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NEWS: Manga Created to Help Find Japanese Student's Killer


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Hon'ya-chan



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:17 pm Reply with quote
Egan Loo wrote:
Banshou wrote:
Do you think an English translation will ever appear?


Matt Thorn, who used to translate many manga titles in the 1990s for Viz, is actually an associate professor at the Faculty of Manga that created this manga. Still, he and the rest of the faculty may have to weigh whether the time and effort needed to translate the manga into English might be spent spreading the word in Japanese instead; potential leads eleven months after the incident might more likely come from native speakers. It's a tough call.


What about selling them as fundraisers for a Victims Fund?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:29 pm Reply with quote
Aki Ameko wrote:
I'd like to know more about the details of the crime... Was it a mugging/robbery or just a random murder? Was it just someone who hated him? At this point I can't even see the motive behind such an attack...


The Japan Times newspaper published a good summary of the incident two days afterward, although more details emerged later. His personal effects were not stolen, so the motive for the incident is still unknown. The police are looking for a male in his 20s, 175 centimeters (5 feet, 9 inches) tall of medium build and with medium-length hair over his ears, that was seen dressed all in black at the scene.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:35 pm Reply with quote
This reminds me of that one boy who was murdered by his sister's ex-boyfriend, and the police found out how by checking his last blog entry before the murder. Damn shame.
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One wing angle



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:06 pm Reply with quote
thats sad but Im happy that someone is careing enough to do that for him. hope it works.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:09 am Reply with quote
i always hate news like this. murder is the worst. i hope this works
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:22 am Reply with quote
Aww thats so sad. He was an aspiring manga artist. Of course the pamphlet is functional, but it is also a tribute to his life just by being a manga. Even if they didn't touch base on his life, which they did.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:43 pm Reply with quote
I'm not a detective myself, but...

The fact that nothing was stolen indicates that this probably wasn't a crime of profit. A botched mugging where the guy had to get out quick is a possibility, of course. But I heard somewhere that if you're dealing with stab wounds numbering in double digits, what you have is an outburst of rage. Which implies that the guy either knew him, or wasn't in his right mind. (Maybe insane, or possibly high.)

He was stabbed in the chest AND the back- from both sides, in other words. So there was either a second assailant, or a struggle of some kind where they got turned around. Well, not necessarily- I suppose the guy could have come up behind him, stabbed him a few times, then turned him around to stab him from the front. Both that and the "second assailant" theory suggest someone wanted this guy specifically dead.

You know, if this were fiction (which it isn't, I know), the twist near the end would be that he DID know who killed him, but for whatever reasons didn't want to get the guy in trouble.

Argh, here I am, acting like one of those wannabe-L's Anime smile;;;;;;;;
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One wing angle



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:40 pm Reply with quote
I think this manga is aimed more to get people who might have any info to come forward more so than it is to get someone else to solve the case.

I don't know much about it but what I do know is that the manga shows parts of his life and what not, their for I think its aimed at pulling at peoples heart strings as a way to get people to come forward with possible information.

I belive the detils of his murder where added in hopes that someone outside the police would be able to solve the crime, but added more so as to give poeple insite as to how he suffered in his last moments, compared to the other happy moments that where shown in the manga.

but thats just me...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:02 am Reply with quote
Egan Loo wrote:
Still, he and the rest of the faculty may have to weigh whether the time and effort needed to translate the manga into English might be spent spreading the word in Japanese instead; potential leads eleven months after the incident might more likely come from native speakers. It's a tough call.

They could just post scans on the internet... it'd be translated into English faster than they could say "copyright infringement".
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:28 am Reply with quote
Egan Loo wrote:
Aki Ameko wrote:
I'd like to know more about the details of the crime... Was it a mugging/robbery or just a random murder? Was it just someone who hated him? At this point I can't even see the motive behind such an attack...


The Japan Times newspaper published a good summary of the incident two days afterward, although more details emerged later. His personal effects were not stolen, so the motive for the incident is still unknown. The police are looking for a male in his 20s, 175 centimeters (5 feet, 9 inches) tall of medium build and with medium-length hair over his ears, that was seen dressed all in black at the scene.
Just read the latest ANN article. Thanks for offering the info though. =)

Based on what some people have said... If this were an American incident, I'd say being high or drunk was a rather likely scenerio. But this is Japan... From what I know, a case like this is much more rare for them. Even my mom (Who's spent more than a year in Japan) was surprised when I told her about this. "A stabbing in Japan? That's just...odd."

Heh, now this has ME wanting to play L. ^^;
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One wing angle



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:54 pm Reply with quote
BellosTheMighty wrote:


You know, if this were fiction (which it isn't, I know), the twist near the end would be that he DID know who killed him, but for whatever reasons didn't want to get the guy in trouble.


I think theirs something to your comment,

think about it, in your last moments of life are you concerned about your killer or your friends and family? duh friends and family.

reviling his killer might have been trouble for someone close to him.
and the statment "I have know idea who killed me" is a little bold.
it might suggest something.

and the bike the killer also rode, dosent it seam odd? I know bikes are very common in japan but a savage killer on a bike!?

this is just a theory but,
I think the bike is the most important pice of evedence, if! you had an intended target. I think that his murder was not random at all.

the victum rode a bike very common, but the killer also rode a bike,
if the killer was specificly targeting him at that time and place he would not want him to escape. incase something when't wrong, he would also have a bike so the person being targeted would not have an advantage.

the bike also has another pourpose, most people don't think of a killers as a dude on a bike. when you think of a savage killer you think of a big guy in a long coat with a crazy look in his eye. the bike may have also been used as a way of looking less like a killer and more like an everyday person.

and last, after comiting the crime you wouldn't look as much like a suspect if you where riding a bike, like I said befor your basic idea of a kill isn't a dude on a bike. and if you where seen or pursued you could get away quickly.

this all could still be a random crime by a compleat phyco, but theirs something about the guys last words that I just can't place.

the bike and the possible thought behind it, as well as the aquward last statement of the victum might suggest this was not a random killing.

theirs low chance that this thoery is corect, but every logical theory should be looked at.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:25 pm Reply with quote
One wing angle wrote:
and the bike the killer also rode, dosent it seam odd? I know bikes are very common in japan but a savage killer on a bike!?


I don't know, a bike to me seems to be an excellent escape vehicle. Both in large cities in America and in Japan. A bike can both be used immediately at the site of the crime without making noise, as well as go places that cars can't. Which can make a quick getaway via proximity not distance. The added bonus in Japan is that it is so common that no one would pay any notice, nor make any mental note about a bike being ridden or who was on it.

Which is why I think this sort of thing would be perfect for both random or specifically intended murders. For a random murder all he would need to do is scout an area he wanted some to go into, wait for them to be the only ones there, then spring on them. Like a trap.
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One wing angle



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:53 pm Reply with quote
yes the theory works either way.
you do make a point, a bike is so simple that anyone would think of it. the bike is simple and very efective.

it just the oddly placed last words of the victum that support my theory of a planed out murder, and that he knew who his killer was or at least why they killed him.

its a very long shot givin the situation.

do you think this could have been a planed killing and just a random target?
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