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NEWS: ADVFilms.com Lowers Prices on Episode Downloads

I just realized that more than one ANN article is linking to this thread, and that I came from an article different from the one this thread links back to. I also am checking out the ADV website right now.

I'm shocked. It's just as Furudanuki has said. The $2 per episode price applies only to a pathetic 320x240 crap quality low-res download. Who in their right mind would pay anything for that? Offering a service is fine and all, but when it's a service that almost no one would pay for, it's just fluff to make their company look better, or make themselves feel better, as far as I'm concerned.

The supposedly DVD-quality 632x480 resolution episodes cost $4 an episode, which is essentially the same price as the individual DVDs themselves. Ridiculous.

Last edited by Paploo on Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:15 pm; edited 1 time in total

1- This is silly stuff to complain about people. They're giving you what you've been asking for and more. C'mon now, accentuate the positive Anime smile

2- Canadians can access the streaming episodes on http://www.theanimenetwork.com/ , which is quite nice of ADV if you ask me.

They don't have to give us anything [and given how some fans act sometimes, probably shouldn't even think to], and it's quite nice of them when they do. Show some appreciation for ADV's hard work- I imagine this involved a lot of finangling with licensors. They put a lot more work into this, and are delivering fans an online, accessible alternative, for very cheap, or free in TAN's case [with commercials, just like they have on TV in Japan, y'know]

I think this is a very positive move on ADV's case, and deserves support. If its successful, hopefully it'll expand in a way that most official legal downloads/streaming sites haven't.

[and on a neat note, Magical Play is featured, which originally ran as a web cartoon on Lycos Japan ages and ages and ages ago]

I never asked for downloadable anime. I would rather ADV do some work and release all those manga they suddenly stopped translating a few years back. Not just Gunslinger Girl.

I see what you mean about being more positive about this, though. I think my first post was relatively positive. But after that, with all the debate, my arguments turned extremely negative...oh well.

TokyoPop only acquired the rights to Aqua, a related title but not the same title, as far as I know. The Aria manga itself has not resumed. ADV Manga's canceled titles are still in licensing limbo. In such a state, ADV isn't doing me a service, they are doing me a disservice. They steal my money and prevent me from getting what I want legitimately. They are the enemy in every shape and form (for that particular title).

There may not be demand for their canceled titles, but once they take money from me, they better finish the job, demand or not. There should be laws against what ADV Manga and Geneon USA did, in my opinion. (Maybe there are, they may have had to pay fines for their actions, I have no idea). If you accept a contract to paint someone's house, then only paint half their house and throw down the buckets and leave because you feel like it, you need to refund all their money, not just half their money (sometimes, anyways...not all the time Anime smile

; but in any case you'd easily get sued for doing something like that).

How does buying something you don't value send a signal to make it better or to fit what you want? It seems to me that buying sends the signal that you accept it as is. Please explain why the companies would come to any other conclusion?

Lets take an example. For years linux gamers have wanted more linux games, yet they continue to buy the windows games. Have we seen an increase in games for linux? Absolutely not. Apparently even publishers like Blizzard who already make and use an opengl renderer aren't willing to take the time because their games run fine in wine for those with mid-range systems.

Or what about a content example. Many complain about movies being cliche, and all the sequels, etc. yet sequels make big $ in sales. Do we see the industry moving away from high numbers of sequels?

Also let me note for the millionth time that many of those complaining in this thread (if not all) are buying DVDs, at least of those I've read so far. Of course conveniently people disregard, call us whiners, and accuse of us not buying anything because we aren't readily accepting services that don't meet our criteria.

Last edited by Draneor on Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:59 pm; edited 2 times in total

I admit that it may be good that at least ADV has done something. But I've never been one of those people who think paid video downloads are the solution. Certainly at these prices I don't think they are.

I've never downloaded a fansub in my life and I personally advocate stamping out fansubbing with an iron fist. I don't know if that's the truly best thing to do though, that's just my current feeling (which may be foolish). I would rather see ADV spend their time doing other things. Like stamping out fansubbing, stamping out HK pirates, and doing a better job with their releases. Finish releasing what you start. ADV Manga and Geneon USA are currently worse than pirates as far as I'm concerned.

Xanas, I know from experience in these specific threads that touch on fansubs you usually get severe 'tunnel-vision' and jump off on your own tangents, but to give it the ol' college try...

1. There's absolutely no 'blanket accusation' calling everyone who complained leeches. As I've stated before I've been watching fansubs in some form or another from a time when a portion of posters in this thread were probably still in their diapers. I made careful reference to a 'certain percentage', and not 'all' or 'most' for a reason. My other point was to inquire why people who clearly expressed no interest in downloadable content anyway were bothering to castigate something they wouldn't use regardless.

2. As to 'what got better with consumer demand/use?', I gave an example right in thread--itunes. That's one of the premier downloadable content sites, and it got progressively better as people flocked to it.

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