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| Banken Posts: 67 |
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| It's a lot easier to keep kids off porn sites when they don't have their own computers... I can't believe how naive some parents are. Simply keeping the family's PC in the open is infinitely more effective than parental controls.
Kids should not get their own PCs until they're at least in high school. |
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enurtsol Subscriber Posts: 1310 |
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| C'mon, Ludacris' "Runaway Love" has been playing all over the airwaves for a couple years already:
[Verse 3 - Ludacris] Little Erica is 11 years old She's steady trying to figure why the world is so cold So she pops x to get rid of all the pain Plus she's having sex with a boy who's 16 Emotions run deep and she thinks she's in love So there's no protection he's using no glove Never thinking 'bout the consequences of her actions Living for today and not tomorrow's satisfaction The days go by and her belly gets big The father bails out he ain't ready for a kid Knowing her mama will blow it all outta proportion Plus she lives poor so no money for abortion Erica is stuck up in the world on her own Forced to think that hell is a place called home Nothing else to do but get her clothes and pack She say she's about to run away and never come back. |
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| Ramadahl Posts: 323 Location: MK, UK |
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Haha, yeah, because people need to have sex explained to them to know how to do it  . To do it well maybe, but there's enough inbuilt to ensure that there'll be more people...
It's not exactly unheard of for younger kids to end up in sexual situations without them having a larger understanding of what they were really doing... they were "just playing". |
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| Banken Posts: 67 |
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| I think all kids do wierd ass stuff when they're young that they never, ever talk about ever again, but it's a pretty big stretch to go from...well, whatever, to a girl that age getting knocked up by someone who isn't several years older than she is (which happens in the vast majority of cases). | ||||||||||||
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| tebalith Posts: 134 |
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Yes, I was referring to the former. Anybody who is surprised to hear that an eleven-year-old can get pregnant is in serious need of education. (I thought my meaning was clear, also because I said "could get pregnant", referring to the... possibility of getting pregnant, not of actually getting pregnant. That wouldn't be weird, though. It'd be unfortunate and sad.) |
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| GATSU Posts: 8416 |
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| I think the issue isn't that it's an 11-year old girl, but the fact that the subject's discussed so casually. The Ludicrous song at least brings it up in a socially-relevant manner, but the manga seems to just present the idea as another form of entertainment. It makes you wonder how the Japanese can just accept the topic without batting an eye. | ||||||||||||
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| testorschoice Posts: 465 |
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Let's ignore this stereotypical jab at an entire nation--come on, Ludacris released his song and Juno got released in another nation where violators get executed several times every year. Besides that, the above statement is contradiction in terms: a girl who gets pregnant is, by definition, not prepubescent.
A key part of the manga is the importance of sex education classes at an early age, as well as the shared burden of early pregnancy on the family. How is that not socially relevant entertainment--like Ludacris's "Runaway Love" or Juno? Again, let's not be so quick to judge something without actually seeing it. |
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| GATSU Posts: 8416 |
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testor:
Legally speaking, you have to do what that guy did to get executed here, too. It's not enough to just rape them. And there's definitely been a backlash against Juno, but for different reasons. [Personally, I'd rather recommend Palindromes myself. That flick carries a more honesty and realism.]
Girls can get pregnant before they hit puberty, since the eggs are there since birth for survival purposes and such...(Hence why you'd see them get married at young ages in older cultures.) Guys obviously can't do anything before puberty, because we're wired for that "May the strongest survive" bs first and foremost.
Well, first off, Juno is only socially relevant to girls who've watched too many 80s shows, and who consider Jamie Lynn Spears to be a role-model. As for the latter theme you bring up, I'm not sure where you found it, since I don't see it in the summary, but my idea of socially relevant is finding some sort of motivation for her getting pregnant, since being ignorant doesn't count nowadays, even if you're home-schooled. |
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| enurtsolSubscriber Posts: 1310 |
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Well, not quite. All the eggs are already there at birth, but they aren't released until puberty. Actually, puberty often begins even before first menstruation. |
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| testorschoice Posts: 465 |
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Exactly. So why single out Japan with an over-generalized jab, when the same thing is happening in another nation?
Please look up the definition of puberty before misusing it.
Ignoring the off-topic jab on Juno... Again, it's in the manga, and again it leads back to the significance of sex education classes, as indicated in the manga. Again, please don't be so quick to judge something without actually seeing it. You know those people who rail against a movie or a song after reading just one news article? Please stop being one of them. |
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| enurtsolSubscriber Posts: 1310 |
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Heck, Japan has more trouble with sex education than even the US.  |
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| GATSU Posts: 8416 |
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enurtsol:
Just because they're not released doesn't mean they don't work. testor:
Well, it's kind of like if they chose to release Alive a few months after Jeffrey Dahmer got executed.
From wikipedia: "Puberty refers to the process of physical changes by which a child's body becomes an adult body capable of reproduction." Of course, as we established, girls' bodies do not need to become those of adults to reproduce. Hence why there is a manga about such a girl right now.
I'm not really railing, just commenting. The manga-ka and director can do whatever they want, for all I care. I'm just saying that the timing's in poor taste, but I imagine it'll survive unscathed. |
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| enurtsolSubscriber Posts: 1310 |
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The eggs aren't born mature. When the egg matures, it gets released from the ovary. Ergo, they won't work until they are released because they aren't mature yet.
Puberty, above all else, is about hormones. The hormones that start puberty eventually lead to the maturity of the ovary egg. The physical traits are just secondary characteristics. |
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| testorschoice Posts: 465 |
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Uh, Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't executed, but was sentenced to life in prison in 1992 and later killed by another prisoner. 1993 not only saw the release of Alive, but a movie about Dahmer. Anyways, this is the first time you mentioned that it's the cannibalism that's you got unnerved, after singling out "prepubescent" and pregnancy over and over again. By the way, the manga has nothing to do with cannibalism.
Uh, we know. We know she is in puberty. We know she's no different from the girls in Ludacris's song and Juno in this regard. However, you mistakenly singled this manga's girl as "prepubescent." By definition, a pregnant girl isn't.
Really, that's all you're saying? Please re-read your own first post today. By the way, they decided on the film's opening last year, long before the government decided to execute Tsutomu Miyazaki and announced the execution after the fact. |
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| GATSU Posts: 8416 |
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| enurtsol: Oh, alright, fair enough.
testor: Yeah, reading about his death made me think he was executed. My bad. Still, the movie and the sentence were a year apart. And they decided to shoot the movie last year, not to announce a date for it. |
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