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NEWS: Virginian Teen Suspended over Names in 'Death Note'

Both of which have no place in the educational system. Both of which draw some form of punishment. Where's the problem?

We've all learned what inaction can do an Virginia Tech, when there are lives at stake it's better to react than play the "wait and see" game hope they don't mean it.

Oh come on, that's more "knee-jerk reactionary crap" than anything anyone has mentioned previously. People have the right to react suspiciously and cautiously given what goes on in schools these days. We've all learned what inaction can do an Virginia Tech, when there are lives at stake it's better to react than play the "wait and see" game hope they don't mean it.

Keonyn wrote:

Oh come on, that's more "knee-jerk reactionary crap" than anything anyone has mentioned previously. People have the right to react suspiciously and cautiously given what goes on in schools these days. We've all learned what inaction can do an Virginia Tech, when there are lives at stake it's better to react than play the "wait and see" game hope they don't mean it.

And therein lies your faulty thinking. You think this is new. But really school violence has been going on for ages.

How does writing a fictitious hit list result in suspension?

At the very least, counsellings and mental testings should be in order. Plus any further investigations (did he buy weaponry; is there evidence of bullying, etc.) should also be done to see if a threat is credible enough or not.

Keonyn wrote:

We've all learned what inaction can do an Virginia Tech, when there are lives at stake it's better to react than play the "wait and see" game hope they don't mean it.

Steak < Stake.

So basically you're saying:
1. The kid innocently writes people's names down.
2. The kid could come in the next day and kill people on the list.
3. The teachers must act in accordance with a worse-case scenario based on that.

How about this:
1. LydiaDianne has a promiscuous avatar depicting a young girl wearing a sailor costume (ie Sailor Moon).
2. LydiaDianne could be a sexual predator based on using that avatar.
3. We should inform the authorities we have a sexual predator on the boards because I base my judgements on my opinions.

How does writing a fictitious hit list result in suspension?

First of all, it's not like it was saying Papa Smurf is going to die at 3 o'clock. He had his classmates written down. Actual people. Which brings it clearly out of the realm of fiction and into the realm of plausible reality. Secondly, fictitious or not, this kind of crap doesn't belong in the schools to begin with. Anything that is a disruption to the curriculum is a suspendible offense.

Being suspended and out of the classroom is perfectly legitimate and will give them plenty of time to determine whether or not this is a credible threat or not.

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Which brings me to two words people like you hate. Responsibility and accountability. You have every right to say what you want, but if you do so irresponsibly, you have the responsibility to be accountable for those words.

I don't think you should be allowed to correct anyone, for anything, ever.

Hon'ya-chan wrote:

How does writing a fictitious hit list result in suspension?

Who says it was fictional? See your problem, and others like you, is that you all assume the thing was fictional. For all we know he could damn well be serious about this shit. The odds are he isn't but how do we know? I bet back in the day if the Columbine kids made a death note people would be saying just what you are. And look how that would have turned out. It's a stupid act and in this day and age it's not a joke anymore. This shit might have been funny 10 years ago but the jokes over now. It's not funny and should be taken seriously given the setting in this instance. And you also seem to fail to understand that it's the teacher's job to notify the administrators about such behavior, and it's just a bloody suspension. Hell it's basically a 2-3 day vacation for this kid so I highly doubt he gives a rat's ass himself.

Even though it's was idiotic to bring a fake Death Note to school. I think the school kinda overracted they could have at least let him off the hook with a warning. Unless they uncovered a plot that he was actually going to kill the people he written in the Death Note suspension wasn't the right action to take.

britannicamoore wrote:

I think this whole thing is a crazy over-reaction. Do they apply the same consequeces to those who write the names down of fellow stutdents in a regular note book? Am I the only one who owns a deathnote to write down my assignments? Important date, etc?

If he were using it as a school assignment book, there wouldn't be an issue. I thought the issue was writing down names & manner of death making it appear more of a hitlist than a school notebook. This runs over into the whole school shooter/bomber side.

Was this kid planning anything? It sounds as though it was a joke, but if he were planning something, don't you think he'd have a cover story, something like "It's a joke"? And if they let him off, woldn;t they have to let everyone off? & what if the next kid they let off really is planning something.

Is it over-reaction? Isn't most everything prefaced with "In the name of fairness"? A kid, fully aware of his school's zero Tolerance policy, brings a toy gun to school. If the school has thought to address the issue, maybe they've already dismissed toy guns & knives, though most of the schools I know of would retain their right to blanket expel kids thumbing their noses at the school's authority. To be fair=we don't have to think-it's a slam dunk action. Everyone is treated the same even if they are guilty of doing less. Cookie-cutter reactions so they don't have to deal with claims of discrimination or favoritism

First of all, it's not like it was saying Papa Smurf is going to die at 3 o'clock. He had his classmates written down. Actual people. Which brings it clearly out of the realm of fiction and into the realm of plausible reality. Secondly, fictitious or not, this kind of crap doesn't belong in the schools to begin with. Anything that is a disruption to the curriculum is a suspendible offense.

Dargonxtc wrote:

First of all, it's not like it was saying Papa Smurf is going to die at 3 o'clock. He had his classmates written down. Actual people. Which brings it clearly out of the realm of fiction and into the realm of plausible reality. Secondly, fictitious or not, this kind of crap doesn't belong in the schools to begin with. Anything that is a disruption to the curriculum is a suspendible offense.

This sounds exactly like the people who ran my high school's district. Over there you'd get sent home for wearing bright mismatching clothes, having facial hair, and if you brought anything electronic other than a watch or calculator you'd get it confiscated, and might be able to get it back at the end of the school year, key word might.

They also once suspended a boy for saying the word "Gun" just because it happened to be a day after shootings down at a SoCal school. Some things are plausible, but merely saying the word gun?

Granted, children really have no rights regarding liberty, but if people keep opressing them thinking it'll help by providing the ideal work environment, then you're just going to end up with some heavily warped youths. The most healthy people I knew come out of that high school were the trouble-makers who routinely found ways to get around or break the rules without getting caught.

Instead of the school sweeping this under the rug with a suspension. Like a previous poster have said they could have gave this person counseling before taking such action. To figure out is this was a mental problem that was develop while watching Death Note or a joke. They didn't solve anything without figuring out if this was a joke or not. Because his condition could have worsen if he had a mental condition with this knee jerk suspension.