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dormcat Encyclopedia Editor

Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 7336 Location: Hsinchu City, Taiwan, ROC
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:52 pm |
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| Apterous wrote: | | Dormcat: Good idea, but I don't think she went to Japan to die "in Japanese fashion." Hokkaido is the last place where cherry blossoms bloom in spring, so I'd go to look for her near large sakura groves and viewing sites. |
That was not what I meant. IIRC there's a cliff by the sea in Hokkaido surrounded by signs like "DO NOT JUMP!" "THINK FOR YOUR LOVED ONES!" "THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE!" etc., indicating its "popularity."  |
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penguintruth

Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 2490 Location: Penguinopolis
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:55 pm |
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As a recent graduate of CCSU, I was surprised when I recieved an e-mail a week ago about this girl's disappearance (they still send me plenty of e-mail), but I'm even more surprised that she went to Japan on the premise of being an anime fan and might have taken her life there. This was information that Central has not released to its students, to my knowledge.
To be honest, I participated in CCSU anime events in the past, and they were somewhat unsatisfactory. My tastes clashed with that of the members and I disliked the attitude of the leader of the "JPop Club", but I did generally think the people were friendly enough. I don't remember ever seeing this girl before, though, so maybe she joined after I decided to stop attending.
My sympathies to her family and friends. |
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Psycho 101
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Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 5223 Location: In the Grumpmobile with Grumpyman fighting crime one pot of coffee at a time.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:56 pm |
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| Apterous wrote: | it must have crushed her, a hardcore anime fan who went to study japanese language and culture because of anime, to be failing at japanese language and culture.
Lesson learned: don't let anime be your life. let it be your hobby. |
So simply because she was in the anime club she's now a hardcore fan and anime became her life? Honestly why is this news article here? Are we going to to report on every person who disappears as long as they belong to an anime club? I know I sound callous here but seriously, what's with the assumption anime has anything to do with this? She liked Japanese culture according to the article so if she was going to commit suicide it makes sense she'd do it where she felt comfortable. Not to mention serious depression runs in her family according to the article. So why does this have to be a case of her being some hardcore fan where anime became her obsession? I do hope she is found but I again wonder why this honestly is being reported here, except for the fact she was in an anime club. Are we going to report on every death, disappearance, or bad act to anime if the person simply watched it?
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Teriyaki Terrier

Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 1609 Location: Chihuahua Island
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:57 pm |
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| dormcat wrote: | | Apterous wrote: | | Dormcat: Good idea, but I don't think she went to Japan to die "in Japanese fashion." Hokkaido is the last place where cherry blossoms bloom in spring, so I'd go to look for her near large sakura groves and viewing sites. |
That was not what I meant. IIRC there's a cliff by the sea in Hokkaido surrounded by signs like "DO NOT JUMP!" "THINK FOR YOUR LOVED ONES!" "THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE!" etc., indicating its "popularity."  |
Those actually exist? This may be off topic, but a while back I saw a reference of what your are talking about on Ranma 1/2. A character was yelling something encouraging and waves were trashing like crazy.
Wow that sad that spot is popular. |
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Richard J.
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Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 2931 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:05 pm |
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This sounds less like an obsessive fan and more like a desperate girl clinging to the one thing that gave her some sort of joy in life. Personally, I can relate far too well.
I hope that she will be found alive but to have gone so far, it seems unlikely. Statistically, a woman makes a suicide attempt less with the intent of actually dying than to get people to realize that she's in trouble. To go somewhere that no one she knows could help her indicates she intended to die. It would be wonderful if they could find her alive though.
It's sad that people often ignore or just don't notice that a person's getting this depressed. Sometimes a little kindness can save a life. |
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MJP
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:06 pm |
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Let's see... Megan Budnick, extreme wapanese-ism.
KEIKAKU DOORI
In all seriousness, this is just another attractive white girl that's gone missing. It sucks that she didn't seek the help she needed, nor was she involuntarily committed since she might have been in a mental mindset as to not be able to be responsible for her own choices. Still, I guess it's just myopia that we don't see how many kids steal money from businesses, rather than their parents, to finance a drug habit.
Anime is a luxury and we partake in it as a culture. This is just someone who needs help, this is nothing new.
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| Quote: | | So simply because she was in the anime club she's now a hardcore fan and anime became her life? Honestly why is this news article here? Are we going to to report on every person who disappears as long as they belong to an anime club? I know I sound callous here but seriously, what's with the assumption anime has anything to do with this? She liked Japanese culture according to the article so if she was going to commit suicide it makes sense she'd do it where she felt comfortable. Not to mention serious depression runs in her family according to the article. So why does this have to be a case of her being some hardcore fan where anime became her obsession? I do hope she is found but I again wonder why this honestly is being reported here, except for the fact she was in an anime club. Are we going to report on every death, disappearance, or bad act to anime if the person simply watched it? |
THIS.
Otherwise, next week on ANN: Bandai Visual secretary goes to Starbucks for coffee, Gundam 00 Dark Roast speculated wildly at on forums, 4chan spams Dunkin Donuts for Desu Donut, film at 11. |
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Sakuya Masaki

Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 34 Location: TX, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:12 pm |
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| Richard J. wrote: | | This sounds less like an obsessive fan and more like a desperate girl clinging to the one thing that gave her some sort of joy in life. Personally, I can relate far too well. |
That's my thoughts on this, too. I know there was a time in my life when things were bad and I was just getting into anime that I would have given anything to go to Japan and get away from it all. For a while I was even looking at becoming an exchange student, but my family couldn't ever afford it.
This is a really sad story. Whatever happened, whether she's alive or dead, I hope she found what she was looking for. |
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Sexcobar
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Connecticut, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:15 pm |
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| She's from Southington, CT? I live 15 minutes away from there. That's pretty sad. |
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kokuryu

Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 910
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:25 pm |
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There has been something weird going on in that area for several months now - lots of disappearing women in that area. I think that she might have actually been a victim of a serial killer - and some of the victims even managed to call the police - BUT the police just filed the reports that the calls came in and never did anything. Is it a fellow cop, or just incompetent police?
Time will tell...
Maybe she got lucky and found a guy and just hitched up with him somewhere... |
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Paploo
Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 556
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:27 pm |
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| MJP Jerk wrote: | | Stuff Jerk 1+Jerk 2 said |
That's highly insensitive. I know fandom's always little self-centered, but that's really harsh and mean- a person's life is at risk, or in a worst case scenario, is already dead..... ANN's posting this to try to help out her poor family.
If anything, this should be posted more, and spread across anime fandom, to get as many people reading it as possible, including english and japanese speaking fans in Japan who would be able to help out.
I hope she's found safe and sound. This is really sad to hear. |
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flip Protoculture Addicts Editor in Chief

Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 118 Location: Montreal, Qc
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:34 pm |
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| Psycho 101 wrote: | | Honestly why is this news article here? Are we going to to report on every person who disappears as long as they belong to an anime club? I know I sound callous here but seriously, what's with the assumption anime has anything to do with this? |
Maybe you should consider the possibility that this news might have been posted in an attempt to help? Maybe someone in the anime community (either in North America or in Japan) knows her or knows something about her? Why deprived her family of this chance even if it's slim?
When you post “missing” posters all over town, it doesn't mean that the missing person was there, but you never know. Family of missing person often ask the media to talk about the case to increase the chances that the person is found or that new information about the disappearence is discovered.
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MJP
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:36 pm |
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| Paploo wrote: |
That's highly insensitive. I know fandom's always little self-centered, but that's really harsh and mean- a person's life is at risk, or in a worst case scenario, is already dead..... ANN's posting this to try to help out her poor family.
If anything, this should be posted more, and spread across anime fandom, to get as many people reading it as possible, including english and japanese speaking fans in Japan who would be able to help out.
I hope she's found safe and sound. This is really sad to hear. |
If this person was a non-anime fan and you heard about this just by glancing across another town's newspaper on page two, would you still care?
There's no way you can answer yes, because you wouldn't.
I'm sorry you're too myopic to understand that people die every day. Suicide is a bad thing, and if I'm a jerk for saying, quote, "It sucks that she didn't seek the help she needed, nor was she involuntarily committed since she might have been in a mental mindset as to not be able to be responsible for her own choices," then call me a jerk who thinks that ANY PERSON WHO IS SUICIDAL NEEDS SOME KIND OF HELP BEFORE THEY HURT THEMSELVES. But anyone who's saying that this is a huge tragedy, that they're praying for the family, etc. should read about every person that commits suicide in a day.
If you care, volunteer at a helpline, donate your money to suicide prevention organizations, or reach out to someone who's withdrawn. If you care about the issue, take some responsibility and do something about it. Otherwise, you're just like me: making light of suffering because there's nothing anyone can do about it. |
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young98

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 68 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:38 pm |
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| MJP wrote: | Let's see... Megan Budnick, extreme wapanese-ism.
KEIKAKU DOORI
In all seriousness, this is just another attractive white girl that's gone missing. |
[edit - don't be a dick. -b]
anyways, i don't have sympathy for people that want to take the easy way out like suicide or running away. it's dumb, i can't think of a logical reason to do that, and i doubt she's crazy seeing as she grew up to that age seemingly normal to the people around her, and even getting into college. i don't know the reason for her un-sent suicide email, or her running away, but i don't care if she's ever found for her sake, but for the family's sake, i guess it'd better to know what happened |
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RubberSoul

Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 42 Location: I wish I knew...
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:42 pm |
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| Teriyaki Terrier wrote: | | There is a lesson in this story; don't let anime become your life, let anime simply be a hobby. Or else a case similar to this story will happen. Anime was never made to become a obession,anime was made to become a hobby. |
Oh, no, she didn't run away because she was anime fan. She had problems of her own and anime was her method of escape. Honestly, that method of escape could've been anything. She just made that escape into tangible reality by running off to Japan.
At least, that's what I think as a 20-year-old female anime fan attending college. |
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MJP
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 86
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:45 pm |
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| young98 wrote: | Let's see... Megan Budnick, extreme wapanese-ism.
KEIKAKU DOORI
In all seriousness, this is just another attractive white girl that's gone missing. |
attractive? have you seen the picture?
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Hey, they can't all be Aryanesque former cheerleaders. She's not fist-of-an-angry-god attractive or dump-your-current-flame attractive, but I'd chat her up if I was single.
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