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Sonata-san
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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Location: Daydreaming in class...
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| TheVok wrote: | | And that right there would weed out a lot of these wannabe's. |
Their not "wannabe's", they're just misguided by ambitious notions. |
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jqsilver
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:55 am |
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What you should tell all these aspiring anime creators is this:
1) Learn to draw.
2) Develop a style that doesn't look exactly like a generic anime.
3) Come up with a story that's good enough to self-publish, either online or irl. For reference, see the Flight anthologies.
4) Derive enough satisfaction from that to realize that making a Japanese anime is not going to happen.
Or you could do whatever the guys who made Avatar did.
Also, don't make an OEL manga with Tokyopop, unless you're Avril Levigne. Make something truly original and try to get Oni Press to publish it. See Scott Pilgrim. |
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TheVok
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Location: North York, Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:53 pm |
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| Sonata-san wrote: | | TheVok wrote: | | And that right there would weed out a lot of these wannabe's. |
Their not "wannabe's", they're just misguided by ambitious notions. |
That's what a wannabe is: a misguided aspirant, someone who (in this case) wants to be a creator of anime. |
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Hiryu77
Joined: 27 Oct 2007
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Location: Why here,of course.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:42 pm |
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I think if I were to change the ending of an anime, it would have to be Tokko. 2 swipes with the sword to kill the guy? WTF!? Why couldn't he kill him back at his mansion instead of chasing him all the way down to that hole? (Rhetorical question, I know why he didn't do it back there.) But I guess that can be pardoned since I believe the anime got canceled and the staff had to slosh through it. But still, WTF.
I think I would change GunxSword's final fight too. I was expecting something more of a fight. Ending was fine, although it would've be nice to see a little of what happened afterwards. |
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Conan-san
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:46 pm |
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| HyperGatack wrote: | | Conan-san wrote: | I'm amazed no one has callled on Gurren Lagann's end for stuff what needs changed.
Now, before everyone jumps on me, I'm not aiming to change the death of Nia. Rather, I aim to nagate the downright downer point of Simon having nothing to show for his strugles and basicly being a hobo .
Maybe I don't get the hyper elusive meening to Lagann but I was under the impression of it being a super robot show and most of them arn't exactly thoughtbird training. |
But, Simon did did all he could and should do. Thats why he gave the core drill to Gimmy, and wandered off to be the greatest hobo ever, beating out even Steam Train Maurie. He would have been so manly, and awesome, that he would have KILLED THE UNIVERSE. I mean, you saw what he and Viral did to those Mugens. They blew them up by being AWESOME at them.
Besides, he seemed happy, and to be honest, if you save the world\ ENTIRE UNIVERSE, you can live any way you damn well please. |
I know. To quote Akito, "The logical side of me knows that but..." and again, thoughtbird training, It just flys in the face of everything that has happened up to that point.
Still, there's always the SRW storylines that will enventably fix both the first problem and the Nia death issue and probably use the a well timed G-Stone x Spiral Power attack to ensure the events of Prince Of Darkness never happened.
Actauly, whilst we're on the subjects of Changing endings, Nadeisco, Prince of Darkness is retconed and Akito and Yurika's death is just them dissapering into the stars, much like the end of Macross. |
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Sonata-san
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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Location: Daydreaming in class...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:23 pm |
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| TheVok wrote: | | That's what a wannabe is: a misguided aspirant, someone who (in this case) wants to be a creator of anime. |
Considering you live in a different country than me, I can only assume that's how you come to know what a wannabe is. Besides, I have no interest in debating over something small as this and I'm sure you feel the same way. |
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Chesis
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:54 pm |
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I think everyone goes through the delusions of grandeur phase. Some just get over it faster than others.
But it sure is amusing while it lasts.  |
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Battyfree
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:27 pm |
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Those kids which Answerman talked about are truely reflective about the new generation today.
By the looks of it,they hardly think carefully before executing an idea.I mean,there's no place in the world for you if you're simply someone who rips off people's ideas.
If this is the generation that is going to run the world sooner or later,it's really sad. |
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Fiction Alchemist
Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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Location: Florida, USA, North America, Earth, Milky Way, Universe Twelve
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You know, it's strange... I began with aspirations of writing a script for an anime project. I was convinced that somebody was going to want to adapt my crappy script.
One day, It just hit me (and It kept hitting me!): Nobody is going to want to develop an anime for something just because some guy thinks it would be awesome. That's just stupid. I believed I had a good idea, but so what? Did I seriously think that a meager human like me was master of my own destiny?
So, with my new external locus, I decided to be content with writing just a story. From there, I began to realize that I had great potential and eventually evolved to a novel writer. I wrote a book that I love, and it's inspired by and influenced by anime (not shounen, though).
Now, maybe some day I can adapt the book into an animated series, whether anime or a cartoon that looks like (a much bloodier) Avatar. When the day for that possibility comes, I'll tackle it THEN. For now, I'm content with just getting my book published and making a name for myself as a novelist.
When you run into a wall and realize the truth, don't deny it, but don't give up all-together. Set your standards lower. Those lower standards might not be as low as you think. In fact, they could be beautiful.
In any case, just take things one step at a time. Nobody turns into a butterfly overnight, anyway. |
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Meiaminkbell
Joined: 26 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:06 am |
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| jqsilver wrote: | What you should tell all these aspiring anime creators is this:
1) Learn to draw.
2) Develop a style that doesn't look exactly like a generic anime.
3) Come up with a story that's good enough to self-publish, either online or irl. For reference, see the Flight anthologies.
4) Derive enough satisfaction from that to realize that making a Japanese anime is not going to happen.
Or you could do whatever the guys who made Avatar did.
Also, don't make an OEL manga with Tokyopop, unless you're Avril Levigne. Make something truly original and try to get Oni Press to publish it. See Scott Pilgrim. |
I agree with everything except for 1 (and 4, but that's for personal satisfaction  ).
Several famous, or more popular manga/anime have been created (I say created as in illustrated/written) by two or more people. the Shakugan no Shana manga was written by Yashichiro Takahashi, Ayato Sasakura was the artist and Noizi Ito did the character designs. Granted, the anime is much more popular than the manga for various reasons. But my favorite reference is Death Note, written by Tsugumi Ohba and illustrated by Takeshi Obata. Fantastic story and beautiful designs, done by two different people.
I believe the writer/storyteller should help out the illustrator wherever he can, be it help with shading and inking or actually drawing rough sketches on canvas of what he is particularly interested in for a certain page or panel of the manga. I can't draw worth crap but I can draw straight lines and pinpoint whereabouts I want characters, speech, background details, etc,. But you have to be dedicated, I mean REALLY dedicated if you want to create an honest-to-goodness Japanese manga/anime. I think that's where most people fall, and I say "Good luck" and "God Speed" to those who have the ambition and talent to do such. |
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billyarnie
Joined: 03 Dec 2007
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:19 pm |
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| Fiction Alchemist wrote: | You know, it's strange... I began with aspirations of writing a script for an anime project. I was convinced that somebody was going to want to adapt my crappy script.
In any case, just take things one step at a time. Nobody turns into a butterfly overnight, anyway. |
Good point. Set goals & if you want to set them high, go for it. Realize, though, the higher goal may be reached by lower, smaller & easily reachable goals. What's the easier way to get to the roof of a building: Jump from the ground, or climb up via a ladder? |
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