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NEWS: 2nd Japanese TV Station Removes Nymphet from Schedule

As has been proven time and again in the past, arguing with you is a waste of time.

Considering that our positions are diametrically opposed on this issue, and that (as you have observed) this is more or less the only issue I talk about here, I'll wear that distinction with pride.

So keep dishing out the ad hominem and metaconversation if you want. Tell everyone that I don't understand the world or how to frame an argument. Believe it or not, others can and do decide for themselves.

I think it speaks to the effectiveness of my argumentation. Based on the jargon you're using in this thread ("agendas", "talking points"), you're obviously very into politics. How does George Bush respond when he gets hit with a real zinger? The critic "isn't a patriot." I already know I'm not an ANN Patriot, and that's a point of pride rather than the other way around.

I think it speaks to the effectiveness of my argumentation. (I don't need you to say "eh I may be wrong." The "happen to think"/"objectively wrong" comment was more than enough! I have in-fact printed that and hung it over my desk!)

John does have an agenda. He's routinely commented on his position on this issue and he's on your side, hands down, no question. It was a bit of a scandal a while back when John discussed his hentai collection and mentioned that he had over a gig of lolicon hentai on his hard drive. In fact, John's position on the issue has dominated his image in some circles - he is most definitely known for being into loli. I'm surprised you're not aware of that - at least, you must not be, since you're offering his opinion on this and then taunting me that "no way would he be biased on the subject".

Why did you present Ask John's opinion on the article as some kind of objective trump card when in that very article he admits he's biased toward the genre? Why would you even go to that if you're trying to prove yourself objectively right on the issue?

Maybe you need a new hobby.

However, that hardly means his assessment has no value.

So are all titles with young girls moe?

CCS is from the late 1990's before moe was thrown around & Sakura & her cousin are like 3rd Grade going on 4th Grade & the title is very much about Sakura.

Azumanga is high school, isn't it?

Kodocha is elementary school.

Hare+Guu--the class seems to be ye olde schoolhouse with all ages in the same class from the younger Hare (9?) & Guu(ok, she's not human & has teens living in her stomach. She's eaten almost everyone on the show, but spat them back out. Yeah crazy stuff)

Dr Slump-Arale is a robot so she's like a couple years old, but she's not in junior high yet, is she?

I think you're defining having an agenda too broadly. I mean, I'm sure I could find all kinds of quotes from you and your column arguing against lolicon. You're obviously very against it. So doesn't that mean you have just as much of an agenda as John?

Its not fair to dismiss everyone who defends this stuff as having an agenda unless you also dismiss everyone who condemns it for the same reason. If you just want to say that he's not some perfectly impartial source, fine. However, that hardly means his assessment has no value.

But to a person for whom pro-life is "objectively wrong", I suppose even that is to be completely ineffectual.

I've said this before, but I'll keep saying it: anything one person wants, no matter how much damage it would do to others, is a good thing. Is the ONLY good thing. Human whims are the be-all, end-all of existence.

Individualism is a term used to describe a moral, political, or social outlook that stresses human independence and the importance of individual self-reliance and liberty. Individualists promote the exercise of individual goals and desires. While some individualists are egoists, they usually do not argue that selfishness is inherently good. Others would argue that individualist goals are not selfish so long as they do not harm others, although this is an issue of semantics given that the modern definition of selfish does not contain the word harm. Others still, such as Ayn Rand, argue against "moral relativism" and claim selfishness to be a virtue.

Psychopathy is defined in psychiatry and clinical psychology as a condition characterized by lack of empathy or conscience, and poor impulse control or manipulative behaviors.

I am able to make that distinction because I'm not a total moron who can't separate personal belief from professional attitude.

Just so theres no doubt, I wans't in any way calling you a moron.

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I've said this before, but I'll keep saying it: anything one person wants, no matter how much damage it would do to others, is a good thing. Is the ONLY good thing. Human whims are the be-all, end-all of existence.


Dude. I know you like to say "I'm an individualist!" and post the most ridiculous, inflammatory statements that seem to fit that mold, but...

Personally, I think there's much more practical value in refining argumentation techniques and becoming good at that, rather than doing so in a "hobby" like playing video games or collecting stamps. But I won't bother to try to persuade you.

I suggest you do a lot more research into Kojika before making more remarks like this. In that exact post you quoted, I posted that no one in the series condones her behavior. The teacher repeats your reaction nearly verbatim at parts (depending on how you'd like to translate it). Not the teacher, not her friends, not the other teachers, not her guardian, no one.

Lol what is everyone arguing about? The anime has already been made, and will be shown one way or another eventually. Nothing will change that. End of story.

I've said this before, but I'll keep saying it: anything one person wants, no matter how much damage it would do to others, is a good thing. Is the ONLY good thing. Human whims are the be-all, end-all of existence. We can either admit that and start tolerating one another's opinions, or we can back-and-forth forever:

Even LeVey in the Satanic Bible says one shouldn't force one's will on others. If you want to sleep with everyone in town, but your partner isn't ok with it, you have to go your separate ways rather than force your will on your partner.
And he also stated child & animals are the embodiment of Satan & thus shouldn't be harmed.

And most people think Satanists are out there.

Wikipedia wrote:

Psychopathy is defined in psychiatry and clinical psychology as a condition characterized by lack of empathy or conscience, and poor impulse control or manipulative behaviors.