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GATSU
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 Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:55 pm |
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I don't think American's are, by and large, adverse to humanity-based nuanced views of conflict at all. Pound for pound, America probably has the most self-critical media in the world. |
The issue is about Disney handling such a film, not about how it would be perceived on its own. |
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Moomintroll
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:03 pm |
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| Goodpenguin wrote: | | Pound for pound, America probably has the most self-critical media in the world. |
Eh? I'd love to see some justification for that since it's not a great description of the (mainstream) American media I've encountered over the past few decades. |
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Goodpenguin
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:09 pm |
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| Moomintroll wrote: | | Goodpenguin wrote: | | Pound for pound, America probably has the most self-critical media in the world. |
Eh? I'd love to see some justification for that since it's not a great description of the (mainstream) American media I've encountered over the past few decades. |
I can give a quick 2 cents on what forms my opinion, but before I were to do that let me just clarify something. 'Media', in that quoted sentence, isn't referring to actual news channels like CNN, NBC, FOX, etc., being self-critical of their own reporting styles/affairs. I'm using media in a very broad sense to encapsulate how America culturally evaluates/debates the countries political actions/currents, be it books, academics, civics, etc. What I wrote was in response to a thread current speaking to Americans being put off by any message that wasn't 'rah rah America', and I don't find that culturally true in the least, especially compared to abroad. Again, if what your questioning is the specific tone/execution of American news media as compared to external sources (BBC/Sky/Italia Class CNBC/France-2 etc.,), that was just murky phrasing on my part. |
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Moomintroll
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:08 am |
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| Goodpenguin wrote: | | I'm using media in a very broad sense to encapsulate how America culturally evaluates/debates the countries political actions/currents, be it books, academics, civics, etc. What I wrote was in response to a thread current speaking to Americans being put off by any message that wasn't 'rah rah America', and I don't find that culturally true in the least, especially compared to abroad. |
I wouldn't argue with the first part of that but I have some trouble with the "compared to abroad" bit (at least in terms of Western Europe). And whilst I agree that there is plenty of self-criticism within the general US media (using your broad definition), there do seem to be more tabboo areas - and a lot more metaphorical flag-waving - at least in the mainstream.
| Quote: | | Again, if what your questioning is the specific tone/execution of American news media as compared to external sources (BBC/Sky/Italia Class CNBC/France-2 etc.,), that was just murky phrasing on my part. |
The BBC's not "external" to me. Neither's Sky but I certainly wish it was...then again, does anybody actually watch Sky News these days? 
Anyway, thanks for clarifying your point - you're right that I had misunderstood you somewhat. |
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