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stevek504
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:01 am Reply with quote
Being fairly new to anime, I was shocked the first time I recognized a voice. I had no clue, and had given no thought to who was doing the voices. I was watching Chobits when I picked out a voice that sounded familiar. I looked through the credits and found that the VA was in Please Twins (which I had just finished watching). I went on to check out some other anime this VA was in, like Last Exile.

Now I can pick out a few voices and keep a look out for any other anime they have been in. Is it that much different from “big screen” actors having a following, like Bruce Willis or Angelina Jolie, and showing up in film after film?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:07 am Reply with quote
Fortunately, I think, the only people who I associate with that watch anime are my friends, and none of them are that guy, nor am I (at least I hope). I had thought about joining my university's anime club when I started earlier this year, but in hindsight I'm glad I didn't, given all the stories I keep hearing.

britannicamoore wrote:

Exactly. It took me 24+ hours to get one show, and I feel it just isn't worth it.


This just being my opinion, but for the fansubs I watch, torrents are the only solution. You may have to wait a little longer to download full releases of older series, but when the process is done, quality is almost always going to be better (save perhaps if you download a particularly crappy release and compare that to a particularly high-quality stream), you aren't restricted by bizarre browser/OS compatibilities, and you can watch episodes whenever you want.

The problem of speed is generally a non-issue with brand new releases, as the torrent swarms are large and you are only going to have problems if your connection is dial-up (in which case streaming isn't an option either, I imagine). I can download high-def releases for shows like Code Geass R2 and Soul Eater inside an hour, and my apartment's connection isn't exactly a shining example of cutting-edge broadband technology. Not to mention, torrent releases tend to have better subtitles compared to streams from what I understand.

Now that I've finished blowing hot air, though, it occurs to me that maybe you were comparing torrents to DVDs, rather than streaming sites Razz. And of course, no viewing experience is better than a box full of those Smile.

prime_pm wrote:

I flinched a little when you mentioned "razor;" good thing it wasn't what I expected.


Yeah, I feared that we were going to hear about a blood-stained book, as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:03 am Reply with quote
That guy? I kind of know of "those guys". They aren't too extreme in the unhygienic department (though a few have a gravitational pull) but ye gad do they not like dubs. I go to an anime society at my university, and if the word dub (or showing of) is mentioned about 60% of the 40-80 people present (varies all the time) clearly let their feelings out in a cascade of noise.

However the anime soc is also anti-narutard so it's not all bad Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:55 am Reply with quote
Greg Ayres in every single anime? Not complaining... (Okay, maybe I should. After all, halfway through Kanon 2006, I still have called Jun Kitagawa by his name a maximum of about four times. The rest of the time: "Hey! It's GREG AYRES!")
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:35 am Reply with quote
I used to work with "that guy" at my current job. The only thing he didn't do was brush his teeth, which was bad but he bathed himself daily so that was one good thing. I do have to thank him for helping me get into different anime and manga series. Without him, I might not have got into other shows at all.
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Kenotic



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:04 am Reply with quote
Something I was thinking of regarding English anime voice actors -- The US Animation scene is pretty similar.

Check out a number of the animated series through the years, there's a good chance you'll see a few names that pop up in near everything: Rob Paulsen, Tress MacNeille, Frank Welker, Nancy Cartwright, Maurice LaMarche....they're likely somewhere in your favorite cartoon.

I get the feeling that animation, no matter where it's done or how its done, can be a close-knit group at times. You get a few talented people who can do a lot of voices (The Simpsons and The Muppets comes to mind), and you see less and less reason to look elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:00 am Reply with quote
I think I run into "those guys" every year at Otakon.

britannicamoore wrote:
...he corrected me in my pronoucation... and then gave me a Japanese lesson in the store. Which, he had btw taught himself...He then got dramatical...


Yeah, that sounds like them. The type of guy where I walk past a panel on kimonos or whatever and I overhear some dude say "it looks like she's wearing it correctly". Uh, you're a white kid from the suburbs, how do you know the "correct" way to wear it? Or the guy in the dealers room that wants to yell at people because they're going around a booth "the wrong way". People tend to bring up the smelly ones, but even they don't bother me as much as the smug, condescinding, smart-asses that think they know everything and that they can talk to and treat people any kind of way.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:58 am Reply with quote
I actually ran into "that GAL" at this comic book store once. She was overweight and had a pretty full mustache. All I did was ask if they had a particular volume of some manga series. In turn, she barely searched the shelf for the title, putting much more effort into rambling to me about anime and omigawd bishounen and basically being one of the most clingy, annoying people I've ever come across. She also wanted to exchange AIM screennames after just meeting me, seemingly so excited that she found a new friend! It was so overbearing and frightening, she basically drove me from the store. Anime cry

In other news, that bunny picture made me explode from cuteness. I can't breathe!
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Dragynstorm



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:21 am Reply with quote
Victor, you win for your mention of Birdy the Mighty. Oh man do I love that show and oh man am I excited for Decode. =3
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:26 am Reply with quote
Actually, I once did buy some brand-new R1 anime for $1 (99 cents to be exact). They were VHS tapes being disposed of as DVDs took over, and it was a sale at the ADV website. I got pretty much all of Bubblegum Crisis 2040 that way. Postage, however, was $1 per tape--more than the tapes themselves!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:02 am Reply with quote
dizzywulf wrote:

Wow...that is nuts. I wonder why she would just randomly ruin a book like that.

It sounds like the book was wrapped in plastic to prevent people from reading it in the store, and she wanted to counter this by removing the plastic. Cutting the book itself was probably accidental.
dizzywulf wrote:
I can't believe they didn't throw her out.

Hey, you don't mess with a gal carrying a razor.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:27 am Reply with quote
Big Hed-

I just don't like to wait. Plus, the times i've tried the first episode would get done, but episode 2 or 3 just found a host. I prefer to just stream from some quick, painless, and a little fuzzy. I don't need a perfect picture to watch a show (HD) as long as I can read the subs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:21 pm Reply with quote
While I think all of us have some trait that could fall into "That guy/girl" category, the biggest difference has to be self-awareness.

Sure, you might talk about how you like subs over dubs, but you realize that other people may have different opinions, and it's ok to have different opinions. That guy thinks anything that isn't in line with his thoughts is wrong, and he has to talk incessantly to convince you.

That girl at the con may yell at the top of her lungs looking for a "Free bishy hug," and isn't aware that there are other people around her who don't want to hear her yelling, don't care about bishies or hugs, or think that she's plain annoying.

Same thing with the hygiene-impaired people. They aren't self-aware of how they stink up a room because they haven't bathed in 4 days.

Or maybe I'm wrong and they know exactly how they are, but they don't care because they're inconsiderate bastards. One or the other.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:22 pm Reply with quote
Ah, the infamous anime burnout. Happened to me last year after watching too much crappy anime. I was able to recover by balancing anime out with other things like reading books and watching movies. And now I'm a hell of a lot pickier with my anime.

I not only have met "that guy," but he comes into my work place every Tuesday and Thursday, usually to bother me. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:03 pm Reply with quote
Kenotic wrote:
Something I was thinking of regarding English anime voice actors -- The US Animation scene is pretty similar.

Check out a number of the animated series through the years, there's a good chance you'll see a few names that pop up in near everything: Rob Paulsen, Tress MacNeille, Frank Welker, Nancy Cartwright, Maurice LaMarche....they're likely somewhere in your favorite cartoon.

I get the feeling that animation, no matter where it's done or how its done, can be a close-knit group at times. You get a few talented people who can do a lot of voices (The Simpsons and The Muppets comes to mind), and you see less and less reason to look elsewhere.


This recent Bob Bergen interview sheds some light in the life of voice acting:

Quote:

TZN: Do you think that there's much difference between the regular voice-over acting we think of, like being Porky Pig, versus, doing overdubbing or ADR (automated dialogue replacement or additional dialogue recording) for anime or for airline or broadcast movie retakes?

BERGEN: Well, acting is acting. It still has to be believable. The technique is different. With anime, with dubbing, you have to do several things at once. You have to read the line, match the sync, and act all at the same time. And quite often, the restrictions in anime that you have to fit the sync basically takes the acting freedom away from you. You have to act under their parameters.

TZN: How do those demands affect your performance?

BERGEN: The restrictions of staying in sync from somebody else's performance do hinder your creativity. You're not able to give the performance of what YOU would do, because you're limited to the parameters of matching sync. That said, you have to be a superb actor to be able to do that because you're not able to be as creatively free as you would in, say, an American animation. And I think anime actors are some of the best voice over actors out there because of this. The sad thing is that they're not paid for their expertise. They should be paid, I think, double what American animation pays because of all the restrictions and all the technical nuances that you have to perfect.


TZN: Do you think there's such a thing as voice actor typecasting?

BERGEN: Sure! There's also studio typecasting. "He does a lot of work for Disney. Well, we don't want him over at Hanna-Barbera." "Well, he does a lot of work for anime. We don't want him for animation...for American animation." Because people think, "Oh, this is what you do, and this is what you do well, so therefore you probably shouldn't or couldn't do anything else." This is also why a lot of anime actors have a difficult time breaking into American animation. Because the American animation people are saying, "Oh, we don't want that 'anime' sound." These people don't realize that anime recording is so specific, unique, and difficult to do that if you put a script in front of those actors, they can still act without having to dub.

But it's difficult. Once you get established in a certain area, it's very difficult to break out. It's like a soap opera actor. A guy in a soap opera who'd love to do a sitcom. "I'm sorry, but you're just a soap actor." Person on a sitcom trying to do a feature, "Well you're just a television actor." It's easier nowadays for TV actors to do movies, but you still get typecast. It's not just in voiceover, it's everywhere.
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