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HitokiriShadow SubscriberPosts: 4908 |
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| Well, this doesn't sound like anything too serious, just restructuring as companies need to do at times. I was expecting more people in this thread acting as if ADV was about to go under though. | ||||||
| Mozilla Posts: 93 |
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Sorry I just have to laugh at this LOL, okay done. Of course any company would want this news to come and go asap For all we know "some new hired ones" could be 3 people. Well - I hope those fired can find great jobs elsewhere! Random .... Now, if only ADV's prices weren't so inflated in Canada I'd actually buy some of their DVDs ... (if their in stock which their usually not). |
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| Steel Angel Posts: 252 Location: Richardson, Texas |
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Agreed. Business as usual, nothing to see here. |
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| dlw Company Representative Posts: 11 |
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No we're not yet ready to announce that as we aren't ready to tip our hand just yet. And yes when we do, it will be news. I hope (and believe) it will be something that the fans will think is as cool as I do. We shall see. David Williams A.D.Vision, Inc. |
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Psycho 101 SubscriberPosts: 5229 Location: In the Grumpmobile with Grumpyman fighting crime one pot of coffee at a time. |
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Perhaps the people simply weren't performing as they should. Companies do as Ikillchicken said simply lay people off. If they weren't performing properly would you suggest they wait until there's a real problem that might hurt the company? After Geneon perhaps they're cleaning house of under achievers to make way for those up to the task. Plus for all you doomsayers notice how the article said they also H I R E D new people as well. Don't forget that part. I don't see how this is big news. They laid off some people and got some new ones. how is this different from how other companies work? |
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| testorschoice Posts: 465 |
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It's definitely far from big anime-is-dead news or even ADV-is-dead news, and ADV is indicating that it will improve things in the long run. Still, laying off over 10% of your workforce is not small news, either. They hired new people, but notice they didn't mention how many more. Firing people for underperforming and directly replacing them with new people in the same jobs would not be news, but notice that this unknown number of new people didn't directly replace those who were let go. Changing a company's priorities is news, and having a concrete number to get an inkling of how those priorities is changing is also news. According to dlw, ADV was planning this since at least summer, so Geneon's pullback wasn't the cause. You're right that other companies do it. However, a quick search of animenewsnetwork.com shows that when CPM, Funimation, Geneon, and even ADV itself did it before, it was news then, too. |
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| teh*darkness Posts: 588 |
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Wait... right there... I found it... that's your problem... VLC... fails... Anywhere you go, if your watching fansubs, anyone who knows anything will tell you to get C*** codec installer, and it comes with MPC and Zoom, which pretty much work for any file type out there. VLC uses it's own internal codecs, which would explain how any kind of random code could be run, because it was coded to mess with people who use VLC, probably the only program that would execute said virus. Try setting up a virtual pc, and running that file with Media Player Classic, and see if anything happens... I doubt it would. |
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| Mohawk52 Posts: 3862 Location: Celebrating Lindsey Hawker murder suspect arrest, in Basingstoke, UK. |
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| I don't know how it works in the US, but in the UK if a person is "underperforming" they get at least a warning to pull their socks up and start producing the goods. If that doesn't work then they get the sack. Being "laid off" usually means that your job is no longer needed because that department is no longer needed, or that job has been give to a machine to work and there is no other position that a person with your skills can do. They never think of perhaps re-training you because they never think laterally. It's just "Job not needed , person doing job not needed" then spend three times the time and money recruiting a new person to do the new job the old person could have easily done if re-trained. It's OSIFU management, but I digress. As Mr. dlw said it's ADV morphing for a better tomorrow. I hope it works out and I can't wait for the "Big Announcement". |
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| GTO Neko Posts: 37 |
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| Gotta say that after seeing that Geneon's going into a type of moratorium with their releases, CPM being knocked out of releases, and now the laying off 13, everyone is REALLY on edge when they don't need to be.
I've seen stuff like this happen from time to time from working in different places that have had to do stuff like this for actual restructing within the company or actually going out of business due to being actually closed out. ADV still seems to be a strong contender as far as releasing anime along with Bandai and FUNimation. Only other company I haven't heard from in quite sometime is Urban Vision since they've released The Professional: GOLGO 13 and Animeigo since almost ever. Whatever the case, I'm doing what I can to actually support actual releases for the US, but as of late, I've had to scale back alot on my purchases since my funds have been needed for things of actual importance. I know there are others who are in the same boat. |
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| Xanas Posts: 1311 |
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The codec plugins VLC uses are the same libraries though. These are generally open source codec implementations that are distributed in codec packs like CCCP (aside from divx, there is xvid, x264, etc. which VLC is going to implement using the same libs). So I'm not sure if the problem is actually VLC. He has contacted me concerning this directly and I'll be sure to test it with a virtual box and a variety of different media programs. It's got me a bit curious. I still think he is overstating his claim a bit, but I'll let everyone knows how it goes. |
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| Moogle-X Posts: 23 |
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| I still believe it would be highly unlikely that these layoffs are unrelated to the deal that fell through between ADV and Geneon. Obviously, taking on Geneon's catalog as a distributor had some potential for a strong increase in ADV's market share and you know that losing a deal that close to completion had to have hurt and/or damaged longterm plans already in place with these items as the epicenter.
I still am extremely curious what caused the deal to go through. Was it Geneon who pulled out or ADV? If it was Geneon, did they see or discover something about ADV's status that made them question the validity of the plan, ADV seeing the same of Geneon or could a foreseen projection of future sales and market share make it unattractive to have so many irons in the fire now competing with two company's products under one roof? I still see a major down turn in the US Anime industry ahead. Will Geneon be the last to fall in the industry? Probably not. Does this mean no more anime available or it disappearing entirely? VERY unlikely. Will Japanese companies suffer from fewer revenues from exporting titles to Western countries due to fewer companies making bids though? Most Definitely. (Simple Supply > Demand). And where do the cuts come from in this sort of situation? Opportunity costs get higher and production budgets get lower. Where does it go from here? Who knows, but someone will have to make a very BOLD move in my opinion in order to turn it all around at this point. Just a quick note to everyone still in the thread though. One of the chief rules in business is to remain profitable and maintain consumer confidence. If you were in dire straights, would you want your customers to know and increase the chances of things going worse? Definitely not. Furthering the card analogy, you never show your hand until you have to and bluff as long as you can to try and manipulate the game. Not that I am saying any company is doing this, just that this happens alot in business. Geneon seems to have been playing this game of course since noone heard anything about this and suddenly we hear they are shutting down overnight. Decisions like that don't happen on a whim. But would we have bought volume 1's of some of the new series (Saiunkoku, Shonen Onmyoji, When they Cry) if you knew you'd never get the rest? (Tokyopop's Clamp Chess set is a fine example of that.) But enough ranting out of me... Good luck to you ADV and your new restructuring. Sad to hear that it cost some jobs, but hopefully your new plan will have made it worth it. Let us know something soon so we can put our minds to rest though, will ya? |
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| Moogle-X Posts: 23 |
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| Okay, one last rant. A counter-rant actually...
Thinking about it, what if ADV isn't necessarily losing on the deal with Geneon, but is outright purchasing Geneon to absorb them into ADV? This would be something not to tip the hand on as obviously they would not want any outside bidders and layoffs may be positions that will be duplicated when the company comes together? Just a bit more crazy that popped into my head just now. |
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| Hon'ya-chan Posts: 905 |
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Your gonna release Porn? |
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doc-watson42 SubscriberPosts: 776 |
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"AnimEigo Giving Out Yawara Volume 1" Yawara! at AnimEigo But you're right about Urban Vision—they are essentially defunct.
Been there, done that (NSFW). Old version (note the E-mail contact address); however, The Right Stuf International has basically taken over the more recent Pink Pineapple side of the catalog, with the Green Bunny and "other" (Guy) portion being left fallow, presumably for obscure (to us) licensing reasons. ;_; |
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Richard J. SubscriberPosts: 2931 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Wishes the annoucement involved funding a new, full length season for UFO Ultramadien Valkyrie. |
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.... Now, if only ADV's prices weren't so inflated in Canada I'd actually buy some of their DVDs ... (if their in stock which their usually not).