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BladeDragoonZETA
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I trust Bandai Entertainment and their dubs quite a bit.
their Gundam dubs have usually been good and I think they (or the studio they hire) can do a very good job.
my bet is Bandai will try to push a TV deal if Geass does well enough |
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DigimonTamer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:49 pm |
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| Tyrenol wrote: |
And Gurren Lagann; its garbage.
Gainax is a company filled with hypocrites; cussing out people on 2chan during GL's run (and making Simoun's face look like a rear-end on episode 4) yet having as much fanservice as every other pretentious animu that's out there.
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Thank you!! I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way about Gurren Lagann and Gainax.
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When you manage to lose one of the most marketable shows of a year, you have to be in some sort of trouble. You wouldn't just give up a title like that willingly in order to pursue crap like Devil May Cry more. |
Except that Devil May Cry is guaranteed to sell more than Gurren Lagann ever could. |
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Key
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:38 pm |
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| v1cious wrote: | | if this gets Adult Swim syndication (which is looking good now), this series will be huge. also the model Bandai's using to sell it makes it pretty much an impulse buy if you're a fan of the series. people who don't care about dubs can hopefully get a high-quality dvd with extras. |
Um, since when do the words "bare-bones sub-only format at nine episodes per DVD" (a direct quote from the news story) imply that there will be any Extras? The declaration more gives the impression that the summer release will be episodes-only, while those who want Extras, whether they care about the dub or not, are going to be waiting until next year.
Also, while I quite liked the first episode when I saw its free preview a while back, it did not give me the impression of the kind of series that might fly well on Adult Swim. Let's face it: despite its fan popularity, it's only slightly less of a niche title, by U.S. standards, than MoHS was. |
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v1cious
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:21 pm |
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| Key wrote: | | Also, while I quite liked the first episode when I saw its free preview a while back, it did not give me the impression of the kind of series that might fly well on Adult Swim. Let's face it: despite its fan popularity, it's only slightly less of a niche title, by U.S. standards, than MoHS was. |
doesn't matter, it has a strong pedigree. the simple fact that it's by the creator of FLCL sells it for Williams Street. also they have Code Geass, which is FAR less appealing to the average joe. |
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SomeVito
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:34 pm |
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| Key wrote: | | Let's face it: despite its fan popularity, it's only slightly less of a niche title, by U.S. standards, than MoHS was. |
Haruhi was a show you either got or you didn’t, and required a lot of explanation. I doubt a person could ever convince someone who wasn’t really already into anime to watch it just because most American audiences aren’t used to seeing that kind of thing. Also Haruhi was released in chronological order, which makes the show a lot less interesting.
Gurren Lagann is a giant robot show where there’s a lot of cool action and doesn’t require much explanation because thanks to shows like Power Rangers and Transformers, Americans get that giant robots are awesome. Also since the show doesn’t get terribly complex, it’s pretty easy to follow and get into. |
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DigimonTamer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:38 pm |
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| I think the bigger issue is that this whole fiasco with the Gurren Lagann license just goes to show how tough and horrible it is to deal with Gainax as far as business goes. |
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GATSU
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:53 pm |
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| Could this news also mean that ADV has chosen to invest in the new Eva movies over GL? |
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cloud1989
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:55 pm |
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| is ADV going to be at this new york con to, I would be curious as to what they have to say about anything now. |
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cloud1989
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:56 pm |
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| Quote: | | Could this news also mean that ADV has chosen to invest in the new Eva movies over GL? |
interesting theory, I just now thought about it, they did way they were interested, and I know eva could make more money than gurren lagann can.
By they way, what other series besides GL and st.Frog did adv keep removed. |
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:01 am |
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| v1cious wrote: |
doesn't matter, it has a strong pedigree. the simple fact that it's by the creator of FLCL sells it for Williams Street. also they have Code Geass, which is FAR less appealing to the average joe. |
But pedigree doesn't mean jack for shows running on Adult Swim. Very few of the people watching it will care that its by the people that made FLCL. It's also a super robot series (though not the traditional one) and super robot isn't exactly popular in R1. Code Geass is real robot, more like Gundam, and real robot is more in line with the current tastes and is more mainstream. Code Geass also benefits from a dark anti-hero which is also popular, far more so that Hard Work and Guts types.
This is not to say that Gurren Lagann can't get an AS run, but not as mass marketable as you seem to think it is, certainly not more so than Code Geass. |
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Keonyn
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:09 am |
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This news is no news for me until the dub is released. Releasing it sub only is pretty much a big middle finger to the casual fans or fans who like watching dubs. Bandais handling of E7 really impressed me, but unfortunately this is a big step backwards in my opinion. I don't mind watching a show in subs, I started anime that way and was a sub purist myself until a number of years ago. Out of principle though, I won't support the companies release until they demonstrate they're thinking of the fans, which a sub only release of a major title is demonstrates they are not in my eyes.
So, when that dubbed release comes out I'll let them have my money, but until then my wallet is tightly sealed. Especially since I see this as a possible attempt to get fans to double dip. Release a bare bones sub only release to start, then release the standard version with extras in the hopes those sub fans and fans that just had to have it and couldn't wait will open their pockets a second time for a stronger release.
Anime has always had the fact they release their titles bilingually in a single release going for them. Frankly, this feels like a big step backwards, especially with a one year delay considering a dub shouldn't even take that long to produce. To me that further support the double dipping theory, since if the release with the extras and the dub was going to be soon after the first release then more people would be willing to wait. |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:20 am |
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This news is a complete shock for me. And the funny thing I was at NY Comic Con today but unaware of this until I got home.
Well as of right now I will be buying the sub release. I enjoy dubs but I can live without them easily. The lack of extras is kind of ashame but most extras I only view once anyways.
Right now I just want to get Gurren Lagann as soon as possible. The main thing that worries me is I have a feeling the later releases will have nicer covers. But if I definitely will not be double dipping on this release.
Actually it would be really interesting to see a poll on what release people plan to buy based on this news. |
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Westlo
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:31 am |
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| DigimonTamer wrote: | | Except that Devil May Cry is guaranteed to sell more than Gurren Lagann ever could. |
Expect a massive drop off in sales from Vol 1 to Vol 2. |
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TheTrueUndead
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:34 am |
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| Westlo wrote: | | DigimonTamer wrote: | | Except that Devil May Cry is guaranteed to sell more than Gurren Lagann ever could. |
Expect a massive drop off in sales from Vol 1 to Vol 2. |
I don't know about that...for the most part casual anime fans and mainstream gamers that like DMC cause it's one of those cool things will still eat it up like hotcakes regardless of quality. |
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GATSU
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| Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:50 am |
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Keonyn: The casual fans would rather watch Code Geass. Oh, and waiting for the dubbed release of a show you might not even like is dumb. You wanna see it so badly, get the first subbed volume, and get the rest dubbed. You're not proving anything to BE by waiting, other than that the series might not be worth investing in the dub, since the sub didn't make money.
Westlo: If I learned anything about merchandise related to Capcom games, it's that it almost never loses money. |
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