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Hon'ya-chan

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:05 am |
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| Amazon just confirmed that they have shipped out my purchase of the My Santa. Seems they're honoring the orders (to a point maybe?) |
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Asako

Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 746 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:04 am |
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| Zac wrote: | Would any of you even remotely care about buying this if it hadn't been yanked?
Were you all such rabid Ken Akamatsu fans who - for whatever reason - decided not to preorder this item or even buy it during the week of its release?
I find it hard to understand why you're so desperate and eager to find and buy it now, when it was available from most every common retail outlet for many days before it was recalled.
Just asking. | Although I know this is a general response to all the attention "My Santa" is getting, I figure I'd answer why I bought it so early (before reading reviews or knowing about the "recall") My boyfriend is into harem anime *sulk* and he absolutely adores Love Hina... I had to get it for him cause I like seeing him smile
| Porcupine wrote: | | Also, I don't think this title was available at most real-life stores. This is what my entire last post was about. It seems (still trying to confirm) that few to no real-life Best Buy stores ever got this product in. And from britannicamoore's post, not all FYE/Suncoast stores may have gotten it either (mine did though and it is still there). If any other real-life stores have this product I'd like to know, because I'd be willing to spend $15~$20 on this, but not $23. | I don't believe Best Buy stores got "My Santa" in. You can usually tell if a store has something by checking availability. ANOTHER way you can check that is if the SKU is more than 7 digits long (usually starting with a "1"). Which is sort of like the signal of it being online only.
As for Suncoast and Sam Goody, I bought mine at Ala Moana during their buy 2 anime get 1 free sale (no box sets I think... can't remember). My purchases were 1 gift for friend, 1 gift for boyfriend and 1 DVD for my collection It turned out well. |
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Porcupine

Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1033
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:52 pm |
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For those 3 copies of "My Santa" did you have to pay $60 or $46?
If it's $46 then that's cheap, about $15 for one anyway with the sale. But like I wrote in another thread, I had some troubles getting that sale to work depending which Suncoast/Sam Goody I was at. One Suncoast store insisted I would have to pay $60 for the 3 copies because they said that the "Buy 2 get 1 free" deal only applies to retail price. |
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kokuryu

Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 906
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:20 pm |
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Woot! My order from Anime Castle came in and I have the PG rated My Santa in hand! I watched it and quite frankly the PG rating is totally correct - nothing I have not seen in a rated PG movie before. The language is like 99% clean and the only nude parts are non-sexual related. I saw more in Logan's Run than I did in this. Zero reason to have it listed as TV-MA.
I think that someone's earlier post that it was pulled for some other reasons is the REAL reason for the recall. Can anyone did into this and find out the real answer? |
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Porcupine

Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1033
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm |
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Maybe you could call me a prude but I think any nudeness, even animated, would automatically qualify the show as PG-13 at minimum. Think about it, if you saw a real movie, and some woman took her shirt off, would that still be rated PG?
As for a hypothetical "secret reason" why this product could have been voluntarily recalled...here's an idea. Maybe they just want to be extra careful since releasing a Santa/Christmasy cartoon during the holiday times could instigate some 6-year old little girls and boys to buy it. Or for parents to get this for their 6-year olds. Then suddenly they see some partially naked women. Even if they don't, it's still totally not what they expected to buy.
Maybe Funimation just re-considered the packaging for this product in general, not just the PG rating, and decided to recall it.
Another idea is that maybe they screwed up the retail price since it is $30 in some places and $20 in others. But I doubt that would justify a recall, they could easily just tell retailers the correct price. |
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Porcupine

Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1033
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:37 pm |
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It's been weeks now and My Santa is still in the local Sam Goody stores. So I guess they decided not to utilize the recall.
This means that, effectively, the title was never recalled in the first place at least as far as real-life stores are concerned. Since Best Buy never got this title in the first place, while Suncoast/Sam Goody didn't recall it, and there are no other major chain retail stores in the USA that sell anime (that I know of). |
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Hon'ya-chan

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 905
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:31 pm |
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| Porcupine wrote: | It's been weeks now and My Santa is still in the local Sam Goody stores. So I guess they decided not to utilize the recall.
This means that, effectively, the title was never recalled in the first place at least as far as real-life stores are concerned. Since Best Buy never got this title in the first place, while Suncoast/Sam Goody didn't recall it, and there are no other major chain retail stores in the USA that sell anime (that I know of). |
So in essence, a really clever marketing ploy? |
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britannicamoore
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 2352 Location: Detroit, MI. Or should I say Mt. Pleasant, MI? I live in a hand.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:56 pm |
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| Hon'ya-chan wrote: | | Porcupine wrote: | It's been weeks now and My Santa is still in the local Sam Goody stores. So I guess they decided not to utilize the recall.
This means that, effectively, the title was never recalled in the first place at least as far as real-life stores are concerned. Since Best Buy never got this title in the first place, while Suncoast/Sam Goody didn't recall it, and there are no other major chain retail stores in the USA that sell anime (that I know of). |
So in essence, a really clever marketing ploy? |
Makes sense. Because really, besides the people into that kind of thing who else would buy it at full price besides collectors.
I still want to get it, but my suncoast has no copies. |
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Zac ANN Executive Editor

Joined: 05 Jan 2002 Posts: 4297 Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:05 pm |
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| britannicamoore wrote: |
Makes sense. |
No, no it doesn't. |
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Dargonxtc

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 4152 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:18 pm |
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| Hon'ya-chan wrote: | | So in essence, a really clever marketing ploy? |
Not so much. For that to be the case, then every retailer would have to be in on it for it to be called a ploy. Sorry, FUNimation doesn't have that kind of pull. As of right now, every retailer on DVDpricesearch says they are out of stock. Because some stores ignored/forgot the recall, and you can still find the title can be chalked up to luck and lazy retail management. |
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britannicamoore
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Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 2352 Location: Detroit, MI. Or should I say Mt. Pleasant, MI? I live in a hand.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:25 pm |
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| Zac wrote: | | britannicamoore wrote: |
Makes sense. |
No, no it doesn't. |
I don't follow why it wouldn't be. It doesn't seem like a title that'd sell like hotcakes.
Even what Dargonxtc said, if something is recalled why wouldn't they pull it off the shelf by now? It all seems fishy regardless. |
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Dargonxtc

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 4152 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:42 pm |
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| britannicamoore wrote: | | Even what Dargonxtc said, if something is recalled why wouldn't they pull it off the shelf by now? It all seems fishy regardless. |
Having worked retail (including electronics) in my younger years, I can say that it is a lot more common than you think. And for a ton of various reasons. Pretty much, if it is not a safety recall (e.g. dangeourous toy/ poison food/etc.), then many stores (especially ones with incompetent management) treat recalls as a very low priority event. |
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Zac ANN Executive Editor

Joined: 05 Jan 2002 Posts: 4297 Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:00 pm |
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| britannicamoore wrote: |
I don't follow why it wouldn't be. It doesn't seem like a title that'd sell like hotcakes.
Even what Dargonxtc said, if something is recalled why wouldn't they pull it off the shelf by now? It all seems fishy regardless. |
Because the simplest explanation is usually the right one. Common sense.
Tinfoil hat "they recalled this product and likely cost themselves thousands in order to sell more!" theories make a lot less sense than "they messed up and recalled it". |
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Lemwon

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 61
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:58 pm |
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| Porcupine wrote: |
As for a hypothetical "secret reason" why this product could have been voluntarily recalled...here's an idea. Maybe they just want to be extra careful since releasing a Santa/Christmasy cartoon during the holiday times could instigate some 6-year old little girls and boys to buy it. Or for parents to get this for their 6-year olds. Then suddenly they see some partially naked women. Even if they don't, it's still totally not what they expected to buy.
Maybe Funimation just re-considered the packaging for this product in general, not just the PG rating, and decided to recall it.
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That's why the DVD should have gotten a higher rating. As I've mentioned before, this looks exactly like a child-friendly DVD, but the higher age rating would probably have put that all off. I don't know many parents who would buy anything for their pre-schooler (or slightly older) child with a TV-MA rating. It's quite possible that Funi intended to set an overly-high rating for this DVD to set off parents.
As for the packaging theory, no matter how they presented it, the final product title is still "Itsudatte My SANTA". How does "Santa" not imply "kid-friendly"?
| Porcupine wrote: | | It's been weeks now and My Santa is still in the local Sam Goody stores. So I guess they decided not to utilize the recall. |
Just because a store in your area still has this title you conclude that it's everywhere? I'm not the best person to bring this up since I don't have a Suncoast or Sam Goody store anywhere near me, but I think it's odd you assume because it's in one store, it's in every store. |
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Porcupine

Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1033
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:47 pm |
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That's true, other FYE chain-stores might have shipped the title back. I did not mean to imply that I was absolutely certain that all stores continue to stock this product. But from what I've seen, Suncoast/Sam Goody have been more organized and uniform this past year than they used to be (their prices are even semi-standardized now from store to store), so I do think it's likely that all or most FYE-related stores continue to stock this title.
If I'm wrong, then this is the perfect place for someone to check their local store and speak up. (Note though that just because it is gone doesn't mean it was sent back, it could be someone just bought it).
I think it will be funny if My Santa eventually comes out repackaged with a "WARNING! This title is definitely NOT for children!!" stamped on the cover. Lol. (this is a joke, many hentai titles have this written, haha) |
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