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NEWS: Tokyopop's Manga Pilot Pact Signs Away Legal Rights


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Hon'ya-chan



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:10 pm Reply with quote
Rawshark wrote:
This is so bad, especially considering TP's old RSOM contract wasn't all that fair to begin with this new one is above and beyond disgusting. To put in a clause that gives them an excuse to not even credit the creator is F-ed up. I hope TP implodes on it's on greed and incompetence.


When the operation is run by some mid-life crisis DJ wannabe chasing some Crack Whore's skirt, you know it hits the fan. What surprises me even more is that TOKYOPOP hasn't gone under a good year or so ago. Aside from the OEL debacle and their QC issues, such stuff like that would've killed companies months ago.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:11 pm Reply with quote
I'm generally anti self-publishing, but Tokyopop is the kind of garbage in the publishing industry that could make someone turn to self-publishing in a second. Tokyopop's contract sounds like something you'd expect to find in China.

Image Comics, on the other hand, sounds very good. I've always wanted to try my hand at comics, but never have because I'm crap at drawing, despite the vivid images in my head (I only do novels as a result).
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DPX



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:20 pm Reply with quote
Tokyopop sucking, how is this news again...
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Hon'ya-chan



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:16 pm Reply with quote
DPX wrote:
Tokyopop sucking, how is this news again...


They figured out a new way of shooting themselves in the foot....again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:59 am Reply with quote
Hmm... And this is why I don't try to enter RSOM. I agree, at least go with a company that gives you moral rights. I mean, if you don't even get CREDITED, why do it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:10 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm... And this is why I don't try to enter RSOM. I agree, at least go with a company that gives you moral rights. I mean, if you don't even get CREDITED, why do it?


$$$

I completely agree that you shouldn't give up your moral rights but there are certainly other reasons to pursue a career as a manga artist. It beats many of the other crap jobs out there. There is also something to be said for just getting your work out there for people to enjoy.
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The Xenos



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:51 pm Reply with quote
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There is also something to be said for just getting your work out there for people to enjoy.


Of course that one word is the issue here. Your work is now owned and controlled by TokyoPop and they can do whatever they want to it like the good trained whore your work has become.

That's a good OEL manga. Now just lie back, close your eyes, and think of Japan.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:49 am Reply with quote
Hey, I'm just saying that there is more reason to work as a manga artist that just credit.

I'm not defending Tokyopop. After all with this contract in addition to potentially getting no credit, you receive very little money and as you said your work may be changed beyond recognition. That kinda makes it 0 for 3.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:21 am Reply with quote
http://comics212.net/2008/05/30/how-to-run-a-business/

An interesting look at the situation...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:22 am Reply with quote
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$$$


But $20 a page is a shockingly low amount.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:24 pm Reply with quote
Aaron White:

Enough with your little vendetta already. Almost nobody is defending Tokyopop here so you can probably tone it down a bit.

ikillchicken wrote:
Hey, I'm just saying that there is more reason to work as a manga artist that just credit.

I'm not defending Tokyopop. After all with this contract in addition to potentially getting no credit, you receive very little money and as you said your work may be changed beyond recognition. That kinda makes it 0 for 3.


Stop beating a dead horse already.
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linlin68



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:45 pm Reply with quote
kirbyboy102 wrote:
Hmm... And this is why I don't try to enter RSOM. I agree, at least go with a company that gives you moral rights. I mean, if you don't even get CREDITED, why do it?

yeah your right ..!!If I publish I should get the same moral rights!!they same for everyone!

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1:Del Rey Manga
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3:Yen plus
4Surprisedr at less viz media..there really good company's!!
5:cmx
6Surprisedr this one .Broccoli Books there actually looking for mangaka's .. Razz hope this helped!! But I really recommend Del Rey Manga!
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