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| mhermance Posts: 7 |
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| (I'm glad that I'm not the only librarian who enjoys this site. *g*) This was a good review, but there was one little detail missing...the buying information. Not everybody goes into the forum to find out the author, etc. By the way, for those of you who aren't at a library staff terminal, according to Books in Print the book came out in July 2007 for $19.95. This doesn't guarantee that it will be at your local bookstore-of-choice, but if enough people request it, the store might even order a couple of extra copies to cover future demand.
If you'd like to see a non fanbase review, there's one in the July 1, 2007 issue of Library Journal. Just ask to see it at your library. It'll make the librarian's day to be asked for something a bit different. |
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| mhermance Posts: 7 |
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| You know, this book is on order at many libraries even as I type, so you might be able to get a good look at it before investing your money on a book you might not want to buy. | ||||||||||
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| CorneredAngel ANN News Staff  Posts: 713 Location: Bloomington, IN |
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That was *supposed* to be the publication date. Things happened, though, as things have a tendency to, and it's not going to street until around late September/early October. Which is unfortunate but hey, what can you do... |
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| Strephon Posts: 176 |
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At least they're being up-front and honest about it, unlike the Anime Encyclopedia (the term "guide" doesn't carry the same baggage with it, for one thing), and as long as the encyclopedic content isn't compromised by the review content, I'm fine with that. And if it doesn't have comments on series the authors clearly haven't seen, that would also be a step up from the Anime Encyclopedia... |
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Viga_of_stars Posts: 1232 Location: Washington D.C. in the Anime Atelier |
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| Hmm...I think I'll buy it if it isn't at the local library. | ||||||||||
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CCSYueh Posts: 1913 Location: San Diego, CA |
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| At his panel. the author said the book wasn't out yet.
He also spoke as though he's no longer with Viz. The "authentic Manga" line at Tokyo Pop kicked off with 4 titles as I recall--Initial D, GTO & Real Bout were among those 4. Maybe Love Hina was the other. I just remember looking all over after con for them & they weren't out for months. |
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| Strephon Posts: 176 |
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Looking through the encyclopedia, Chobits, Cowboy Bebop, Dragon Knights, GTO, Marmalade Boy, Mars, Planet Ladder, Real Bout High School and Skull Man were in the first batch released on 4-23-02, while Love Hina and Initial D's first volumes came out on 5-21-02 (along with Kare Kano, Kodocha and Paradise Kiss). So Love Hina wasn't part of the first wave, but it was very early. (I remember those heady days, when I was buying the collections at a local independent video store, and trying to decide if I wanted the collections of Bebop and Marmalade Boy when I'd already bought the individual comics issues...) |
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Kagemusha Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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WOW, I think I'm at a loss for words. I mean I agree with Offered, as it is great in an insane, pulpy kind of way, but Wounded Man? It is entertaining in a "so bad its good" kind of way or as an unintentional satire of terrible "manly manga," but I'd give it a 0 just for the misogyny and retarded writing. Now if you were rating things based on awesome dialogue...
If I can remember correctly it was actually Last Gasp's publications of Hideshi Hino and Suehiro Maruo's work in the early 90's, years before Tokyopop or Viz started doing it. I'll have to dig out my old Hell Girl trade for the exact date. But definitely interesting in this, if only to see if they really list every title. It should be interesting to see how they rate different series, like if they just go by the first volume or actually try to read everything. |
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Saiyo_Chan Posts: 68 Location: Upper Arlington, OH |
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| Ack...I want to buy this, but I just can't. I already have a list (an actual, paper-and-ink list) of anime/manga that I have to buy in the future, with over 45 titles. Add in the fact that I add titles to the list more often than I buy them, and I can't let myself buy something that would double that list.
I can't regret not buying something that I've never heard of, after all. |
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doc-watson42 Subscriber Posts: 776 |
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I know it (I have it, along with just about every other manga that Antarctic Press ever put out). But then, I started collecting manga in 1990...damn Appleseed, damn it to hell. You buy one graphic novel (on a whim—I was actually only intending to buy a book of Vargas pin-up art), like it, and then realize that between two of the area comic stores you can get complete sets of volumes 2 and 3 of the comics, and then it's all over... <G>
Studio Proteus, actually—Dark Horse was just the publisher, SP was the production house (this was long before Toren Smith sold SP to DH).
Viz Communications (Viz's original corporate incarnation), in partnership with Eclipse Comics and Studio Proteus, started publishing manga in May 1987 with Mai the Psychic Girl, Area 88, and The Legend of Kamui (not to be confused with the anime Dagger of Kamui); at the same time First Comics released the first issue of Lone Wolf and Cub.[color:red][1][/color] This started the manga industry as we know it. However, the first manga to be commercially translated into English was Barefoot Gen in May 1978.[color:red][2][/color] (BTW, Dark Horse's first manga was Godzilla, dated May 1988 ("English translation and publication made possible through the services of Viz Communications"), followed by Outlanders #1, dated December 1988 and produced by (guess who?) Studio Proteus.) [color:red][1][/color] Patten, Fred, "Fifteen Years of Japanese Animation Fandom, 1977–92", Watching Anime, Reading Manga: 25 Years of Essays and Reviews, p. 37. [color:red][2][/color] Patten, "Fifteen Years", Watching Anime, Reading Manga, p. 25.
Penguintruth and Strephon—I'm one of the beta readers for second edition of The Anime Encyclopedia ("TAE 2nd" to me), and am (continuously) working on corrections for the planned third edition ("TAE 3rd"). If you have errors on specific entries that you wish to report (other than more general issues of the inclusion of opinions, and the use of "encyclopedia" versus "guide" in the title), we can start a thread in the Anime Forum (since that seems to be the most appropriate place IMHO), and I'd be glad to address them as best I can. I more than most know how flawed parts of TAE 2nd are (I've submitted 152 correction and update reports since April 2006), and very much want to make the third edition as error free as possible (e.g., I'm currently watching Chrono Crusade, and plan to add a mention of the episode 0 and Azumaria's Extra Lessons videos). The same invitation goes for the rest of the posters, of course. (If you want to submit an error report more directly, the E-mail address for that is included in the book at the end of the Publisher's Note.) |
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| doc-watson42Subscriber Posts: 776 |
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I know it (I have it, along with just about every other manga that Antarctic Press ever put out). But then, I started collecting manga in 1990...damn Appleseed, damn it to hell. You buy one graphic novel (on a whim—I was actually only intending to buy a book of Vargas pin-up art), like it, and then realize that between two of the area comic stores you can get complete sets of volumes 2 and 3 of the comics, and then it's all over... <G>
Studio Proteus, actually—Dark Horse was just the publisher, SP was the production house (this was long before Toren Smith sold SP to DH).
Viz Communications (Viz's original corporate incarnation), in partnership with Eclipse Comics and Studio Proteus, started publishing manga in May 1987 with Mai the Psychic Girl, Area 88, and The Legend of Kamui (not to be confused with the anime Dagger of Kamui); at the same time First Comics released the first issue of Lone Wolf and Cub.[1] This started the manga industry as we know it. However, the first manga to be commercially translated into English was Barefoot Gen in May 1978.[2] (BTW, Dark Horse's first manga was Godzilla, dated May 1988 ("English translation and publication made possible through the services of Viz Communications"), followed by Outlanders #1, dated December 1988 and produced by (guess who?) Studio Proteus.) [1] Patten, Fred, "Fifteen Years of Japanese Animation Fandom, 1977–92", Watching Anime, Reading Manga: 25 Years of Essays and Reviews, p. 37. [2] Patten, "Fifteen Years", Watching Anime, Reading Manga, p. 25.
Penguintruth and Strephon—I'm one of the beta readers for second edition of The Anime Encyclopedia ("TAE 2nd" to me), and am (continuously) working on corrections for the planned third edition ("TAE 3rd"). If you have errors on specific entries that you wish to report (other than more general issues of the inclusion of opinions, and the use of "encyclopedia" versus "guide" in the title), we can start a thread in the Anime Forum (since that seems to be the most appropriate place IMHO), and I'd be glad to address them as best I can. I more than most know how flawed parts of TAE 2nd are (I've submitted 152 correction and update reports since April 2006), and very much want to make the third edition as error free as possible (e.g., I'm currently watching Chrono Crusade, and plan to add a mention of the episode 0 and Azumaria's Extra Lessons videos). The same invitation goes for the rest of the posters, of course. (If you want to submit an error report more directly, the E-mail address is included in the book at the end of the Publisher's Note.) |
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jgreen Posts: 1231 Location: St. Louis, MO |
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Oh, I forgot all about those! I read about them in an article in Spin of all places (it covered most of the manga available in the US at the time....about 5 titles  ) but I've never actually seen them in person.
Another title I just thought of was Secret Comics Japan, which came out at about the same time as DB and DBZ and was released only in an unflopped edition.
Most of the ones I've read so far are all full series reviews, or seem to be.
I haven't tracked down a whole ton of the Antarctic stuff, though I'd like to.... When I started reading manga in '95, I pretty much stuck to Viz and Dark Horse, and by the time I started branching out, that was right around when the AP manga crew left to form Studio Ironcat.
Yeah, I know, but just calling it "Dark Horse" is easier since it's their logo on the cover. |
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| CCSYueh Posts: 1913 Location: San Diego, CA |
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All I really remember is they were partnered with Wherehouse records that year at Comic-con which would have been in July (01, 02, don't recall) & they gave out coupons which expired in October for their authentic manga line & I was worried the stupid coupons were going to expire before they got into the store. I also had a devil of a time finding Helsing--Wherehouse would put out coupons for the next volumes & not get them in for weeks, again risking expiration. I'll have to check my Chobits--I don't recall that being in the first bunch. Same for Dragon Knights (And we're still working on Dragon Knights.) I picked it up later than the first bunch I do know Initial D was part of it because I was totally uninterested in that one. I finally found the first ones at Wherehouse & later found Waldens stocked them & Planet Ladder & Dragon Knights was about then. Once I discovered Walden's stocked manga, it was better, but then there gotr to be soo much, they stopped putting it all out & one had to ask a clerk to go in back & look for the latest volumes because they really didn't seem to understand manga--their shelf was full & they couldn't understand people wanting more when the other stuff wasn't moving (why wasn't manga like regular book series?) I know Samurai Deeper Kyo's first volume issued the same month as the MediaBlasters's dvd because I wasn't sure about buying the anime & wanted to read the manga, but that was much later. It was so much fun finding manga & anime bnack then. The glut we have now is so much better than going to 3 stores looking for the latest CCS or Fruits Basket back then. My GTO & Real Bout Vol 1's are packed (completed series), but my Chobits states First Tokyo pop printing March 2002. Same for Dragon Knights |
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| mhermance Posts: 7 |
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| Thank you, doc-watson42! After years of hearing people complain about inaccuracies in books like this one, this is the first time I've heard of a place where people can let the editors know, so that the errors can be remedied. You warm my scholarly heart. | ||||||||||
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| doc-watson42Subscriber Posts: 776 |
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You're welcome! :D |
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