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gatotsu911
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Oh come on, that's nonsense. Mainstream game reviews were just as amateurish, uncritical, fanboy-informed and skewed toward popular/hyped titles then as they are now - possibly even moreso. (Just look at how much more reviews from that time period obsessed over graphics than reviews today.) |
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bravetailor
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The Saturn was a superb piece of hardware in retrospect, and Sega probably should have given it a bit more time instead of listening to Bernie Stolar (though I have a lot of admiration for the Dreamcast as well). A lot of game developers had a hard time grappling with the mechanics of the Saturn, instead opting for the dumbed down PSX hardware to make their games for. Though the Saturn's proficiency with 2d is well known, people said the Saturn couldn't do 3d well, but there have been enough examples shown that it could punch in the same weight class.
When used correctly, the Saturn sometimes proved that its ultimate potential may well have outstripped the PS1 by a considerable amount. Given time, less advanced game developers might have finally acquired the tools and knowhow to properly develop for the Saturn. The Saturn as a piece of hardware fascinates me to no end, even though I don't collect for it since the games are too expensive. It's difficult also for a retro collector to justify buying a North American version of a Saturn because many of its best games are in Japan. As such, there are the headaches of modding, tracking down hard-to-find Action Replay carts and such that must be taken into consideration with this machine (unlike the Dreamcast which makes import play as simple as a boot disc) If nothing else, Saturn owners who have the machine collecting dust should still keep it as a memorable piece of console craftsmanship. |
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Paul Soth
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That's two weeks in a row that you've brought up Angel Cop.
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EnigmaticSky
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My one gripe with Phoenix Wright is that it seems they rushed his model a little. It's like his face should be thinner, and his hair should be a bit more... pheonix-wright-spiked.
I would love if for DLC they had his "Bullshit Evolved" voice. So great. xD |
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Emerje
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I've still got my Saturn, though it's in the box right now, just waiting for me to find time to hook it back up (still need to replace the battery...). I got mine in '98 at Walmart.
On clearance. For $30... 
At the time I was able to get a lot of good game for cheap like Shining Force III, Guardian Heroes, and Panzer Dragoon Zwei.
You and me both. Come on, Sega, get translating and stick it all on Live and PSN already! That and Fighters Megamix, now that's a game Sega should revisit with a sequel! Crossovers are all the rage right now and it would be a good excuse to use Miku Hatsune again, right? Emerje |
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enurtsol
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Just got the new wireless racing wheel for $30. A friend is selling a barely used $300 one for $100. 
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sainta
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UMVC3: Way to treat one of the video game characters who created your company, Capcom. Mega Man must be crying somewhere.
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FaytLein
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Did someone mention Sega Saturn? About Chrono Cross, while it had plenty of good things about it, the sheer weight of characters that had no point existing other than flavor, and how completely convoluted the plot got near the second disc, it knocks it down a few pegs in my eyes. Drop the luchadore psychic priest, mushroom man and skeleton clown and the rest, the game would have been improved 200% at least. |
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naninanino
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I'd say it's spot on, given how similarly hyperbolic fits Chrono fans throw out for that game. |
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GrilledEelHamatsu
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That statement is 100% true. There's a general malaise of bias in the mainstream gaming world. I mean look at how many people are fawning over MW and giving it high scores, yet Game Informer & EDGE couldn't even give Sonic Generations a decent score but IGN,GT,1up,Kotaku,Destructoid and even the Anti Sonic Game Radar threw Sonic a bone and gave the game good scores. That's injustice, pure and simple. |
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sfried
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I appreciate the Sega Saturn tribute Todd, but no Segata?
Also no mention of SystemSoft Alpha's Moe Moe Daisensou Gendaib-an 3D Strategy Game? Just pulling your leg. Although I dunno whether I should find this trend of an increasing number of 3DS moe games being announced to be disturbing or not. |
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kazume
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Chrono Cross is by far one of the greater games to come out during that time. Probably biased on it, but no other game's musical score has ever been able to match it then, and the soundtrack in it's entirety is probably the best that will ever grace a video game now.
Yet most people either regard it as a "great game but horrible sequel" or "good story but horrible battle mechanics." As for me I'm proud to have played it three times over and FINALLY figuring out how to get Razzly's final weapon to use that elusive triple tech ^-^ 40 characters was a bit much, but this goes out to all the people that want more but when they get it, whine and complain like they did for CC. Sure it's totally possible to give us only a handful of characters like in Trigger and make those few count, but there's something to be said about an abundance of characters and a slight tweak in the text on screen to adapt every single character into the story, something that no other game has even attempted which wasn't perfect but it worked incredibly well. (The developer ending explains the simplicity of it.) If it worked to perfection, you'd see every possible copycat try to mimick the formula, put their own logo on it, and bam, attempt to sell *cough*MW-COD-BF*cough* rinse, lather, sell 5.9 million copies of regurgitated crap, which is what games like Brink, Rage, and especially the new Duke taking up space at the bottom of the FPS barrel. It worked for Cross but to this day I am SO glad it didn't spawn a bunch of imitators, making Cross a truly unique game, and as much as I like Trigger since that's the game that started it all, although no one can imitate it's amazing story, there's an imitator for it's battle mechanics out there stinking up the place. Cross doesn't have that "problem" as far as I can remember. |
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Dessa
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While I love CC (more than Trigger, which I find boring, actually), and agree with your points, I gotta disagree here. While text-style differences might not be there, Chrono Cross is not the only game with a high number of playable characters that has character-specific dialogue depending on who you have with you. May I present to you the Suikoden series? Each game has around 80 playable characters (108 total recruits, though some give services instead of being party members), and there are many scenes that have character-specific dialogue. In fact, the US version of Suikoden II actually has a glitch with one of those scenes. At one point, you have to infiltrate a school, so only school-aged characters can come with you. One of these characters is Futch, even though this scene takes place hours before you can recruit him. However, due to what was probably left in from testing, you can actually recruit him very early into the game. By doing this, you can bring him along. However, some of his dialogue displays with glitched characters, because the US programmers didn't realize it was possible to have him at that point, and didn't translate his lines. |
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DTJB
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Okay, we get it. You really like that Linn chick from AvP, get ahold of yourself.
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leafy sea dragon
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Game Informer is owned by Gamestop, so I'm pretty confused why it even gives negative reviews at all. Didn't it give Sonic 2006 an 8 out of 10? I'm also having a hard time telling apart all of the gritty war shooting games coming out. They all blur into one for me. |
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