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NEWS: Bookstore Moves Manga Section after Parent's Complaint


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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:07 am Reply with quote
x__X why do my favorite manga keep getting targeted?!?!?!?!?

First Peach Girl, then Death Note, now this....

*sigh.* Yes, reading the news article...once again, they totally pissed me off with this bs.


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Books-a-Million has decided to relocate an adult-oriented comic book that at least one parent found in the children's section.


- She found 1 manga, that could've been left there by some other reader. Things get misplaced everywhere, I used to work at a bookstore as well, and I found plenty of crap placed where it's not supposed to be. Sometimes it is hard to monitor all customers, but employees try the best they can. Secondly, wtf...it's not like full blown porn, it's rater OT for "Older Teen."

I thought manga would also be placed with American comics/graphic novels as well, though. The Borders I used to work with had manga on one side, and kids books all on the opposite side of the building. Neither was close. I'm glad for that.


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And on the back cover, there's a description of the book. It's the story of a young girl who goes online in search of a mysterious nightly lover. The next day, she gets her wish when a naked guy shows up at her door wanting to be her boyfriend.


>.>; What....?
I don't know what description they got out of the series, but I know that is NOT how it was worded. Gotta love media BS. I own the f*cking book. xD




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"I expected that they would be in an adult bookstore or in a mature area of one of these book stores," says McWaters. But not in the Kids-A-Million section. McWaters questioned the store manager about the book. At the time, he told her they'd look at relocating the book.


I don't really know how Books-A-Million works with their manga pile, but when I used to work at Borders, The graphic novels do have a sign on every shelf, explaining that not all content will be appropriate for younger readers. True, there are some manga that is at their age level (Kingdom Hearts, Digi Charat), but most will be for teens and up.

I understand her concern and all about the book, but she is one of those types of people who just don't know any better. That's how I can best put it. Ignorance at its best. It's better for her NOT to go to the store regardless; It'll save manga fans a lot of grief. But you know, I really hate that manga is getting a really negative view. .__.

Damn you, conservative America.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:02 am Reply with quote
Wow. As bad as that story is, some other comments are bad too. Some of these book stores have no clue what they're stocking. A friend just started working at a Barnes and Noble. Thankfully they seem to be pretty good. Then again, this is in Boston and that's a very nerdy and literature oriented area. So that helps too.

tygerchickchibi wrote:
x__X why do my favorite manga keep getting targeted?!?!?!?!?

First Peach Girl, then Death Note, now this....

*sigh.* Yes, reading the news article...once again, they totally pissed me off with this bs.


That's because 'they' are out to get your specifically. Clearly. These incidents about Death Note and now this was are totally targeted directly at you. 'They' are watching. Rolling Eyes
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bleuster



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:41 am Reply with quote
I like the Borders in my area has the kid section set up.
Two long shelves forming a neat "room" at the back corner of the store with a tiny couch and bean-bag forming a two-way entrance.

Really, you can't prevent complaints in any form, especially in a situation like this.
This reminds me of the library near my city that had someone complain about a few nude pages in a "manga history" book, then having the book moved away from the art studies section or such.

It would be nice if there was a way to educate people about the different aspects of manga, if only to not let drag issues like this any further.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote
The Xenos wrote:

That's because 'they' are out to get your specifically. Clearly. These incidents about Death Note and now this was are totally targeted directly at you. 'They' are watching. Rolling Eyes


Eh...?

When you're writing, be careful how you put things.

o_o and I know, they know my tastes, so they're after my stuff!!! It's a f*cking conspiracy!

>.>; ........

Let me just say...I don't know if you're just trying to be an asshole, or what. I'm saying that it's a funny coincidence, nothing more. Sarcasm through text doesn't seem to emit a person's reply so well sometimes.
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JLightstar



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:08 am Reply with quote
Waldenbooks where I lived used to keep the manga section next to the checkout line but has long since placed it next to sci-fi. It could be a number of reasons why Absolute was placed in children section but not intentionally. I think this woman overreacted. Her concern was reasonable but to call it "porn" is really too much. Of course, my public library on the other hand has been a bit careless. I actually found a copy of La Esperança next to Fruits basket ( although I don't think it's really porny) while they had to actually rip pages out of Great teacher Onizuka because of content. A friend of mine who works in a library told me the only shonen ai titles that public libraries would carry is Gravitation and Fake. Of course, I also found a copy of the Fake OVA along with Yami no Matsuei in the dvd section and I live in a very christian town. Makes me giggle when I know tax payers paid for it...
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KrisEllieOphi



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:44 am Reply with quote
It's a common misconception that manga and anime are for "kids" because they're "cartoons." However we all know that even stuff geared "for kids" can be a little racy sometimes, and that a lot of the stuff America tries to market to kids isn't really for kids at all.

That being said..... The article does say:
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....is relocating its manga section after a parent complained about finding an explicit manga volume in the store's children's section nearby.

That seems to indicate that the book was simply out of place. In that case...HUGE over reaction on her part. In my experience employees usually "make the rounds" to look for things like that. It's likely it just hadn't made it back to its shelf yet. Still, the manga section shouldn't have been near the children's section; but they did move it, so the problem should be solved.

At my local Barnes and Noble, the manga is a the back of the store (or front, depending on where you enter; it faces the mall hallway as opposed to the parking lot entrance) next to the sci-fi fantasy section, with the games (like D&D) and comic books. The children's section is on the opposite side of the store; it's actually sort of segregated off in the corner.

I also agree that corporate doesn't pay attention sometimes. A comic store I used to work at is very conservative. There are some things they won't sell (like Lost Girls), but they have a ton of those panty showing, half naked anime figures all over the place. I don't know if they pay attention to what they're ordering sometimes.

If anyone read Marvel's Ultimates 3 #1 last week, it opens up with the characters watching a fairly graphic sex tape of two of the main characters. That's far worse than what you usually see in Absolute Boyfriend, and it's on the bottom shelf available to anyone who wants it.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quote
You know, I find it quite humorous that we're reacting to some overbearing mother being a screaming idiot by becoming a bunch of screaming idiots ourselves.

It must be a disease or something. Yeah, that's it... this poor mother is patient zero of an outbreak of Stupiditis that's spread to the internet. Anime smile

Serious business, people. On the internet, Stupiditis spreads at 400% the rate of real life. We may have to quarentine these boards...
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Veoryn87



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
I'm a bit confused. Was this manga there because that's where an employee at the store put it, or was it just a single volume that may have been left there accidentally (or intentionally) by a customer?
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ANBUx3



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:28 pm Reply with quote
Heh, I found the Slayers novels in the children's section at my Books-A-Million. They also put mature-rated manga with ero-fiction novels in a separate part of the store, but they also stick random volumes of Prince of Tennis and Kingdom Hearts alongside these mature titles.
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mlund



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:34 pm Reply with quote
Ah yes, quality journalism. Who cares about pesky things like the facts of the matter - key piece in this point being whether the book was stocked as inventory or merely misplaced by a patron. All that really matters to get traffic / ratings is putting forth the narrative of an angry parent outraged at indecent material in a bookstore getting a company to change its policy. They get to push the most buttons possible ("porn," "save the children," "stupid parents," "evil corporations," and "censorship") to agitate audiences based on their individual hot-spots and biases by being vague and uninformative when it comes to key facts.

These are the fruits of half a century of "progress" in journalism, ladies and gentlemen.

- Marty Lund
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:47 pm Reply with quote
Uh oh. The Right Wing Neo-Conservatives are looking more into this.
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Celes



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:18 pm Reply with quote
JLightstar wrote:
Waldenbooks where I lived used to keep the manga section next to the checkout line but has long since placed it next to sci-fi. It could be a number of reasons why Absolute was placed in children section but not intentionally. I think this woman overreacted. Her concern was reasonable but to call it "porn" is really too much. Of course, my public library on the other hand has been a bit careless. I actually found a copy of La Esperança next to Fruits basket ( although I don't think it's really porny) while they had to actually rip pages out of Great teacher Onizuka because of content. A friend of mine who works in a library told me the only shonen ai titles that public libraries would carry is Gravitation and Fake. Of course, I also found a copy of the Fake OVA along with Yami no Matsuei in the dvd section and I live in a very christian town. Makes me giggle when I know tax payers paid for it...


Just to comment, I'm not sure if your friend was just referring to her/his library or public libraries in general, because if she/he was speaking generally, they are wrong. Libraries purchase materials based on whatever the children's/young adult/adult librarians pick out to be purchased. It is at their sole discretion. Most libraries suscribe to the library bill of rights which has guidelines that have to do with not censoring materials, etc. And yes, I am a librarian.

My library, for example, has several of those yaoi titles that are published by Blu (I think that is the imprint), such as Antique Bakery, etc. They also have a manga called Wild Rock, and I don't know if anyone here has ever read that, but it is super, super explicit.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:24 pm Reply with quote
mlund wrote:

These are the fruits of half a century of "progress" in journalism, ladies and gentlemen.

- Marty Lund


Are you kidding? If anything, the level of this kind of muckraking went DOWN over the 20th century. Back in the day, William Randolph Hearst was able to drum up a WAR because he wanted to sell papers.
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Curtis W.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:25 pm Reply with quote
Seems a little ridiculous, your kids are going to learn about that stuff one way or the other might as well happen in a place like that with the parent around to answer the kids questions about it. But then ignorant people would act exactly like that mother and so many others in this sexually repressed country nowadays.

oh well...
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:09 pm Reply with quote
Hybridchild wrote:
What i find really sad about this story is that there are still towns without bookstores Neutral


No kidding. O.o; What sort of town doesn't have a bookstore?!

Veoryn87 wrote:
I'm a bit confused. Was this manga there because that's where an employee at the store put it, or was it just a single volume that may have been left there accidentally (or intentionally) by a customer?


To me it's pretty obvious that there was an entire section of manga either in the section itself or nearby. I doubt if a customer misplaced it that Books-A-Million would have to have corporate permission to get it moved. If that's the case, I can't imagine how they ever get ANYTHING done.

Personally, I'm not so sure that this *isn't* something to be mad a big deal out of. Yeah, Absolute Boyfriend isn't porn, but it's still pretty dirty to be anywhere near a kid's section. My borders keeps all the graphic novels and manga in a separate section near the adult Sci-Fi/Fantasy books, and far away from the kid's section. I think that's the best idea--there's some manga that I adore, but would never want a kid reading.

If it was just a misplaced book, I'd agree that it's an overreaction, but it really sounds like it was the entire manga section sitting right in the kid's area which...might have been exaggerated by the news station, but even being near it is sort of a stupid idea. Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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