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mufurc Posts: 472 |
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There's a reason why Japanese fansites never feature official artwork, and why Japanese bloggers very rarely use official artwork for icons/etc. Fanart is usually okay (as long as it's clearly stated to be fanart), but usage of copyrighted artwork is usually taken very seriously... well, at least in theory. A Japanese publisher sending a cease and desist letter to an English-language fansite that features copyrighted images is not unprecedented.
Many Japanese use Bittorrent (I dunno about gnutella). But these Japanese networks mostly have stuff in Japanese for Japanese people (and people who understand the language), say, episodes of foreign movies and TV shows with Japanese dub or subs, doujinshi, magazines and anthologies, novels, "raw" manga and anime, etc. Stuff that would be considered niche on a larger, "international" network. Add to this that those networks are easier to track, it's no wonder that they rather develop their own software and own networks. (See what happened to Winmx.) |
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daxomni Posts: 2422 Location: The morally challenged land of cheap guns and expensive health care. |
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| Excellent news. I can't wait for them to go after Share as well. I have no love for copyright owners who have tried to prevent the accepted purpose and practice of fair use and public domain, but neither do I have any love for the folks who ignore copyrights entirely. In the case of Share, copyrighted works aren't even the worst things on there. The sooner they bring it down the better. | ||||
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| ilikehotaznz Posts: 28 |
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| Fallout2man Posts: 271 Location: San Diego, CA |
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I was just giving some possible examples, but that does make more sense seeing as most of the resources online right now are geared towards english speakers/readers. In the end though, this really won't do much of anything for them I can bet. It may be happening at a slower pace, but this is a virtual arms race that no company can realistically hope to win short of a totalitarian level of intervention and scrutiny into everyone's connection. |
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| daxomni Posts: 2422 Location: The morally challenged land of cheap guns and expensive health care. |
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As long as the impact is the same I'm all for it. However, going with what little I know about Japan this won't stop most of it until they make running Share a crime, and I seriously doubt they'd ever do that. Still, it's nice to see some movement against the pirates for a change, even if it's just a "show trial" at this stage.
Who is "we" in this context? |
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| ilikehotaznz Posts: 28 |
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I see the logic of your argument, but I do not agree with you. People who are filesharing are using the internet for it's original intent. Moreover, when a recording of video or audio is turned into bits, it is simply turned into a number. What existed first? The number representing the audio/video file, or the file itself? This may sound absolutely crazy, but everything that can be processed and turned into bits existed BEFORE it was actually created. Numbers are infinite and have existed since the beginning of time, and prosecuting people for transmission of numbers simply shows a lack of understanding of the technologies used. "Is it a good thing or a bad thing that it is becoming harder, maybe impossible to encapsulate information in discrete units and sell them. The simplistic answer-- the answer you get from hollywood and the recording industry is: "It's a disaster!" -Yochai Benkler, Yale Law School. I will only close by saying that I will not argue with you, and only state that the smartest people analyizing the situation agree that what the recording industry, the movie industry, and the governments are doing to stop digital hyperdistribution of copyrighted content is clearly not working. |
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| Temuthril Posts: 11 |
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| Perfect Dark is the successor to Share and Winny, in case anyone was wondering. | ||||
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CCSYueh Posts: 1913 Location: San Diego, CA |
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How about start of taxpayer rant? According to the US Census Bureau's website, the 2000 census has 281,421,906 people residing in the United States. Why the HELL should I, who have never, ever downloaded an episode (hate YouTube. Never go) pay taxes for your habit I totally disagree with? 15 million people download? WHOO HOO!! You're a minority. You pay for your own fricken habit- a buck or 4 per download, money distributed back to the artists, how's that? My home state has more than twice as many residents as you claim download (33,871,648). This is one of the things that really burns me. Downloaders think they're the majority & they aren't. There are lots of people who, for whatever reasons (internet connection or lack there of, time, interest) have no interest whatsoever in downloading episodes of tv shows or movies. |
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| ilikehotaznz Posts: 28 |
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Because this has very little to do with downloading. The business model of television in particular is failing on many levels. People are skipping ads with their tivos, DVR's, PVR's, etc. The age of the 30-second ad is coming to an end (it has been for a while), and taxation will fund the future of entertainment. |
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| samuelp Posts: 788 Location: Tokyo, Japan |
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SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Well, actually it's still pretty useless right now. And I'm well aware that share has been compromised. But there's no evidence that law enforcement knows that or has any desire to use that. And anyway, I only download stuff from share, not upload, which is actually perfectly legal in the country I currently live in  . (for now, anyway). |
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KyuuA4 Posts: 1158 Location: America, where anime and manga can be made |
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It's the Napster case all over again. Well, lemme know when someone's grandma gets busted.  |
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| mufurc Posts: 472 |
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Actually, if you use Share you probably upload, too, even if your upload folder is empty. Others download bits and pieces of stuff from your cache folder. Well, unless you paid special attention to your filters. |
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| samuelp Posts: 788 Location: Tokyo, Japan |
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I'm pretty sure that the people that have been prosecuted have been identified as the _original_ uploaders. The way share works, not only do you upload anything in your cache directory, you also constantly download and upload bits and pieces of files in a "diffuse" manner, as part of how the p2p network works. I'm not sure exactly how the Japanese copyright law is written, but at least so far it has only ever been applied to people who have been the original uploaders to the network, i.e. the people who scanned or captured the content themselves and uploaded it. |
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Batman3777 Posts: 159 Location: Down the Shore, NJ |
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| First off, the internet was originally designed to interlink the various United States military departments and divisions to provide fast and free data access across their domains, allowing better CnC flow, and also allowing NASA to actually have some way to process all of its data from various observations. The internet was not intended to distribute pirated copies of someone's copyrighted material.
Second, Why should someone's hard work end up in the public domain? Now who is being a communist? There is NOTHING more communist than saying someone's intellectual property should go to the people for the "greater good" or whatever your justification is for such stupidity. Another communist idea? Making people pay taxes for services they don't need or want! I don't download! I can wait for it to be dubbed and put on to DVDs. I don't download! I don't expect to get someone's hard work for free! I will not pay for someone to be able to download anime to their computers, legal or not. I have no use for that in either case, so if you want to download, YOU PAY FOR IT. Copyrights and Patents and the like should last at least as long as the lifetime of the person who holds them. Maybe also plus 10 years or so, to balance out estate losses and such. A person is entitled to earn a decent living from his or her ideas and efforts for as long as he or she may live. By downloading content illegally, you are taking money away from them (royalties). For the very wealthy, like most American entertainers, this may not bother you (it does not bother me, yet I still do not download movies and such), but it is still true, and still illegal. Anime and Manga creators, from what I can tell, are not independently wealthy, and, as we can tell from Geneon and ADV, neither are the companies that distribute content. Pay for what you want. That is capitalism, pure and simple, and capitalism is the driving force behind the world economy. If you don't like capitalism, well, vote communist and good luck with that. And if you can't wait for it to come to the states, tough!!! Stop being such a whining crybaby. Get some perspective on life instead of being a walking fetus. You are violating laws of some kind or another, and don't think you're some kind of hero for doing so. Robin Hood stole for the sake of people's survival. You can live without anime and manga until you have money to purchase it legally. This is exactly what I feared when anime became too popular. |
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Banshou Posts: 20 |
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| What exactly was the virus supposed to do? | ||||
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