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scortia



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:25 am Reply with quote
Hurray for World Masterpiece Theater!

Makes me want to pop in my old vhs copies of Romeo's Blue Skies.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:35 am Reply with quote
That dubbed-and-edited-only version of Flanders is another reason I won't miss Geneon. I still don't get why they were too stubborn to put out the original version on dvd, but they thought Law of Ueki would be a hit.
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Greboruri



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:02 am Reply with quote
I recall ages ago that AVP in Hong Kong had released the 1997 movie on DVD with English subtitles. Also Power International Multmedia (PIM) in Taiwan releasd the film as well, with English subtitles (think this disc is out of print). Now, I'm not sure how great these subtitles are. I've bought AVP titles before and some are great like 5cm per Second, and others are lousy like the Kamen Rider 555 movie.

AVP and PIM also released the 1975 TV anime series with English subtitles. Think the PIM version may be out of print. Going by the other masterpiece theatre PIM English subtitled DVD sets I have (Daddy Long Legs and 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother - aka Marco) they're probably just so-so. You get the meaning, it's just a little painful to digest the subs at times.
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luhead



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:12 am Reply with quote
I saw the 1960 live action film a number of years ago, and even with a fake Hollywood happy ending, it was still overwhemingly sad. Anime cry

I'll have to give the anime a pass; I know I'm not woman enough to handle it.
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Dante80



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:30 am Reply with quote
Justin, many thanks for making more known yet another rare gem that Japanimation has given us. Works like "A dog of Flanders" deserve more credit from the fans.

For those that cannot find or purchase the actual product, there is a very good english fansub available.
Thanks again, and salutations from sunny Athens...^^
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LavenderAna



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:41 am Reply with quote
The ending of this movie makes me weep every time I see it. I'm glad that I've held on to Pioneer's VHS sub.
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Randall Miyashiro



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:55 am Reply with quote
Thank you for clarifying the status on this title. I have a short list of out of print titles including Flanders that I regularly check on eBay for, but always found it annoying that the Flanders live action would fill the screen and the anime would be nowhere to be found on DVD. I can now stop wasting my time now that I know that it was a dub only VHS release.

I really hope titles like Flanders, Cobra, The Cockpit, Galaxy Express 999, and Minky Momo will get DVD releases since the rights are just being sat on.

edit: I mean dub only DVD or sub VHS.


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HyugaHinata



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:32 am Reply with quote
Randall Miyashiro wrote:
Thank you for clarifying the status on this title. I have a short list of out of print titles including Flanders that I regularly check on eBay for, but always found it annoying that the Flanders live action would fill the screen and the anime would be nowhere to be found on DVD. I can now stop wasting my time now that I know that it was a dub only VHS release.

I really hope titles like Flanders, Cobra, The Cockpit, Galaxy Express 999, and Minky Momo will get DVD releases since the rights are just being sat on.


Glad you mentioned it. Smile I might translate Dog of Flanders for C1 (seeing as I have the R3 DVDs with sub-sub-subpar English subs) after I finish Perrine.
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:46 am Reply with quote
There is at least one good thing about Pioneer's dubbed VHS—it came with a "special limited edition" CD of the soundtrack. (I had ordered the subbed copy off of Half.com, but the seller sent me the dub instead. He then sent me the sub, but did not reply when I asked about returning the first copy.)

How to tell them apart:

Subbed: catalog number PINA-0001S; UPC 013023054035; in a cardboard slipcase
Dubbed: catalog number PINA-0002D; UPC 013023110236; in an oversized, air-cushioned clamshell

The dubbed version notes in the fine print that it is widescreen, while the sub does not. (I have yet to watch either.)
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saber_kite



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:19 am Reply with quote
Oh man, I remember this. They showed it on local TV where I'm from and I remember waiting for it everyday. When it got to the ending I was so mad because it wasn't a happy one for me. I cried buckets over it. Haha.
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lord-darkseid



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:03 am Reply with quote
Nice review as always. I'll have to track this down. You're probably right about the focus on children in anime, though I do think it's more than just to remind younger audiences about how good they have it. Many of these animators and manga-ka grew up in the shadow of WW2 and the fallout of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, after which they wanted to exorcise the pain they saw and went through. Decades have passed since then and you don't hear about as many similar stories being prevalent as you did when titles like Flanders or Remi were being animated.

Much of the current focus is on other genres and emotional content, be it technical advances, fanservice or martial arts. At some point though I think we'll see a bit of renaissance of post WW2 sentiments in tribute to the old guard animators or just due to stories the new directors have heard from their grandparents. To everything there is a time in artistic works, though children have long been a focus in anime both to enjoy and reflect on; teenagers even more so.
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fuuma_monou



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:17 am Reply with quote
It's been years since I've seen the Tagalog dub of the 1975 series. Never saw the movie. I wonder how viable the WMT series are in the U.S. market. It'd be nice to have an English dub of Daddy Long Legs, for instance.
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chrisb



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:27 pm Reply with quote
Thank you so much for letting anime fans know about this great movie, it is one of the most touching and depressing movies I have ever seen. I hope people give it a try because it really is an incredibly beautiful movie that anyone will enjoy, and if you aren't sad by the end, you have no heart.

Please try and find a copy of Marco The Movie, the remake of the Nippon Animation Tv series from the 70s (3000 Leagues in Search of Mother) because it is pretty much another fantastic Nippon movie.

Too bad so few people know about Nippon's classics like 3000 Leagues, Romeo's Blue Sky (one of my favorites), Lassie, and the recent titles Porfy no Nagai and Les Miserables. Please people give these shows a try, they are the anime people grew up with and what more anime should be like.

Didn't mean to sound like a total fanboy but I just love Nippon Animation.
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jsevakis
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:08 pm Reply with quote
If anyone's interested in the documentary, the filmmaker has put it on American eBay.

I haven't seen it yet, but my copy is on the way.
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:15 pm Reply with quote
I feel like this review is simultaneously turning me on and off to seeing this movie. I'm sure it's an utterly beautiful and wonderful piece of anime...but, at the same time, I'm not sure if I feel like subjecting myself to a guaranteed bawling-my-eyes-out ending. I've felt the same hesitancy about finally sitting down and watching Grave of the Fireflies. Maybe it's just an inherent Western preference for fairytale happy endings, but I sometimes wish that more anime series received that warm-and-fuzzy treatment in the end, instead of the "everybody dies" motif that's seemingly rather common. Maybe if I'm in the mood for some self-pity one day, I'll look this title up.
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