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snl67
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| dormcat wrote: | | snl67 wrote: | | The truth is it won't likely sell enough to support the cost of the dub. |
The truth is if a British-accented English dub is announced, sales of the Japanese-only R2JP DVD will drop dead. |
So you are saying the Japanese themselves would want this dubbed? If that is the case, why not have the R2 licensor do a dub and offer it on Blu-Ray? That could be played here as well as there, and I'd be willing to consider importing something like that. Anyway, I am not saying I won't end up buying the show, it just has to blow me away to consider it with no dub. |
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zanarkand princess
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:53 pm |
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I saw the first episode (on a newtype usa dvd) and I was surprised there was no dub I thought that a series set in england should have a dub but I got used to it half way though. I think that they figured it was a niche series so a dub wouldn't be needed. They might have been surprised that people loved it. I am in the minority here though It didn't blow me away even after seeing more episodes and even though I usually prefer an anime with a good story rather than robots fighting for no reason or annoying girls running after oblivious boys or the other way around I just couldn't get into this one. I found the character design a bit unappealing and I don't really like the story pacing (even though I am usually patient with that.) In the end I just didn't like it. 
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dormcat
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:12 pm |
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| snl67 wrote: | | So you are saying the Japanese themselves would want this dubbed? If that is the case, why not have the R2 licensor do a dub and offer it on Blu-Ray? That could be played here as well as there, and I'd be willing to consider importing something like that. |
They might consider releasing a Blu-ray with English dub -- after the first press DVDs have run out their life cycles. |
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Neverwhere
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:05 am |
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You know how you can tell a series is really special? When your anime-hating mother can't wait for the next installment. ;- )
Emma is such a fantastic manga and anime series, the characters are so charming and special, it can ensnare even the most dubious non-fans. It's not just a wonderful anime series, it's a wonderful series, period. 
It's absolutely worth the price, dub or no. Please support this delightful little show. I know you'll love it. Buy it just to meet Hakim! He's AWESOME.  |
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indrik
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:15 am |
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You know, but that's my gripe about the dub. I understand the economic argument, and the reverse importation argument, and etc., but I could get probably half a dozen people to watch this who would never watch animated anything... if it were in English. The people who like, went out of their way to find Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon dubbed.
O'well. I still like it. |
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Ctimene's Lover
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:30 pm |
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| Baccano is set in Depression era New York and Emma is set in 1880s England. Not getting on the dub vs. sub debate, sometimes it seems the essence of an anime show set in America or England can be enhanced by using the dubbed version of the English in that time frame. Understandable 1880s English may be hard for an American dub but if they used Manga UK's dubbing pool, it may be different. |
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CuteyHoney
Joined: 01 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:34 am |
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| jsevakis wrote: | | Hear, hear! (clink!) |
I third that! |
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luisedgarf
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:16 am |
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| Ctimene's Lover wrote: | | Understandable 1880s English may be hard for an American dub but if they used Manga UK's dubbing pool, it may be different. |
NO Anime company (or whatever company who distributes foreign stuff into English) are going to use British voice actors to dub ANYTHING. (Maybe Canadian VAs, like Ocean Studios) but almost anybody that I know agree that British voice acting really sucks (and I agree with that, after seeing those badly dubbed anime like Angel Cop) |
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Moomintroll
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:37 am |
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| luisedgarf wrote: | | NO Anime company (or whatever company who distributes foreign stuff into English) are going to use British voice actors to dub ANYTHING. (Maybe Canadian VAs, like Ocean Studios) but almost anybody that I know agree that British voice acting really sucks (and I agree with that, after seeing those badly dubbed anime like Angel Cop) |
Given that the likes of Disney, Pixar and DreamWorks all use British voice actors regularly (and that there are vast numbers of British actors working in non-theatrical animation and in radio plays), I presume that what you meant to say was that no anime company is going to use the same pool of voice actors that Manga UK was using in the 1990s. |
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Tenar
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:25 am |
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For me, no dub = no sale.
I'm really disappointed. I bought every one of the Emma manga. I loved the manga. But without a dub I won't buy the series on dvd. |
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Miitan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:25 pm |
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| Tenar wrote: | For me, no dub = no sale.
I'm really disappointed. I bought every one of the Emma manga. I didn't really like the manga. Without a dub I won't buy the series on dvd. |
FTFY.
Because seriously, you can't have liked it that much if you're not going to buy it just because it doesn't have a dub. |
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lostinagoodbook
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| marie-antoinette wrote: | | Quote: | | Dickens, Austen and Bronte being my three favorite authors, this is right up my alley, but don't let the time period scare you. This is just plain lovely. |
Which Bronte? There were three of them, after all (though chances are pretty good it's not Anne).
And yes, Jane Austen died twenty years too early to be Victorian. |
Actually it's Charlotte Bronte, and though I've read the books by Anne and Emily as well, (and enjoyed Agnes Grey) there's no beating Jane Eyre for me.
Never said Jane Austen was a Victorian, but for clarity's sake I declare my post includes Victorian, Georgian and Edwardian authors.  |
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Zac
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:03 pm |
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| luisedgarf wrote: |
NO Anime company (or whatever company who distributes foreign stuff into English) are going to use British voice actors to dub ANYTHING. (Maybe Canadian VAs, like Ocean Studios) but almost anybody that I know agree that British voice acting really sucks (and I agree with that, after seeing those badly dubbed anime like Angel Cop) |
About half of the English-language cast for Hellsing are British actors.
Research, people. |
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kaizen-dono
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| Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:01 pm |
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| most Brits can't really help sounding cheesy when their putting on american accents. |
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shawnek
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:10 am |
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| Quote: | My biggest issue was the dishonesty by Right Stuf when they licensed it in there reason for not dubbing it. I think most fans would prefer the truth up front whether they agree with the decision or not. (As I recall, they originally said they "might" do one later if they could find the right cast of British accents/voices. The truth is it won't likely sell enough to support the cost of the dub.)
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This is not what I said at all. I stated that we didn't feel that it would support the cost of a dub, and on top of that, if we were to do a dub, we'd want it to be authentic, which would increase the cost even more.
This quote was taken out of context at the time and I have never waivered from what I originally stated - that this show would probably not have the reach necessary to support the cost of the dubbing and remain profitable. |
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