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dormcat
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:20 pm

No fanservice whatsoever. Yeah right. Now, before you say "I ignore loli and assassins-dressed-as-maids but focus on other redeemable elements of the series instead," so would fans of TMoHS, and I can assure you some fans of CRS are attracted by its heavy use of maid uniforms.

HellKorn wrote:

@Mohawk52: If the series is pure moe-fodder like you suggest, than why has it taken off so strongly and appeal to those that hate moe (which includes me)?

How about Aiko Tanaka? I'd say that birdy thingie would disagree with you and think she's quite moe. Wink

HellKorn

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Location: Columbus, OH

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:08 pm

dormcat wrote:

How about Aiko Tanaka? I'd say that birdy thingie would disagree with you and think she's quite moe. Wink

Hush, you!

Seriously, though, maybe there are some other dimensions of moe that I'm ignorant of, but I'd like to think of that concept and "cute" and "amusing" to be different things. (Or, in Punpun's case, "beautiful" and "terrifying.")

I just tend to associate moe with direct pandering to instill a sense of parental protection (or something akin to it) in the reader/viewer by way of making the character(s) charming with archetypal anime quirks, yet not having much else in the way to define said character(s).

Really, "birdy thingie"? Punpun would be crushed.

Mohawk52

Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Location: Celebrating Lindsey Hawker murder suspect arrest, in Basingstoke, UK.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:13 pm

dormcat wrote:

stuff

Attacking my avatar again? Didn't we cover this last time? I thought I was getting senile in my old age. Rolling Eyes

Quark wrote:

Mohawk52 wrote:

I can remember people saying that about Deep Throat back in the 70's mate. Oh, and I can well imagine what's on your shelf as well. But you see I'm not a young teenage adolescent male who's yet to have his cherry popped. I'm a family man with two kids, two cars and a 4 bedroom house to pay off, so I have no need for cartoons to wank off to, as you might have assumed. In fact these things make my skin crawl.

Wow, you're just the king of baseless opinions, aren't you? I think when you start hurling personal attacks at people, which may very well not be true, you've lost your battle.

Speaking of "baseless opinions" I would be very grateful if you could point out where I made this so called "hurling" of "personal attacks"?

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Not only are you totally wrong about Haruhi, which is a very charming, fun, interesting, clever series, that just happens to have fanservice in it (but seriously, what anime nowadays doesn't?)

Far to many IMHO.

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but you are totally wrong about it's fans as well. I say this as a 20-something woman in a long-term relationship, who has gotten sweet lovin', and has never wanked off to Haruhi.
Why don't you go spend some time with your kids and your two cars, and stop arguing about some cartoon that you have deemed to be below you? Because, considering how much you seem to hate this show, you sure are devoting a lot of attention to it.

Now who's "hurling personal attacks" then? I'm only defending my opinion about TMoHS, which I have every right to under teh rules, and it would seem I am doing more dodging of bullets then firing them, but I assume you have read this entire thread to know that already? May your relationship be a long and happy one, and I sincerely mean that, however, perhaps I'm being a bit thick, but can you tell me what other purpose fanservice is for in anime like this?

HellKorn

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Location: Columbus, OH

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:35 pm

Mohawk, please answer my question on the previous page:

HellKorn wrote:

If the series is pure moe-fodder like you suggest, than why has it taken off so strongly and appeal to those that hate moe (which includes me)?

Quark

Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Posts: 332
Location: British Columbia, Canada

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:23 pm

Mohawk52 wrote:

Speaking of "baseless opinions" I would be very grateful if you could point out where I made this so called "hurling" of "personal attacks"?

I dunno, I consider calling someone a teenage virgin who whacks off to cartoons, just because he happens to enjoy a certain series, to qualify as a personal attack. It certainly isn't a flattering thing to accuse someone of being, at the very least.

Mohawk52 wrote:

I actually have read the entire thread. And you are right, you do have the right to have your opinion of Haruhi, but considering the fact that you've never actually seen it, maybe you shouldn't have decided to bash the show (and it's fans) the way you did. Like I said, you have every right to do so, but don't be surprised when people are going to react the way they did.
There are plenty of anime I won't watch, that I know I won't like, but if there's a discussion about the show, I would most likely stay out of it, because I don't really know anything about it. For example, I know I wouldn't like the series "Fist of the North Star" but I wouldn't go into a thread discussing it and say "This show is nothing but muscle bound men beating the snot out of each other and panders to over aggressive men with anger problems" For all I know, the show may be nothing like that. I could be totally wrong about it, simply because I've never actually watched it.
And hey, I'll admit, fan service is there for the sex appeal, pure and simple. People like to see cute girls in cute outfits. But just because a show has fanservice in it doesn't mean that's what the show is entirely about. And I think that's the case with Haruhi - it does have the fanservice there for people who enjoy it, but there is plenty of stuff in the series there for the people who don't.

dormcat
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Location: Hsinchu City, Taiwan, ROC

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:49 am

Mohawk52 wrote:

Attacking my avatar again? Didn't we cover this last time?

In fact you didn't. You replied, but you dodged the questions (mine and later calawain's, and now with HellKorn's).

Never mind then. I don't expect you giving me a direct and logical answer anyway (shrug).

Zac
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Joined: 05 Jan 2002
Posts: 4298
Location: Death Star Cocktail Lounge

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:27 am

dormcat wrote:

Never mind then. I don't expect you giving me a direct and logical answer anyway (shrug).

Hey guys this is exactly the sort of thing we asked you to stop doing months ago. Please knock it off, I don't care how high-minded you think you're being about it.

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