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NEWS: Virginian Teen Suspended over Names in 'Death Note'

“People have the right to react suspiciously and cautiously given what goes on in schools these days”, give me a break, this guy rights some names down in a note book and you start making comparisons to the Virginia Tech massacre.
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I remember a incident much like this back when I was still in high school were two boys at my school were trading treating letters back in for between each other for the fun of it, a teacher found out about it and they were sent the principles office. Do want to know what happened next? He took the time talked to them about it and found out it was nothing more then a dumb came they were playing. He then told them to stop doing it or they would get in serious trouble, and wonders of wonders they agreed to stop doing it and to never do it again it the future. You see the lesson here, no one was suspend, no one was held up the eyes of the world as the next Charles Manson, all it took was about a hours worth of work to straiten the whole mess out. If those involved in this current mess had just taken the time to find out what was really going on this whole mess might have been avoided.

We aren't talking about your school, we aren't talking about someone who simply said the word gun and got suspended. We aren't talking about someone who got sent home because he didn't shave. And we aren't talking about someone who got his/her cell phone confiscated. This is completly different, and if you can't see the difference then your either not in reality, or are just being a whiney nihilistic brat.

Why is the school all of sudden not supposed to take hit lists, fake or not, seriously??? When prank fire alarms are pulled, does not the same school empty out into the courtyard regardless??? Yes, they do. And when they find out who did it, do they punish them??? Yes, they do.

Or in other words there should be no rules . Because rules = oppression . I am sorry you went to such an unjust school. In mine we had some of those very same rules, like no cell phones, and yes, they would take them. Or no short skirts, and yes they would send you home to change. And the vast majority of my class of 400 turned out A ok. And oh yeah, I am pretty damn sure if someone was caught making a hit list, fake or not, they would get in big trouble for it.

But no, we can't have any rules or standards, that would be a vast injustice. And anyone who doesn't wear a Che Guevara T-shirt is just a cog in the wheel, right?

child of Lilith wrote:

“People have the right to react suspiciously and cautiously given what goes on in schools these days”, give me a break, this guy rights some names down in a note book and you start making comparisons to the Virginia Tech massacre. ... I remember a incident much like this back when I was still in high school were two boys at my school were trading treating letters back in for between each other for the fun of it, a teacher found out about it and they were sent the principles office. Do want to know what happened next? He took the time talked to them about it and found out it was nothing more then a dumb came they were playing. He then told them to stop doing it or they would get in serious trouble, and wonders of wonders they agreed to stop doing it and to never do it again it the future. You see the lesson here, no one was suspend, no one was held up the eyes of the world as the next Charles Manson, all it took was about a hours worth of work to straiten the whole mess out. If those involved in this current mess had just taken the time to find out what was really going on this whole mess might have been avoided.

he was not just writing down names in a regular notebook, it was a notebook that clearly says "DEATH" on the front cover.

and secondly, when were you in high school? if you were not in it last year, when at least 3 deadly school related shootings occured, then you have no reason to compare these two incidents. threatening letters between two people, friends no less, is different than a list of people that this student was not friends with. did those students whose names were written, know about the deathnote untill recently? maybe not. did those two students know about the threatening letters being just a joke? yes. unless they were threatening another student as well. despite the several hours that were used to determine the reason, they still had a very good chance of being suspended or expelled, depending on the true content of the letters. this death note thing couldn't have gone on for as short a time as you make it seem. he was probably sent to the principle as well, and that was when they realized that he was making this joke on his own with no outside knowledge.

to go back to my question to you, if you were in high school before the Columbine incident, and yes i know it was not the first incident (but it was the worst until VT), then it may not have been as much a problem. another thing that seperates both Columbine and VT, is that the killers in both incidents were students themselves.

btw, if you were in high school after these incidents, then perhaps the letters were not met with appropriate action.

Now I have a question for all of you, are you going to take any responsibility on to yourself if this guy now goes out and does something violent because he has been labeled by all of you as a budding sociopath, because if he does the reason for whatever he does will most certainly lead right back to this current mess.

and i shall do so with a question of my own. when did we ever label him as a budding sociopath?

Hon'ya-chan:

You don't play what-if games like your doing with peoples lives. If your still in school, which I imagine you are, I suggest you start writing hit lists immediately. And don't overly hide it either, and make sure in big letters at the top it says something to the effect of "People whom will die" followed by a specific list of real classmates.

suna_suna wrote:

and i shall do so with a question of my own. when did we ever label him as a budding sociopath?

A couple of you via proxy, still a number of you by your words, a few of you for actually upholding the suspension AND claiming it was a good thing to do.....

So by saying I, and anyone else who agrees, think the suspension was a good idea that means I labeled him as a budding sociopath? Really?

psycho 101 wrote:

So by saying I, and anyone else who agrees, think the suspension was a good idea that means I labeled him as a budding sociopath? Really?

Yes, cause all you agreed to is simply suspending him. No psychiatric help (either voluntary or forced), no talking things over, no nothing. Just dump his ass and offer no help.

And by default as well, you share some blame when he decides to unleash some .45 cal fury at his school. All because you didn't bother to suggest helping him. All you did was support a tactic that either wakes him up, or causes him to go off the deep end.

tyger i'm going to guess that the deathnote wiki, the DEATH NOTE - U.S. Official Anime Site, and the other 6 sites before that one didn't give them enough info to go on.

very well i will answer.

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Now I have a question for all of you, are you going to take any responsibility on to yourself if this guy now goes out and does something violent because he has been labeled by all of you as a budding sociopath, because if he does the reason for whatever he does will most certainly lead right back to this current mess.

and i shall do so with a question of my own. when did we ever label him as a budding sociopath? i for one said that i felt that the school had taken apropriate action given the circumstances surrounding the incident. secondly, why in the hell would i need to take resposibility? i'm in colorado, and he is in virginia. i have no say into what he does, so i cannot take responsibility if he does something violent. i mearly say that the school should run a psychoanalysis to see if he has any budding problems just in case.

and about the letters thing, you never answered my questions, if you knew the answers to some of the more personal ones. and i never said they should just kick him out. apropriate actions given the circumstances of the years 2006-2007, perhaps there needed to be a stricter reaction to a joke like this that involves threats, even among friends.

the school should keep him suspended untill an investigation into his mental health is done, which if it really was a joke shouldn't take that long.