and was good humored, I am sure the guy would have gone along with it. He was smiling after a pie to the face from some weirdo. You know something is wrong when the prankee is smiling more than the prankster.

These fanatical haters seem to be getting kind of out there. How much time do people waste on hating something before they stop watching it? This guys little crusade seems empty and misguided to begin with. It reminds me of what my friend was telling me the other day. He had a Palm T3 a few years ago. Had some questions went to a palm infomation site. Everyone in the site was just whining about everything and not really anything that made sense. Basically hating to hate. Nothing constructive or important. 3 or 4 yrs later, my friend got a Palm Treo. He had another question. He went back, and sure enough all the same names are still whining about everything. Is whining now a national past-time? Do we give up valuable time we could use to enjoy our shows, friends, games, etc just to bitch endlessly on the internet about how the Wii sucks because it isn't in sepia yet and that will make all the difference? Fellow Naruto fans know what I am talking about.

Also, this guys somewhat incoherent mumbling, faulty (borderline make-believe) issues with this anime, and the sheer mean-spiritedness of how he did what he did screams social outcast. He just made us all look REALLY bad. Anime fans get enough downright strange judgements because anime is (even today) a little bit misunderstood at times. This guy seemed to be the typical cliche social outcast type who just can't seem to make proper judgements on how to behave or represent himself.

I guess on the off chance our pie-toating little friend is reading any of this, all I can say is this. Let it go, man. It's a cartoon. If you dislike creative choices of the directors, don't watch it as it causes you mental distress. Don't buy it as money is a capitalistic sign of approval. Vote with your dollars. It's a cartoon... Life is too short. Learn to walk away.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:54 am Reply with quote
Wing ZAFT wrote:
i was there too an i was checking out books and all of a sudden i saw the guy move real quick. all i saw was the two guys with pie on their faces so i thought no harm done right? i mean it was a pie nothing else. it did look pretty funny. expo should liten up.

Lighten up? The guy pied Yune on purpose to insult him and you're telling AX to lighten up? Suppose it had been somebody else who had gotten pied, would they have taken it so lightly? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:07 am Reply with quote
Wing ZAFT wrote:
i mean it was a pie nothing else. it did look pretty funny. expo should liten up.


People who are angry and mean-spirited have a tendency of taking things too far. This happened. There are more angles to the problem than "lighten up, buddy!" (dear Lord I hate that phrase). What if the industry guest sued Anime Expo? No more Expo. What if they over reacted and beat the guy to a pulp? The scene would have been pretty bad. What if the fanatical display prompts fewer industry guests in the future? I wouldn't go to Anime Expo with no industry guests. What about the fact this guy was very tightly strung and might have tried something more hazardous because his ability to judge whether or not to punch (or do worse to) a director is lacking and the industry has ignored him too long?

Being funny is all well and good, but there are reasons you don't mess with people like this, especially without warning. If someone reached into a bag that quickly and haphazardly, I'd honestly assume it was a weapon. I'd have done what needed to be assured my safety, as well as anyone elses for that matter.

Oh, but I need to lighten up. It's just pie. The ill-intent, total lack of judgement, and disregard for other human-beings can't have ill-effects. NEVER, I say!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:30 am Reply with quote
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Lighten up? The guy pied Yune on purpose to insult him and you're telling AX to lighten up? Suppose it had been somebody else who had gotten pied, would they have taken it so lightly? Rolling Eyes

dos it matter? its a pie man. i got hit with a pie once by a guy at animazement in north carolina and it was funny to everyone. i laughed because thats what makes anime fans cool. so what if dis guy hit dis guy? its a pie. don't be so hard because you don't know what really happened. just laugh at it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:38 am Reply with quote
vtnwesley wrote:


Being funny is all well and good


That's the problem. He didn't do this to be funny. Given his tone and the crazy rantings about it he posted online beforehand, this was an act of malice. That he chose to smash a pie tin full of whipped cream in the guy's face rather than punch him in the nose doesn't really make it "funny".

If it were a joke, I'd be laughing and Tommy Yune would be a good sport for laughing along. But this guy did it out of bitter rage over a cartoon he doesn't like, something he was sincerely mad about. He wasn't kidding, he thought this was justice.

That's what the problem is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:19 am Reply with quote
What i find so funny that is if you do no agree of
how the robotech franchise is to be run you hit the
person with pie but the funny thing the person running
robotech ,Tommy Yune if someone does not agree with his
opinion then Tommy fires the person, the person
being Tome Bateman. Talk about being extreme who is more
extreme Tommy or khyron. Looking for a job is not
easy poor Tom bateman. Talk about a bad case of
karma, i thought lighting never strikes the same place
twice.

This is what Tome bateman said
"For instance, my issues regarding
the new robotech BATTLESTAR GALACTICA are well known.
I don't like the overall direction or execution
of what they have done, but in the end, I have
come to accept that they are going to do GALACTICA
"their way", it's just the way it is. However, I will
always have a vision for what I believe GALACTICA is
and could be, that's a "fan's right".

You fire someone or throw a pie because he does agree to your
opinion of how robotech should be run. In both
cases these robotech fans Tommy and khyron both
acts like jerks, I mean Tommy and khyron it just a
cartoon, khyron should simply apologize and Tommy should
rehire back Tome bateman and everything will be well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:24 am Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
That he chose to smash a pie tin full of whipped cream in the guy's face rather than punch him in the nose doesn't really make it "funny".

Yea it dos. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:47 am Reply with quote
The person I blame for starting this robotech fan war is none other than jsevakis. The review which jsevakis talk about used a more extreme language.

It is like he his threatening Tommy.
We know you do not like the movie but do not use threatening language when you are reviewing a movie.


Synopsis:

Scott Bernard saved the Earth from the mysterious aliens, the Invid. Now, he's back on a ship, and trying to get over the fact that the woman he loved was actually an alien. But there's new trouble: Rick Hunter and his ship, the SDF-3 are missing. New races of alien enemies are approaching. The cast from Robotech returns in a race to find Hunter, before it's too late.
Review:
No matter what your stance on the Robotech franchise, the one thing you must agree with is that the show, and all of its iterations over the years, have been a bizarre mish-mash of continuity; a mess of stitched-together storylines and stretched explanations in order to merge three completely separate works into one. Those in love with the franchise, I've noticed, have long accepted this limitation. For all of the novelizations, the role-playing games, and the aborted sequels, Robotech is, at its core, the dubbed and reworked editions of three disparate anime: Macross, Southern Cross and Mospeda.
Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing has been debated ad nauseum, but for all its faults, anime as a whole benefited greatly from the exposure. The seeds that Robotech planted in kids have since converted a huge number of anime fans. Now, twenty years after Carl Macek created this Frankenstein of a series, Harmony Gold has resurrected it as a feature film, picking up more or less directly where the last episode left off.
It's such a direct sequel, in fact, that those who haven't watched the last arc of the TV show recently are likely to be completely lost. An attempt is made to bring viewers up to speed: The Invid, who had invaded Earth, have decided that humans are pretty kewl, and are worth saving. So, they're now on our team.
Half an hour later, the real story begins. Captain Vince Grant (an orignal character from the aborted Robotech: The Sentinels) is charged with finding Rick Hunter and his ship, the SDF-3. Scott Bernard (Stig Bernard from Mospeda/New Generation), from the first plotline, joins the crew, along with two young pilots, Marcus and Alex. And so it goes, until this storyline wraps itself up at about the one hour fifteen minute mark, and we veer off into another direction so there can be an unresolved cliffhanger to tease an as-yet nonexistent project.
And so, this installment of Robotech continues the grand tradition of being a bizarre mish-mash of stories that barely fit together. The whole thing reeks of a fanfiction writer struggling to keep the show's worlds and its continuity straight, while at the same time trying to extend the world to go somewhere it was never intended. In otaku terms, it's like the manga artist quit and the filler episode writers took over.
The animation suffers a similar fate. CG space scenes, with their grandiose battles between countless spacecraft, often look like a Scifi Channel original with a little Macross influence. But where the visuals really fall down is in the 2D work. Characters have that hybrid anime-style-drawn-by-non-Japanese look that has become synonymous with Korean anime. The costumes are basically paint-on jumpsuits over Ken and Barbie-with-implants body types, not one of them deviating from another. The cel work is flatly colored, low-budget work along the same lines as a cartoon from American TV. Co-director and writer Tommy Yune has admitted in interviews that he could've used a bigger budget, but I'm not sure that would have solved these problems.
But at its core, what Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles is missing is a strong storyteller. Where the original shows were grand in scope and rich in characterization, this sequel is pallid and bland. When the inevitable cliffhanger reveals itself as the film's ending, few will care to find out more. The excitement-free performances by the (mostly) original voice cast do nothing to help this. Perhaps the advancements in anime dubs since the mid 80's have spoiled us.
All this isn't to say the film is awful. The score, by Scott Glasgow, is the sort of orchestral highlight almost required by space operas, and it adds real excitement to many of the space battle sequences. These parts are genuinely fun. But as soon as the characters come on screen and start talking in ridiculous expository dialogue, the excitement quickly comes to a standstill.
To those few who, to this day, faithfully buy Robotech novels and RPG games, Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles will scratch the ol' Robotech itch, and nothing more. It's inconsequential and forgettable; a Robotech-flavored nutrition bar where one might expect a meal. For everybody else, the film is just good enough to watch late at night on cable. It's certainly not worth anything more than that.


It seems jsevakis was hoping fans express their feeling in disgraceful way towards Tommy yune, So i think jsevakis got his wish,but as fans we should be responsible of what we say because we do no want certain individual going around using our words to take action in bad way. So i will not blame khyron but jsevakis is to be the main blame for the hate among robotech fans.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:51 am Reply with quote
sweta2 wrote:
a bunch of nonsense


Congrats, you've managed to blame someone who had absolutely nothing at all to do with any of this.

We've reached the "let's dive straight into the realm of obnoxious anti-logic" stage already and it's only page 2! Where will this crazy thread take us? STAY TUNED
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:04 am Reply with quote
Meanwhile, Michael Bay has cancelled his appearance at Otakon... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote
Wing ZAFT wrote:
fighterholic wrote:
Lighten up? The guy pied Yune on purpose to insult him and you're telling AX to lighten up? Suppose it had been somebody else who had gotten pied, would they have taken it so lightly? Rolling Eyes

dos it matter? its a pie man. i got hit with a pie once by a guy at animazement in north carolina and it was funny to everyone. i laughed because thats what makes anime fans cool. so what if dis guy hit dis guy? its a pie. don't be so hard because you don't know what really happened. just laugh at it.


The problem with that is they like being able to assure the guests that come to the con's that they arent going to be assualted by food items. Even if he doesn't mind it looks bad for the conventions and sets a bad precedent. If this was 2 fans doing this to each other or if he had mutually agreed before hand it wouldnt be a problem.

There is no excuse for what he did and he deserved to spend a night in jail to teach him a lesson. What he did IS a misdeameanor felony, he is lucky to get off with just being banned at the convention.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:48 am Reply with quote
What an ass! Poor Tommy. Well, he handled it well. But hell it's not something you want to deal with when you're trying to have a good time at a con.

Man it's been years since I've seen 'Tommy Yune'. I was wondering if that name wrung a bell and sure enough it did. I still have his 'Buster the Amazing Bear' comics he gave me.

Fans like that need to get a life and get over themselves. Sheesh! Sad
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