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NEWS: Japanese Man Arrested for Pirated Anime DVD Auctions

jsevakis wrote:

Free market economies dictate that prices are set by the amount people are willing to pay for them. But never mind, let's excuse all piracy because people on the internet from another country think it's too much money.

Would you pay $500 for a series box set?

Would you pay $500 for a series box set?

It does help.I think over time we will start to see more reports like this,over there and over here in NA.

I think one of the things about Japan is that since it is quite a bit smaller than us land wise, news gets around to more places in Japan than it does over here.

It's just too sad to have to see the law wasting their time (and our money) punishing such passive crimes, really.

"There're always going to be people who think differently than others, and questioning their beliefs or proving them wrong doesn't really help."

Sounds like the classic defense "don't push your beliefs on me". Of course, saying that phrase itself is hypocritical, as you just made yourself guilty of doing the very deed.

I don't think I should have to, since I felt I only overly-exaggerated the guy's opinion, not attack him directly by calling him an idiot or something

But I seriously hope you don't expect anyone else to apologize, my comment was the only one that was possibly crossing the line.

enurtsol wrote:

SeinenAi wrote: However, look at the original price of the box sets he was pirating...uh, who is the criminal exactly? It probably costs like $5 to make, and they sell it for $500? Come. On. Ps. I am not saying the guy was right to sell it, but maybe people wouldn't have bought from him if the prices were a little less insane! You're not paying for how much it costs to make the physical media; you're paying for how much it costs to create the contents that goes into the media.

Ok so like...$10...$15 then.

Another thing I must add is that, a lot of people are expressing how much they hate piracy or how wrong they think it is, but I bet you half of them have purchased something pirated at least once in their whole lives.

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"There're always going to be people who think differently than others, and questioning their beliefs or proving them wrong doesn't really help." Sounds like the classic defense "don't push your beliefs on me". Of course, saying that phrase itself is hypocritical, as you just made yourself guilty of doing the very deed.

What are you talking about? My point was that you should let him say what he wants, and not attack his opinion the way you did.

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But I seriously hope you don't expect anyone else to apologize, my comment was the only one that was possibly crossing the line.

Truthfully, I wasn't really going to comment until I saw your response. Onso is a close friend of mine [Yes, I know him personally]. He's a really REALLY sweet guy [I treat him like a kid brother even though we're the same age]. And I guess knowing him personally, added up to my frustration in seeing what you said as well. I am guilty in assuming that everyone else's comments were as bad as yours was.

SeinenAi wrote:

enurtsol wrote: SeinenAi wrote: However, look at the original price of the box sets he was pirating...uh, who is the criminal exactly? It probably costs like $5 to make, and they sell it for $500? Come. On. Ps. I am not saying the guy was right to sell it, but maybe people wouldn't have bought from him if the prices were a little less insane! You're not paying for how much it costs to make the physical media; you're paying for how much it costs to create the contents that goes into the media. Ok so like...$10...$15 then.

Yeah, pretty much; that's how much it's worth to you. The rest of the market also have their own worths. In economic terms, it's "value." People place different values on things, like how much you want to outbid for an auction. To many Dragonball fans, it's worth it. And I'm sure there's stuff you have that they aren't willing to pay the price you paid for.

The trick for the producers is to set a price that makes a profit by how much the market values it. If enough people don't buy at that price (the value is low), then they have to lower the price - or of course, vice versa. So, if you don't think it's worth it to you, then don't buy it. If enough people do the same, then price lowering is forthcoming. But if enough people pay the price, then you're just outbid and out of luck - the market didn't agree with you.

Only by accident, I was a noobie 2 years ago, and didn't know "FX" was a major bootlegger. Since then, that FMA OST 1 case is used as a coaster, the actual disc is in the garbage, and the genuine release was bought recently. Edit: But really, that just gives me all the more reason to hate piracy. $15 is too much for a coaster!

If one of my buddies suddenly dropped a bomb like Onso did (and did nothing to further reinforce why he feels that way), you bet there would be similar reactions like this thread had. It's just a natural reaction.

Ha, me and my buddy Onso [Don't think I should reveal his real name. Kinda feels awkward calling him Onso though ] watch Avatar and we had different opinions concerning the finale. He says it's perfect an absolute win, but I said it sucked because there're many loose ends left unanswered. The conversation was never resolved because we both just shrugged and left it alone. I hate to admit it, but I guess we're both kinda stubborn [especially me].

jsevakis wrote:

Free market economies dictate that prices are set by the amount people are willing to pay for them. But never mind, let's excuse all piracy because people on the internet from another country think it's too much money.

Would you pay $500 for a series box set?