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NEWS: BayTSP Acknowledges Sending Warning Notices by Mistake


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PorscheGTIII



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:35 am Reply with quote
I came across this article on this situation...

This is very interesting.
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Ai no Kareshi



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:44 am Reply with quote
PorscheGTIII wrote:
I came across this article on this situation...

Thanks for the read, PorscheGTIII.

Amusing how Liew Hanqing mispelled Odex as "Oxex" in the second column of his article there. Cool
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ralphmerridew



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:38 pm Reply with quote
So, what's the probability that BayTSP actually gets charged with perjury for doing that?
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Xanas



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Not a chance.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:51 pm Reply with quote
ralphmerridew wrote:
So, what's the probability that BayTSP actually gets charged with perjury for doing that?


Perjury really has nothing to do with this situation. Theres pretty much no chance of them facing any reprocussion at all either. Though it was a mistake as nobody had asked them to report people in other countries, they did nothing wrong in reporting these people. They had infact broken copyright law and thus reporting them was completely justified.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:29 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:


Perjury really has nothing to do with this situation. Theres pretty much no chance of them facing any reprocussion at all either. Though it was a mistake as nobody had asked them to report people in other countries, they did nothing wrong in reporting these people. They had infact broken copyright law and thus reporting them was completely justified.


Yes and no, unless I'm mistaken Odex only has rights in singapore. The original anime producer, who fully owns the copyright can report users anywhere, but I'm pretty sure a regional licensee only has jurisdiction over the region they reside in as per contract terms.

It's like your nosy neighbor bob calling the cops on you for hopping the fence and slipping in to your buddy jimmy's house. Jimmy's the one who has jurisdiction over his house, not Bob the neighbor.
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bayoab



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:59 pm Reply with quote
Fallout2man wrote:

Yes and no, unless I'm mistaken Odex only has rights in singapore. The original anime producer, who fully owns the copyright can report users anywhere, but I'm pretty sure a regional licensee only has jurisdiction over the region they reside in as per contract terms.
You are partially mistaken. Odex isn't a licensee for many of these titles. They are an authorized agent by contract to enforce the copyright in Singapore. The question is whether this contract makes them an agent anywhere else.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:10 pm Reply with quote
ralphmerridew wrote:
So, what's the probability that BayTSP actually gets charged with perjury for doing that?


Not likely, it was a mistake.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:31 pm Reply with quote
Fallout2man wrote:
Yes and no, unless I'm mistaken Odex only has rights in singapore. The original anime producer, who fully owns the copyright can report users anywhere, but I'm pretty sure a regional licensee only has jurisdiction over the region they reside in as per contract terms.

It's like your nosy neighbor bob calling the cops on you for hopping the fence and slipping in to your buddy jimmy's house. Jimmy's the one who has jurisdiction over his house, not Bob the neighbor.


Perhaps it is a different case with this, but unless I have vastly misunderstood the law, yes, you can call the cops on somebody for breaking and entering even if it isnt your house. You couldn't bring a lawsuit against them if its not your house, but then thats not what BayTSP did. They simply reported them for their illegal actions. They were legally correct to report these people, even though there was really no reason for them to do so. It is possible that you are correct and you can only report people for violating copyright of something you own, but I really find that doubtful.
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ralphmerridew



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:57 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
ralphmerridew wrote:
So, what's the probability that BayTSP actually gets charged with perjury for doing that?


Perjury really has nothing to do with this situation. Theres pretty much no chance of them facing any reprocussion at all either. Though it was a mistake as nobody had asked them to report people in other countries, they did nothing wrong in reporting these people. They had infact broken copyright law and thus reporting them was completely justified.


IIRC, to get a takedown under the DMCA, the sender must state "Under penalty of perjury, I ( own the copyright to | I am an authorized agent of the copyright holder of ) ____,"

If BayTSP made such a claim without the appropriate authorization, they should be appropriately punished.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:49 am Reply with quote
For causing so much grief for users outside of Singapore, I certainly hope that BayTSP gets fined big time.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:31 pm Reply with quote
ralphmerridew:

Okay, you're right. I had assumed you meant perjury in court. If they did do this I guess it is possible they could end up in trouble.
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