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Dargonxtc



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:57 pm Reply with quote
I wonder if members will have to pay more if they come forward? I would think not.
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Tofusensei



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:12 pm Reply with quote
They really can't posthumously ask for any more money from his victims Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:20 pm Reply with quote
I was wondering why my badge had He-Man on it.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:49 pm Reply with quote
I wonder how they figured out which ones were fraud, too.
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kokuryu



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:11 pm Reply with quote
Hmmm, I have to double-check my messages, I think I got something for this thru MySpace...

Maybe he was giving out discounts to his friends or something like that...
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Viga_of_stars



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Wouldn't the copies be obvious based on the way they could have been crafted. Or maybe he just stole passes and sold them?

Either way, he's done.
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se37
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:53 pm Reply with quote
With how they "checked" the badges this year I don't think anybody would have noticed they were fake. After all, a few baseball fans (a baseball game was going on at the time in Baltimore) got into the Dealers Room a few times because they really didn't check the badges. I remember that was one thing I didn't like this year was they didn't seem to really notice the badges that much.

Not only that, he worked for Otakon so he would have had access to the real badges and make copies of them and sell them himself.
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jvowles
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:00 pm Reply with quote
I can't say too much more, but it seems clear that he actually used legit convention badge materials. And that people who bought badges in good faith are not being penalized by us. Though, since we lack their membership information, they can't be entered into the member database, which means they won't be able to take advantage of other member perks or to renew their membership next year. If they come forward, we get a better idea of the extent of his actions, and we can legitimize their memberships. Everyone (who deserves to) wins.

I suppose it's inevitable that something like this would happen sooner or later, but it's extremely disappointing. And there are several staffers who are understandably livid about the whole thing.

But yes, either way, he's done.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 pm Reply with quote
jvowles wrote:
I can't say too much more, but it seems clear that he actually used legit convention badge materials. And that people who bought badges in good faith are not being penalized by us. Though, since we lack their membership information, they can't be entered into the member database, which means they won't be able to take advantage of other member perks or to renew their membership next year.


Blessing in disguise. Seriously, that renewal form on the website is such a piece of shit. I tried to pre-reg twice seperate times, got the little confirmation e-mail each time, and when I got through the traditional line from hell Thursday, they checked the database and told me I had renewed three different times and none of them had been "completed"- meaning they knew I had told them three times that I was interested in attending, and yet they couldn't give me my badge because the system was broke. They told me to wait on ANOTHER line to speak to "Registration Issues", or whatever it was called, but I knew where that was going- 5-10 minutes of some unappreciated gofer fiddling with a keyboard trying to understand what's going on, then a shrug and a "I'm sorry, I can't help you." I wound up having to pay the on-site rate.

*ahem*

Sorry, little rant there... Uh, good convention otherwise, though.
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PatrickD



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:25 pm Reply with quote
jvowles wrote:
But yes, either way, he's done.

I'm glad that you published his name. It should be helpful to any other convention he applies to since hopefully they'll at least do a Google search on their new applicant. I suspect this is something they'd definitely want to take into consideration when reviewing the application.
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Sariachan



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:18 pm Reply with quote
jvowles wrote:
I can't say too much more, but it seems clear that he actually used legit convention badge materials. And that people who bought badges in good faith are not being penalized by us. Though, since we lack their membership information, they can't be entered into the member database, which means they won't be able to take advantage of other member perks or to renew their membership next year. If they come forward, we get a better idea of the extent of his actions, and we can legitimize their memberships. Everyone (who deserves to) wins.

I suppose it's inevitable that something like this would happen sooner or later, but it's extremely disappointing. And there are several staffers who are understandably livid about the whole thing.

But yes, either way, he's done.

Is this con the same as the one in which happened all that drama about the Artists Alley?
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GregZor



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:37 pm Reply with quote
It's terrible that they posted his name just because he allegedly did something maybe illegal.

I hope he sues for defamation.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:39 pm Reply with quote
GregZor wrote:
It's terrible that they posted his name just because he allegedly did something maybe illegal.

I hope he sues for defamation.


For ripping off people by selling fake badges? No sympathy. Actually, I can't see how ANYONE would have sympathy, unless... are you the guy in question? 0_o
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:50 pm Reply with quote
GregZor wrote:
It's terrible that they posted his name just because he allegedly did something maybe illegal.

I hope he sues for defamation.

His name is Geoff Beebe. There, I've said it. His name will now be available on the forums for everybody to see who hasn't read the article. I can't wait to get the call saying that somebody wants to drag my ass into court.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:09 pm Reply with quote
Otakon's long gone and a memory now. I fail to see the point in all of this.

What membership perks are actually being missed by those with the other badges?

Is Otakon after reimbursement from the badge holders?

And if this guy does turn out to be innocent, I hope he sues their butts off.
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