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REVIEW: Speed Racer


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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:15 pm Reply with quote
COF uploaded my review.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:28 pm Reply with quote
Anime World Order wrote:
Jedi General wrote:
I just got back from the film. And I absolutely LOVED it.


Reading through this thread, I was starting to think I was the only one!

I have zero complaints about this movie save for one: spoiler[They didn't use the homing pigeon!] But you know what? That didn't dawn on me until after I left because I was too busy thinking about how awesome everything was.

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What DID bother me was the fact that I made the mistake of going to the nearly-empty 11:15 PM showing on the grounds that a theater full of little kids would be too annoying. You know what I just learned is more annoying? The guy in his mid to late 20s who loudly says stuff like "ha! Not interested! NEXT!" to inform the world that he is just so incredibly sophisticated that he is NOT AMUSED at Ben Ten Alien Force and the other movie trailers / scenes designed to appeal to 8 year-olds. I think this is a rare instance where seeing this one with a bunch of kids present would actually enhance the viewing experience.

To heck with the haters. I'm so totally buying this movie on Blu-Ray once it comes out.

Yeah, I thought it odd they would point it out and then .... deleted scenes footage I guess.

I think including the stragglers, our midnight showing (one of two theaters at the location I went to) might have topped out at a dozen (including the attendant watching from the aisle.) Luckily folks were well behaved.

I could have done without the double Ben 10-trailer ... particularly after sitting through 20-odd loops of Regal's pre-pre-trailer garbage (I can still remember the order) and three loops of the audio, but at least the First Look footage was mostly different from last week's even if the movies weren't. That Alien Force premiered a month ago did not help any. And the Star Wars trailer ... ... *shudder* I was expecting it to be another animated show, not CGI rendered on a 2nd generation gaming console.

Personally, nobody has any right to complain about the colors (or lack of lack thereof,) outside of an artistic production value method. It's not like Warner is hiding them from the public or withholding the bright-shinies from the promotional clips/trailers/commercials.

My main complaint was that the digital projector was still running Iron Man rather than this. Can we order our BDs now?
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:57 pm Reply with quote
After watching the opening scenes, I couldn't help but wonder if, somewhere, someone else who was watching it might have gone in to an epileptic attack. Thats how the colors work. My cousin has epilepsy, and I don't think she can ever watch this movie because of that.

Also, to many people, this may be the first anime based live action movie they see, to me, this is not the case. To those who it applies, you're incredibly lucky.

A lot of anime based live action movies tend to be horrible, or they just deviate from the original (Anyone whos ever seen the Hong Kong Dragonball movie can see where this comes from).

Watching the movie more than once is warrented, I feel, because the special effects overshadow everything else. Seeing it a second time, I will be less wow'ed by them, and be able to fully enjoy it more, I believe.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
More important at this stage is the box office, which right now isn't looking very good. Nobody is predicting this will do more than $35 million this weekend, to be beaten soundly by Iron Man's second weekend tally of $50m+.


I bet now Warner wishes your $35 million prediction was accurate. From the disastrous Friday numbers (opening below What Happens in Vegas), it's going to be lucky if it makes it past $23 million for the weekend.

Mattel, which had spent a lot of money producing Speed Racer-branded Hot Wheels merchandise, is really going to be taking a bath on this one. I'm a moderate collector of Hot Wheels myself, and, at the local Toys R' Us and Zellers, Speed Racer stuff has taken over easily a third of the Hot Wheels section, and these toys will probably now be headed for the "clearance" aisle faster than even the Superman Returns toys did in 2006.
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~Brain.Wav~



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:07 pm Reply with quote
Personally, I loved it, though I can see how some people wouldn't. My brother (13) thought I was nuts for going to see it. My only complaint was the swearing... it just didn't fit.

A couple things I noticed, when Pops is spinning the ninja around, his keys fly out and lodge into the wall. Ryouga from Ranma 1/2, in pig form, is hanging from the keys. Also, I could have sworn I saw the Asurada from Cyber Formula GPX during the Fuji race.
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tygerchickchibi



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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:31 pm Reply with quote
This movie did remind me of an anime in some sorts...the fight scenes, especially with Spritle and Chim Chim. I couldn't help but be awed at the angles the movie was giving; I saw it being very creative and not as overwhelming as I had originally thought it would be. However. I couldn't help myself walking out of the theater saying to myself "... *__* Oooh, pretty colors."

I would rather not have people "trying" to convince me that it sucks or it's great. I'm honestly not even going to watch Iron Man, despite the hype in it either. I am definitely buying this DVD once its released. I really couldn't find any bad points in the movie; I hate analyzing things and I just want to enjoy it.

o_o if I were to do that, then I would be a reviewer; and probably give the same ratings. xD I can't believe that the announcer guy was Peter Fernandez, though...

He was really nice to me. ^___^
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:36 pm Reply with quote
I came home from the movie Friday night pleasantly surprised. This was an adaptation made by fanboys, from start to finish. The Wachowskis knew what they were getting into. I'm also pretty sure they know this is going to bomb--hard to have any illusions about a 40-year-old franchise with little other new momentum behind it. But damn, they did it.

The feel of the show was kept throughout, down to the effects, storytelling, and style. It was, basically, a live-action cartoon.

I also have to give the Wachowskis points for letting the otaku have their moments. Peter Fernandez had a great cameo. Save for the rap, the end credits were fun. Mach Go Go Go theme for the win.

I was talking with a movie critic friend of mine. He was one of that magical 35% that liked the movie. I think that, in order to like SR, you need to know what it is and what it's trying to be. It's not trying to be a follow-up to "The Matrix" or "V for Vendetta." It's the polar opposite, a movie with one sole purpose--fun.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:30 pm Reply with quote
I guess it's toast. The sad part is that the DB movie might make money for the same reasons the TF movie made money. Sad You win this round, Stan, John, and Rob. Congratulations. I guess winners really don't do drugs. So stop popping acid, and give us something entertaining again next time, Andy and Larry. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:56 pm Reply with quote
DISASTER!!!

Maybe anime fans are waiting for the fansubs to come out. Laughing
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Keonyn
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:02 pm Reply with quote
If it makes money then it makes money, what is it to you? Unless you're paying for my ticket, or paying the budget for the film, then you're in no place to demand they cater to your tastes. Get over it GATSU, you're not impressing anyone with your sickeningly slanted view of the industry. We know you hate the domestic film industry, your borderline militant level of bias is as obvious as the sun on a clear day, you're not fooling anyone anymore.

It was a decent flick, no award winner, but still entertaining. I'm sorry you didn't find that to be the case, but we get it already, and we've gotten it already since your first venom filled post of blind hatred towards the domestic industry, and your "can do no wrong" embrace of the Japanese industry; even when it makes you a clear hypocrite.

Adaptations occur all over the place, even in Japan. Borrowing ideas isn't rare either, and anime is no exception. The adaptations cater to another audience than the original product, this is no different than when Japan adapts the likes of Highlander, or Earthsea, or The Count of Monte Cristo and so on. You think fans of those are pissing and whining that an anime was made that didn't adapt it to their tastes?
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:11 pm Reply with quote
Keonyn: It didn't make money, though. In fact, it performed below expectations. At best, it'll only be profitable on dvd. And FYI, I liked Iron Man-just not Bay. In addition, I never said Japanese filmmakers can't screw up, either, but they don't blow hundreds of millions of dollars(yet) doing it, and they don't try to pander to different demos across the board at once while doing it. What does it say when I thought Casshern to be more visually creative than Speed Racer?! (Hell, even that live-action Cutie Honey is more palatable than Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet.) Also, from what I hear, the Highlander anime was the best in the series in recent years, while people still liked Gedo Senki more than that live-action Earth Sea tv movie, so...And no one I know considered Gankutsuou inferior to the original book; and they usually are unimpressed by Gonzo.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:43 pm Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:
DISASTER!!!

Maybe anime fans are waiting for the fansubs to come out. Laughing


Heh, I see what you did there.
Wink

I just saw it, and I have to say, it was pretty mediocre. It tried to appeal to too many different demographics. The story as a whole was more or less wafer-thin, which would have been fine if it were more of a kids movie than it was, but it had to be more adult. Nitpick-wise, did they have to go and use unobtainium excuses for tech level? They could've just easily used more realistic mechanics for the cars, and still explained it away with wacky anime physics.

To be totally honest, I thought the races in "Le Mans" were more exciting than they were in it. The races themselves only served to further the disconnect I had with actually caring about any of the characters in the movie. "Oh golly gee, look at the car-fu, seeing as these vehicles are nigh indestructible, I'm not really feeling any danger here".

Part of me also fears for the few racing games I play online, since I know some kids are going to want to have bumper grinding spin-matches the next time I race.

And before anyone claims I'm biased for my username, erm, just because I'm a big Iron Man fan doesn't mean I can't enjoy other movies right?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:08 pm Reply with quote
The numbers is coming in at the box office and the result is not pretty for Speed Racer. coming well below what its distributor was hoping for. At 20.2 mil speed take the sesond place, Iron man retain it top spot with 50 mil more than twice that of Speed Racer. Warner Brothers, Speed Racer's distributor was hoping for a mid-40s opening or possibly topple Iron Man for the top spot. With 120 millions budget and the dismal opening result it got to be stinked. The failure of Speed Racer is not that the film is base on an anime, but rather the poor reviews it got, with is mostly poor. The film was directed by The Wasckowskis brothers, which found fame after their creation, the first Matrix film released in 2001 but saw their reputation crashing to the ground after the second and third of their trilotry released in 2003 ( The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolution.). The poor reviews and awful financial result got to be a blow and a disappoinment to them and Warner Brothers as well as anime fans.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:10 pm Reply with quote
I guess now a more accurate title for the movie would be Speed, To the Dollar Theater, Racer, which will be playing right next to Harold and Kumar Escape from the Multiplex after Only Two Weeks.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:33 pm Reply with quote
Are you kidding? That Highlander anime was on par with the second movie; my god, it was an atrocity. Who are you hearing this from? Anime fans by chance? I find it hard to believe that classic literature fans who are not anime fans just happened across Gankutsuou, considering it gets essentially zero exposure outside of the anime community. The word of people who are part of the demographic the adaptation is catered towards is meaningless in relation to what I was saying.

And Gedo Senki is better than the Sci-Fi mini-series, but it's still a horrendous adaptation of a good book. If the Sci-Fi mini-series was the source material then you'd have a point, but it's not, so your point is lost. Oh, and FYI, I consider Gankutsuou easily inferior to the book. On its own, aside from the visual style I didn't care for, it stands up well. As an adaptation of a literary classic though? I'm afraid it doesn't even come close to the depth and complexity of the book and only suffers from the attempts to "anime-ize" the storyline and setting.

Besides, you more or less proved my point, even when you were trying to disprove it. You seem incapable of viewing the industry objectively, your attempt to make it seem as though you can only made that more clear. It's as though just trying was a struggle. So you liked Iron Man? Good for you, but I'd be willing to put money on that if Iron Man was a manga instead but was done exactly the same as the US comic was, and the movie was done identically, you'd probably be complaining about it instead. We'll just call it a theory though.

So it didn't make money? What's your point? Many great films don't make money and many crappy ones top the box office, those numbers reflect the mainstream. Using that as your basis is silly considering that if those standards meant anything to you, then you would have to view anime in an equally negative light considering the poor showing anime makes at the box office and DVD sales.
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