encyclopedia
forum
username password login remember me | register
menu_news
menu_views
menu_encyclopedia
menu_video
menu_forum
menu_myann

Forum - View topic
NEWS: Druaga Anime Episode Removed from Crunchyroll for Now


Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
rt2x



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:40 pm Reply with quote
luhead wrote:
Is there really a "Shinji"? I always assumed "he" was a corporate figurehead, like Betty Crocker or the Pillsbury Doughboy. All "his" posts on the site seem phony as hell to me.


Why is this company so secretive? We know who the founders of Youtube, Google and Yahoo are. Is it because the founders know they are running an illegal site?

However, information seems to have finally turned up... according to this site, the executive officers are Kun Gao, Vu Nguyen, Brandon Ooi, James Lin, and Sanha Han. Most seem to be graduates of Berkeley who worked at Hotornot.com.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Furudanuki



Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 1004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:40 pm Reply with quote
melonbread wrote:
I'd extend that to the staff, actually, I mean what kind of company with a $4m investment goes around using Internet slang on news headings and all that.

The same kind of company that cannot be troubled to fix their PayPal link despite being repeatedly informed of the problem by many people over a period of several days. The closest thing I ever saw to a response was that PayPal might be having some problems with a server, and that it would probably work again after a few days. Since I have used PayPal on several other sites during the same time period with absolutely no difficulty, I'm a little skeptical about that technical explanation. You would think that a company would be a bit more concerned about the fact that people who were ready and willing to purchase their product were having problems doing so. This was my first interaction with Crunchyroll, and it will very likely be my last.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime
melonbread



Joined: 09 Jan 2008
Posts: 314
Location: UK (London)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:12 pm Reply with quote
hikaru004 wrote:
melonbread wrote:
hikaru004 wrote:
You were only seeing the top donators. It is known how low you can go to get those videos on Crunchyroll. Maybe a lot of people had the balls to do it.


Yeah you could pay $0.01, but I'm pretty sure if someone's going to enter their credit card details, they're at least going to pay $2.

I'm probably completely wrong, but maybe.. just maybe.. the community pulled through and made this a success.

Let's have some optimism here.

No one knows any facts here, so I think we should just wait and see.


I can definitely tell you that at least one credit card user did not pay $2. Credit cards don't have fees for transactions. You can go as low as the system allows you to. Wink


I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.

I realise you can get the show for $0.01. As far as I know you can't get it free. If you're pointing at the fact that somehow you got the episode for free or something, then I'm totally confused?

I'm just saying I don't really think a lot of people would be happy just paying $0.01 for an episode, they'd want to at least pay a reasonable amount, if they're going to pay anything at all.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Jih2



Joined: 24 Jul 2007
Posts: 381
Location: East coast

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:14 pm Reply with quote
Someone else told me that plenty of people were paying a penny for the downloads as well...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
melonbread



Joined: 09 Jan 2008
Posts: 314
Location: UK (London)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:16 pm Reply with quote
rt2x wrote:
luhead wrote:
Is there really a "Shinji"? I always assumed "he" was a corporate figurehead, like Betty Crocker or the Pillsbury Doughboy. All "his" posts on the site seem phony as hell to me.


Why is this company so secretive? We know who the founders of Youtube, Google and Yahoo are. Is it because the founders know they are running an illegal site?

However, information seems to have finally turned up... according to this site, the executive officers are Kun Gao, Vu Nguyen, Brandon Ooi, James Lin, and Sanha Han. Most seem to be graduates of Berkeley who worked at Hotornot.com.


Berkeley's a good American Uni isn't it? Like one of the top scienfitic places isn't it?

That' odd then, seeing as the admin acts like an idiot, and the interview with Vu said one of the other staff was a college drop-out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kashicat



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 8
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:48 pm Reply with quote
I know the founders of Crunchyroll haven't been all that upfront with their personal identities, but I know that when the Venrock venture capital firm decided to back them, it put one of its own top people, General Partner David Simonoff, on the Crunchyroll board. So that firm, at least, felt that Crunchryoll was legit.

Also, Gonzo and GDH themselves chose the "open pricing" model on Crunchyroll; they announced it in a press release last week. They said it would be a chance for them to test viewer feedback, and so on. So if they pulled Druaga off the site, I doubt that it would be because of that. The only reason I could see them pulling it because of the "open pricing" thing would be if they had had a prior agreement with Crunchyroll that if the average payment went below a certain amount, they would discontinue it. But that was never mentioned in the announcements, so that would have had to be a behind-the-scenes agreement.

My guess would be either incompetent handling of the streaming on Crunchyroll's part, or problems with the mechanism of paying (i.e. the Paypal problem or something like it).

It wouldn't surprise me if the Venrock people didn't leap in and get that straightened out very quickly; they've got an investment that could go down the drain.

I also wonder if all this didn't happen a bit too quickly, once Crunchyroll got the backing from Venrock and almost immediately got the deal with Gonzo. That's a lot of changes to put into effect, awfully quickly. Crunchyroll went from more or less a great big fan-site to an even larger real-life business, almost overnight. There would be colossal glitches even if that happened slowly. I bet they just got overwhelmed.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger My Anime
hikaru004



Joined: 15 Mar 2004
Posts: 1832

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:50 pm Reply with quote
melonbread wrote:


Berkeley's a good American Uni isn't it? Like one of the top scienfitic places isn't it?

That' odd then, seeing as the admin acts like an idiot, and the interview with Vu said one of the other staff was a college drop-out.



Bill Gates (head of Microsoft) was a drop out from Harvard apparently and look at him now.

The "shinji" persona is a PR thing to get the teens to identify with the site more. Just look at that avatar. It screams "outsider youth with inferiority complex". The fact that it's Shinji should have also been a red flag.

You should have realised this by now.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ikillchicken
SubscriberSubscriber


Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 2510
Location: Vancouver - Go Canucks Go!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:59 pm Reply with quote
Yay! Let's hear it for Gonzo's: "who needs professionals when we can just work with a bunch of anonymous kids on the internet who run an illegal file sharing site for profit" strategy! No potential problems in that. Thank god we have brilliant people such as this running the anime industry.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message My Anime My Manga
hikaru004



Joined: 15 Mar 2004
Posts: 1832

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:02 pm Reply with quote
Ah but those kids are Berkeley graduates. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kashicat



Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 8
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:03 pm Reply with quote
I don't mind Gonzo trying experiments like that. The same day they announced they were going to cooperate with Crunchyroll, Bandai and FUNimation came out with stiff-lipped statements warning that everyone had better stop with the fansubs or else. I remember thinking, "Human nature and young people being what they are, Bandai and FUNimation had better realize that they're never going to stop that stuff by whacking people over the heads."

I felt that Gonzo was taking the better route, trying to accommodate those fans as much as they could, but still get some profit from it themselves. I still think, ultimately, that that's going to be the way to go.

I don't expect it to work perfectly at the beginning. (What does?) But I think Gonzo's ideas are taking real live human beings into account a lot more than Bandai's and FUNimation's. Even if Crunchyroll might turn out to be less reliable than hoped, and may in fact have to be dumped. It will work eventually, I think.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger My Anime
Oronae



Joined: 05 Oct 2006
Posts: 156

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:42 pm Reply with quote
$0.01 is still too much to pay for Blassreiter. I took advantage of BOST's free episode one download and I still feel like I got ripped off.

Y'hear me GONZO? I want that half-hour of my life back you talentless hacks.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
walw6pK4Alo



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 1647

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:21 pm Reply with quote
I watched it on YouTube via the legal channel using the highquality url add-in. So the stream itself was fine enough, but I was watching today with my friend between classes and after a few minutes we just turned to each other and agreed that it sucked beyond anything. I don't think I've ever dropped a show so fast.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Teriyaki Terrier



Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Posts: 1609
Location: Chihuahua Island

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:00 am Reply with quote
hikaru004 wrote:
melonbread wrote:


Berkeley's a good American Uni isn't it? Like one of the top scienfitic places isn't it?

That' odd then, seeing as the admin acts like an idiot, and the interview with Vu said one of the other staff was a college drop-out.



Bill Gates (head of Microsoft) was a drop out from Harvard apparently and look at him now.

The "shinji" persona is a PR thing to get the teens to identify with the site more. Just look at that avatar. It screams "outsider youth with inferiority complex". The fact that it's Shinji should have also been a red flag.

You should have realised this by now.


I should have known. I read the article and there is no "Shinji" listed. I bet "Shinji" is one of the corporate big wigs. I always noticed "Shinji" had horriable writing and had the avatar most anime teens can respond to.

Well Crunchyroll, I've been loyal to you and even donatead in commenerial of my one year of membership. Consider that my last donation ever, as I am very discusted with the behind of the scenes work. I knew this would happen though, eventually whoever is the main creator of Crunchyroll got too greedy and began to charge money any way they could.

If not for the fact that this site has HD seasonal anime updates and old anime I would not be able to see elsewhere I would have quit right NOW as we speak. Crunchyroll, you are one shady company I'll never give money to ever again.

I'll probably give people this new information about Crunchyroll, but because of HD quality and selection of anime in Crunchyroll, I probably won't quit the site. Though I do want to expose Crunchyroll's shady past, because I am sure not even the Crunchyroll staff knows what is going on.

There's no "Shinji", I should have realized that, but I wonder who actually created Crunchyroll? Will people ever know or will this be a secert until Crunchyroll closes?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Conan-san



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Posts: 766

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:49 am Reply with quote
Given that they left us with the crappy Gyver ripoff that can't decide what it's cannon fodder should be called, I would like to believe this is the 1 cent punishment.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
z7q2



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 26
Location: Jersey Shore, U.S.A.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:58 am Reply with quote
As an anime consumer, here's what I want:

Every anime ever made available in one place on demand, nicely catalogged, with accurate subtitles.

Whether I pay for it with a subscription or by watching commercials does not matter to me. I just want to watch the shows.

Crunchyroll comes close to achieving this and that is why I give them my money. If something better comes along I will go there instead.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group