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ichiro3923
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:24 pm |
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| One more thing: if Geneon drops the title, will the same voice actors still be hired for the dub? |
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Randall Miyashiro
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| Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:28 pm |
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| I believe that the same staff will continue on future episodes. I noticed that people seem to not differentiate between dubbing studios and distribution companies. I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to dub the new episodes even before the series is picked up by a company. I hope that whoever picks it up will start putting two episodes oer release, since this is a decision made by the distribution company, |
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fighterholic
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:37 pm |
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| ichiro3923 wrote: | | One more thing: if Geneon drops the title, will the same voice actors still be hired for the dub? |
If they don't want to kill the series then they would want to continue with the same dub actors. What impresses me about this series for one is that I actually like the dub for this series on top of the original Japanese track. Both languages bring about an different identities to the series in their own unique ways. |
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:06 pm |
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| ichiro3923 wrote: | | One more thing: if Geneon drops the title, will the same voice actors still be hired for the dub? |
Hard to say. For some shows being done by other studios, the dubbing is already complete or almost complete. But with the length between releases for Hellsing Ultimate, they probably hadn't even started on episode 4; Geneon may not have even had the materials for episode 4 yet.
Since Geneon doesn't get used very often, I would guess they are more expensive than most other studios. And if ADV or Funi got it, they have their own in-house studios they usually use. Considering the differences in locations, it would be difficult to get the same people if a different studio was used and it would probably be a big cost increase for Funi and ADV. It would probably be a big increase for other companies to use them over, say, Ocean or Blue Water as well, but perhaps not quite as much. But if Hellsing was selling well enough, they may be willing to pay the increase. Maybe. It's hard to say.
So, in short, its impossible to say and difficult to even guess, especially since Geneon's situation hasn't been cemented yet. |
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babbo
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:28 pm |
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| ichiro3923 wrote: | Ultimate SEries 3 is currently my favourite out of all the Hellsing OVA. The only thing I really wanted was 5-10 more minutes of action between Alucard and Alhambra; and it's mainly because I wanted to see more of Alhambra's crazy card powers. It felt like the duel was only 2 minutes long before Alucard kills him. As for the rest of the violent scenes, I'm used to the graphic violence, but I'm not used to the disturbing elevator scene, particularly the one soldier who was manipulated and kept pressing the 'open door' button
I hope OVA 4 comes sooner to North America, 'cause I'm dying to see who will be Alucard's next unfortunate victim to squeal like a pig  bwahahaha! |
Really o,o The elevator scene was THE reason that I wanted see this one. Gratuitous violence aside it was so badass when he opened the doors with his guns o,o;;
You could always check out the manga for now, even dark horse's release is well past the events of the OVA <.<
to be honest, I personally enjoy the manga more, some elements of the mangaka's style are sorta lost in the transition from the manga to the anime imo. |
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ichiro3923
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:53 pm |
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| In the review it gave Animation an A- and Art a B+. What's the difference between animation and art? Is he refering to the character design for Art and fluid action in Animation? |
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Walker-san
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:28 am |
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Taliesin Jaffe already stated that he's working on OVA IV, so, its definitely coming out here, its definitely gonna have the same staff, and its definitely gonna be just as pretty.
What we DON'T know is exactly who will distribute it, or when. But, I would think it wont steer off course, seeing as they are already working on it despite the fact that its not even out in Japan yet... |
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ikillchicken
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:42 am |
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| Walker-san wrote: | Taliesin Jaffe already stated that he's working on OVA IV, so, its definitely coming out here, its definitely gonna have the same staff, and its definitely gonna be just as pretty.
What we DON'T know is exactly who will distribute it, or when. But, I would think it wont steer off course, seeing as they are already working on it despite the fact that its not even out in Japan yet... |
Are you talking about just OVA IV or the series overall? IV stands a decent chance of being completed (and then the only question is distribution as you said). However, in addition to Geneon currently lacking someone to distribute their DVDs, they have suggested they will be pulling out of the buisness entirely come the end of the year. They may end up producing IV but somebody else will have to produce the rest of the series. At that point, its anyones guess exactly who will be producing and distributing it. Its tough to say wether they will be able/willing to use the same VAs.
Also, should Geneon not find a way to distribute OVA IV (or if production isn't finished by the end of they year.) it will be in the same boat as the rest of the series in terms of VAs. Just because a Dub exists doesn't neccissarily mean it will be used. Its possible it could get hung up in legal issues. |
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snl67
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:39 am |
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For what its worth, here are my 2 cents: I bought the LE and I love the show. I am a little disappointed that Geneon didn't offer an LE version without the figurine like they did with Volume 1 - nothing against figurine collectors, its just not my thing. But I definitely wanted the extras, and the tin collectors case to match the first two.
Musically I have no problems with the series, but I wish they had used the closing theme from Volume 1 for all the closes - the instrumental pieces they have used for 2 and 3 just didn't have the impact of "Gradus Vita".
No matter who ends up distributing this in the future, I believe there is no reason to think the same dub cast would not continue. ADV and Funi has used other studios in the past in an attempt to keep dub continuity, and this property is too valuable to mess up with a new dub cast. |
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MokonaModoki
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:01 pm |
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| ikillchicken wrote: | | Are you talking about just OVA IV or the series overall? IV stands a decent chance of being completed (and then the only question is distribution as you said). |
As of Friday Jaffe was saying that the dub for IV was already done. He expressed plenty of confidence that that someone would pay for the dub eventually.
| Quote: | | Also, should Geneon not find a way to distribute OVA IV (or if production isn't finished by the end of they year.) it will be in the same boat as the rest of the series in terms of VAs. Just because a Dub exists doesn't neccissarily mean it will be used. Its possible it could get hung up in legal issues. |
There's no reason to hope that Geneon will be distributing IV. But once Geneon is out of the picture and someone else takes over production the hard part is done. After that it isn't actually that tricky.
New Generation Pictures is the studio in question, and their anime company clients have included (in addition to Geneon): Bandai, RightStuf, Central Park Media, Media Blasters, Urban Vision and TokyoPop. Without commenting on the likelihood of any of them getting Hellsing, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't just keep NGP for the ADR production if they did. You don't fix what isn't broken.
Funimation (who I would pick to get Hellsing if we start taking bets) hasn't used NGP, but based on their effort at keeping the cast together for FMP:TSR they've already shown that they 'get it' and are capable of letting another studio do the ADR work. They could use NGP just as easily as anyone else.
And even if they didn't use NGP they already have a record of making productions work with actors who are usually associated with west coast studios, and if they used Taliesin Jaffe they'd get the actors easily. They already have a good working relationship with Jaffe from his work on Beck, and Jaffe was able to use a studio in Seattle to direct K.T. Gray (Hellsing's Seras Victoria) for her work in episode 23. Funimation's Mike McFarland has also already worked on Hellsing on the script for II.
The only real question mark for companies that might have an issue keeping the same staff+cast might be ADV (who I don't think have ever gone outside of Texas for ADR production), but even then I'd be shocked if they didn't make the effort.
It was Geneon that would do things like dump ADR work to Odex and wouldn't use the Texas cast when they got Saiyuki Reload. As long as it gets picked up by a company with a budget to do anything beside dump a crappy subs-only release it should turn out fine. |
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:49 pm |
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| ichiro3923 wrote: | | In the review it gave Animation an A- and Art a B+. What's the difference between animation and art? Is he refering to the character design for Art and fluid action in Animation? |
Art is just that: art. Pictures.
Animation is the movement of the pictures.
| snl67 wrote: | For what its worth, here are my 2 cents: I bought the LE and I love the show. I am a little disappointed that Geneon didn't offer an LE version without the figurine like they did with Volume 1 - nothing against figurine collectors, its just not my thing. But I definitely wanted the extras, and the tin collectors case to match the first two.
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I think they are doing a figure-less version, but I don't remember which store is supposed to have it. |
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vbann
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:03 pm |
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Even when it does get picked up by another company will they re release volumes 1-3? These will be out of print and completely unavaliable by the time ova 4 and 5 are released.
And I really hope whoever gets the show releases steelbook LE's for the series. |
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ikillchicken
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:08 pm |
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MokonaModoki:
Thats all speculation though. I don't think anybody here is at all clear on how the whole process works legally. (Save maybe Tempest or Zac or somebody who I'd love to see clarify some of this.)
One large question would be how exactly the licence to distribute Hellsing Ultimate will fall into the hands of another company. Will they make some kind of deal to cancel the licence in exchange for a partial refund? From there another company would have to re-licence it. At that point, do they automatically get everything Geneon had produced? Or does that remain property (useless propety mind you) or Geneon? It seems possible that may put them at square one, with nothing but the Japanese version just like when a company licences anime normally.
Or possibly Geneon might arange to sell the licence directly to another company. This would seem like the ideal solution since they would be more likely to then inheret all Geneons work on it, but unfortunately I would think this would require at least the approval of the Japanese company. That could tie things up in alot of red tape. Also, theres always the unfortunate possibility that Geneon will do nothing and simply hold on to their licence even though they have no plans to do anything with it. I could be wrong, but I don't think it would automatically expire or anything just because of that.
Because of all this, the completed Dub is almost the bigger question mark than the Dub for the rest of the series. Its up to the companies what to do for future Dubs. However, Dub IV already exists which means we have to ask: Are they allowed to use it? If not, will they reDub with the same actors? Or will they just take the opportunity to start over with their own actors? vbann raises a good point in the post above mine. Everyone is talking about OVAs IV and up. However, what will happen with I - III? Again, its the same potential problem as with the Dub of IV. Its even possible that a company might just start from scratch and release I with a new Dub. |
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babbo
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:23 pm |
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| HitokiriShadow wrote: |
I think they are doing a figure-less version, but I don't remember which store is supposed to have it. |
Best buy isn't it? Not sure about the third volume but they did it with the first and second. Nothing on any of the OVAs is showing on their website though o,o |
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:25 pm |
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| I believe FYE/Suncoast did the figure-less version for volume 2. |
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