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NEWS: ADV Films Reportedly Selects Blu-ray Disc Format


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Chiaki777



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:11 pm Reply with quote
Well, I give up. Blu-ray isn't my choice, but I guess there's not much choice in the matter.
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Celes



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:11 pm Reply with quote
I'm not a big DVD buyer except when it comes to anime, so I am pleased as punch that another anime studio will be putting out titles in Blu-Ray so I can watch them on my PS3. I got one for graduation and I've only used it to play some PS2 games, but I'm glad that I will have a player for the newer formats that are coming out so I can try them. I was so behind on the DVD revolution that the bandwagon knocked me off the cart and then lapped me a few times...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:41 pm Reply with quote
Chiaki777 wrote:
Well, I give up. Blu-ray isn't my choice, but I guess there's not much choice in the matter.


You do know that HD disks (both Blu-Ray and HD DVD) accounted for less than 1% of the disks sold last year, don't you? I won't pay $400 just so I can have the ability to watch Paprika in HD, and even though I bought an HD DVD player that doesn't mean I'm going to start ignoring DVDs from now on. We're still in the infancy of HD and while for the next two years it seems Blu-Ray will have a lock on the HD market thanks to Sony's studio as well as the deals they made with Fox and Warner, DVD is still the media that's dominating the market and they'll continue to do so for the next few years.

I promised myself I wouldn't be an early adopter but when the Warner/Blu-Ray deal happened and Toshiba dropped their HD DVD player prices, I bought a Toshiba HD-A3 primarily for its upscaling abilities. HD DVDs look great, and the player breathes new life into DVDs through upscaling. If the HD DVD group can get me good content at reasonable prices then that's good; I'll buy HD DVDs. If not, I'll buy DVDs. I'm fairly certain that I won't see a Blu-Ray player at $150 until 2009 at the earliest, so for me it wasn't Blu-Ray vs. HD DVD, it was HD DVD vs. waiting a year or more.

Just a point for those who intend to get a Blu-Ray player; you might want to make sure the '5 free movies' deal is still on first; it expired today and there's been no mention of a renewal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not renewed due to Blu-Ray's recent success.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:58 pm Reply with quote
This makes me sad.

I'm kind of hopign other compaines don't turn this way so quickly, because I won't have anything that can play a Blu-ray disc for more than 5 years. (Kingdom Hearts 3 on PS3?) Unless we break 5+ dvd players in our home it ain't flying.

I understand stuff gets better, people find new ideas. But for this case I'd rather be behinnd.

Plus, the idea of my disc prices going up- for someone who doesn't all that much care of quality- is making my stomach twirl


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Kagemusha



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:01 pm Reply with quote
Like everyone else on here the only real reason why I'm interested in this news is that it seems to offer some explanation to the recent scare. I guess I'll eventually be interested in Blu-ray since the PS3 is bound to get some exclusives that are actually good.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:34 pm Reply with quote
Zoe wrote:
MeggieMay wrote:
(and currently have no plans to buy one - dealing with the upcoming TV change over that's coming up in Feb 2009 takes precedence over Blu Ray at this point in time).


Are you aware of the Coupon Program? It really doesn't seem like it will be a big deal.


Well I got a laugh out loud at that site. According to the locater no one is selling converter boxes with in a 50 miles radius of where I live. Which actually the truth! The coupon doesn't do much good if you can't buy them to being with. Plus how much are they going to be? According to the FAQ on the site

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1. How much do I have to pay for a TV converter box?

When TV converter boxes are available, retail stores will set the price. TV converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70. The Federal Government permits each U.S. household up to two $40 coupons to help pay for the cost of the converter box. After applying the coupon, participating retailers will charge consumers the remaining balance of between $10 and $30.


Not exactly cheap, seeing we have four TV's in the house that need converters (living room, kitchen, my room and possibly the set out in my dad's shop). The fifth TV (dad's bedroom) is a HDTV but it doesn't receive DTV signals because our cable isn't upgraded to the digital package yet (my dad "killed" his TV set two days before Xmas and I replaced it for him with a HDTV just to make sure we have at least one TV that will work next year (plus he loves it! So it was worth the extra expense Smile ).

The sad fact is where I live if you have TV now you use cable or you get two channels, maybe three. Seeing the digital towers are farther away than the current analog ones, I'm a tad worried about trying to go the rabbit ears route to begin with (BTW, until the 2000s, I didn't even realize rabbit ears could work with analog. I've never lived anywhere that you didn't have to have cable to get watchable TV in my life). I do need to get a antenna for my dad's TV to see what we might be getting over the air but I don't think all of our local channels are broadcasting in DTV yet anyway.

So this isn't a cheap or easy change over for my family. While the coupons will help when we get around to getting some converters (which will be closer to when I find someone selling the converter boxes to begin with), it isn't going to be "easy as pie" or "cheap" to convert the TVs.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:03 pm Reply with quote
MeggieMay wrote:
Zoe wrote:
MeggieMay wrote:
(and currently have no plans to buy one - dealing with the upcoming TV change over that's coming up in Feb 2009 takes precedence over Blu Ray at this point in time).


Are you aware of the Coupon Program? It really doesn't seem like it will be a big deal.


Well I got a laugh out loud at that site. According to the locater no one is selling converter boxes with in a 50 miles radius of where I live. Which actually the truth! The coupon doesn't do much good if you can't buy them to being with. Plus how much are they going to be? According to the FAQ on the site

Quote:
1. How much do I have to pay for a TV converter box?

When TV converter boxes are available, retail stores will set the price. TV converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70. The Federal Government permits each U.S. household up to two $40 coupons to help pay for the cost of the converter box. After applying the coupon, participating retailers will charge consumers the remaining balance of between $10 and $30.


Not exactly cheap, seeing we have four TV's in the house that need converters (living room, kitchen, my room and possibly the set out in my dad's shop). The fifth TV (dad's bedroom) is a HDTV but it doesn't receive DTV signals because our cable isn't upgraded to the digital package yet (my dad "killed" his TV set two days before Xmas and I replaced it for him with a HDTV just to make sure we have at least one TV that will work next year (plus he loves it! So it was worth the extra expense Smile ).

The sad fact is where I live if you have TV now you use cable or you get two channels, maybe three. Seeing the digital towers are farther away than the current analog ones, I'm a tad worried about trying to go the rabbit ears route to begin with (BTW, until the 2000s, I didn't even realize rabbit ears could work with analog. I've never lived anywhere that you didn't have to have cable to get watchable TV in my life). I do need to get a antenna for my dad's TV to see what we might be getting over the air but I don't think all of our local channels are broadcasting in DTV yet anyway.

So this isn't a cheap or easy change over for my family. While the coupons will help when we get around to getting some converters (which will be closer to when I find someone selling the converter boxes to begin with), it isn't going to be "easy as pie" or "cheap" to convert the TVs.


I'm sorry. I'm confused. Do all of your TVs have cable or Rabbit ears? Only those with rabbit ears need to get a conversion box.

Quote from that site:

"A TV connected to cable, satellite or other pay TV service does not require a TV converter box from this program."


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Lemwon



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:09 pm Reply with quote
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So, I'm going to assume this means ADV will be selling blu-ray discs in addition to DVD's, rather than instead of. I guess that's obvious, but the statement really didn't say it outright. Good move, but I'm still going to be late to cross over into blu-ray discs, weather anime does it or not.
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Batman3777



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:18 pm Reply with quote
Kuyukly wrote:
Yet another reason to buy a ps3 when I can.

I'm just glad ADV's not biting the dust. \o/



Yup, that's a good reason. Between this news and Darth Vader as a special guest character in the upcoming PS3 edition of Soul Caliber IV, I'm sold! I like Yoda, but... c'mon who doesn't want to use force-choke in duel!

So, I'm wondering though, all those shows that were pulled from ADV's site... are they making preps. to bring those out DVD/BRD combos rather than regular DVDs alone, and therefore have to delay their releases? Am I reaching?

I do think people took that "contingency" ADV letter too seriously. It was pretty obvious that was not intended for public view, at least not yet, from what I've read about it. Why take the letter at face value, but not their response that it was not intended to be published? We all need to take a deep breath and chill, I think.
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:50 pm Reply with quote
The format wars irks me greatly, since neither Blu-Ray nor HD DVDs are significantly better than traditional DVDs, and until somebody can convince me otherwise, I'm not updating my format until they stop making regular DVDs. I have thousands of dollars of DVDs in my anime collection, and I'm still in the process of replacing VHS versions of shows I bought a while back.

I'll be glad, though, if it comes to light that this was ADV's only problem.
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Zoe



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:40 am Reply with quote
Batman3777 wrote:
So, I'm wondering though, all those shows that were pulled from ADV's site... are they making preps. to bring those out DVD/BRD combos rather than regular DVDs alone, and therefore have to delay their releases? Am I reaching?


Were all the pulled titles produced in HD? None of them have been released on BD in Japan from what I can tell.

If that's the case, expect the releases to be delayed quite a bit so any Japanese releases won't fall victim to importers.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:48 am Reply with quote
Zoe wrote:
Batman3777 wrote:
So, I'm wondering though, all those shows that were pulled from ADV's site... are they making preps. to bring those out DVD/BRD combos rather than regular DVDs alone, and therefore have to delay their releases? Am I reaching?


Were all the pulled titles produced in HD? None of them have been released on BD in Japan from what I can tell.

If that's the case, expect the releases to be delayed quite a bit so any Japanese releases won't fall victim to importers.


That could very well be the case when you factor in the "licensing issues" that some people were discussing when ADV started to have troubles. I'm wondering if they won't try for a simultaneous HD release in both Japan and the US for those titles, especially given how popular they seemed to be. But, like I said, I could be reaching.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:26 am Reply with quote
penguintruth wrote:
The format wars irks me greatly, since neither Blu-Ray nor HD DVDs are significantly better than traditional DVDs, and until somebody can convince me otherwise, I'm not updating my format until they stop making regular DVDs. I have thousands of dollars of DVDs in my anime collection, and I'm still in the process of replacing VHS versions of shows I bought a while back.

I'll be glad, though, if it comes to light that this was ADV's only problem.


I understand your frustration, technology has us whipped in a way. There is a bright side though! I don't know what your qualifications for "significantly better" entail, but I can't help but disagree. With the DVD spec. we're limited to a low resolution that's interlaced (something that has precipitated the necessity for fairly sophisticated hardware to display it on progressive displays) and a space hogging video codec, with not a lot of space. At least with Bluray we're getting roughly 6 times the resolution, progressive video, and better codecs. Not to mention that the richness of color is something like twice that of DVD. I could understand if you were using a tube or low-res plasma wherein the difference wouldn't be so apparent, but if you're rocking a 60" SXRD or something then you may just be psychotic. Its not a bad thing...for you anyway haha
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:30 am Reply with quote
Kagemusha wrote:
Like everyone else on here the only real reason why I'm interested in this news is that it seems to offer some explanation to the recent scare. .


Really? An explanation? Where?

Yes, its nice that ADV is planning some BluRay releases and its a nice good piece of news, but it doesn't really explain why they are suddenly having problems with ARM and everything they've licensed in the past couple years is being pulled.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:40 am Reply with quote
Batman3777 wrote:
I'm wondering if they won't try for a simultaneous HD release in both Japan and the US for those titles, especially given how popular they seemed to be. But, like I said, I could be reaching.


If that happens, say hello to at least $60~80 per release :\
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