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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:35 am Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
A wedding is (hopefully) something that happens to you only once, so blowing it on a gimmick seems like a terribly stupid idea to me. I can't imagine being enough of a geek that I could look back at a video game-themed wedding with pride in a few decades time.


I don't know, you could apply that logic the other way as well. Why not do something really out there? Why "waste it" by doing the exact same generic thing that everybody else does? If both people are in agreement, why not do what you want? Even if it's ridiculously nerdy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:50 am Reply with quote
Roy9076 wrote:

About the porn actors/actresses in hentai, all I have to say to that is...
THE MORE YOU KNOW!!

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Japanese sometimes use the same regular seiyuu for their H titles.
Wouldn't it just be standard for the American dubbers to do the same? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:19 am Reply with quote
I don't think a cosplay-themed wedding is a necessarily bad idea, although I probably wouldn't have one like in the pic (I personally think that's a bit too much). Maybe a little inspiration from anime/video games (I've seen some nice dresses in CLAMP series I've watched) wouldn't be so bad.

I've seen a lot of kids cosplay in cons before, but I rarely see one having fun. There's this kid who I always see, she usually goes as some mahou shoujo character, and she's usually a hit with the con goers, but she always looks so sad and tired. I'm not sure, but I think that her parents are not even anime fans at all, and that they're just making her cosplay so they could join her in the competitions and get the cash prizes (yes, we have cosplay competitions here). I certainly hope that's not the case.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:24 am Reply with quote
I like how some people think a "good" anime should cost less to buy than a "bad" one, somehow. Saying you'd pay more for an anime you like is the same as saying that you can already tell every time whether you're going to like it or not. That isn't how capitalism works. Whether you'd rather pay more for a title you enjoy, as far as the market's concerned, all titles can, will, and should be treated as though they're equally as good. Because there are those things called "opinions" by which some folk might value The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya more than Death Note or perhaps Shin Chan more than Strawberry Panic. As much as I'd enjoy a market that revolved around my personal tastes, I'd much rather have a fair one. (Well, fairer than one ruled by my tastes, anyway.)

On the subject of raising kids in fandom, I'd rather people not drag their children into their hobbies and tastes. If the child enjoys it, fine, but it really seems unnecessary. Let them develop their own tastes. Also, as soon as you have a child, you no longer get to be one.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:49 am Reply with quote
britannicamoore wrote:
...but still. i think i'd love to go to a cosplay wedding. It's your day celebrate it as you want.


Agreed. People might think it's goofy, but it's that couple's special day and if they want to do something like that, why should people imply they are less competent than people who follow the typical Christian or courthouse set-ups? At the end of the day, it's the couple's business anyway.

As for raising a child "in the fandom" and forcing them to cosplay, again it's there business, but I will say I don't think it's good to drag some child through your interests. As others have said, let them develop their own. Kids I see at cons look like they're having fun for awhile, but I'm sure they get tired so quick.

But I do think a con could be a good get-away weekend for two parents who still have the desire to go once in awhile.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:42 am Reply with quote
I honestly don't see what the big deal about this Zelda wedding is. Considering how popular Renaissance Weddings are where the Bride and Groom dress up in costume what is the difference?

They are just doing something they both enjoy and it's their wedding day. I don't think they should be judged for that. It wouldn't be my first choice for my wedding but the point is it is not my wedding.

I also don't see how there is anything wrong with sharing your fandom with your kid. When a child is young they usually do take from their parents likes and dislikes. I ended up loving the Beatles because of my dad and musicals because of my mom. As kids get older they are more influenced by their peers. This is all very natural. But a parent being enthusiastic about anime in front of their kids is not going to ruin them.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:35 am Reply with quote
Well, for that person interested in Harlock, the 1984, Arcadia of My Youth TV Series was released on DVD in French in Canada by Imavision.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:04 am Reply with quote
Zelda shmelda as far as I am concerned all traditional weddings are cosplay events. Who wears those outfits in real life? How many women wear their wedding dress again after the wedding? And what about those bride’s maids’ outfits? At least the guys, if they didn’t rent them may someday wear the suite/Tux somewhere.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:40 am Reply with quote
Detail on the US porn industry.

It is not only almost all in California but almost all in that conservative stronghold the San Fernando Valley. The trade journals cite figures of over 10,000 videos a year made in that area alone. Must be alot of low budget garbage.

Whenever anyone talks about anime being porn I cite that stat.

Personally I don't know why most porn operations are not shut down by anti-prostitution law, after all people are getting pad to do stuff that would be illegal without a camera involved.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:51 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
In the meantime, how about those regular Japanese couples who do Christian theme weddings in a fake church with a fake blond blue-eyed Caucasian J.E.T. for an ordained priest, complete with gorgeous wedding gown walking down the aisle in a flurry of flowers and throwing the bouquet and everything?

I suppose I'm fine with those, so long as there's cake.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:52 am Reply with quote
To me, Zelda is as real as any religion, so what's the difference. At least they probably consciously chose to love Zelda instead of going along with it because they were raised to like it. Sorry, had to give the bitter anti-religious response. I personally would never cosplay at a wedding (it would be a surreal experience for a lot of your guests), but whatever. Maybe their love of Zelda was what brought them together originally, and I wish more people got together out of similar interests instead of the host of stupid reasons people often get married for.

As for getting your kids into anime, I think Answerman attacked this from the wrong angle. His answer about Spongebob, High School Musical 3, and Haruhi presupposes that American kids shows and all anime are pretty much interchangeable. Well, they aren't. Instead of Haruhi, howabout we pick an anime that has a more involved or deep storyline. Assuming it is age appropriate, I'd rather have my child watching a meaningful anime, than an American kids show, because there really aren't that many meaningful American kids shows. It's the same reason I'd rather have my kids reading good books. If my children are consuming fiction that makes them think, they are more likely to be thoughtful people. Now, I know there is a ton of crap anime, but the gems of anime (I'm not naming any specifics because I don't want to turn this into a debate about whether you love the same shows as me) don't really have many American kid show equivalents.

However, there is a danger to this. We have to be realistic. If you raise a kid on good anime, he likes it, and starts not watching American stuff, he runs the risk of becoming alienated from most of his pee
rs. I have some personal experience with this. I got into epic fantasy around 6th grade. My parents, salt of the earth folk not geeks, let me have whatever hobbies I wanted. Finding fantasy and books in
general a lot more interesting than any of the TV, movies, or music my peers were enjoying, I suddenly found it hard to have conversations with people about the things I loved as most kids weren't reading the (at the time) 5,000 page Wheel of Time series. I STILL find it incredibly frustrating to this day (23 now) as I still don't like most of pop culture, as it just seems inferior to all the good quality TV, movies, books, and music I know about now. If you raise your kid on non-mainstream stuff, they may not have a frame of reference with which to talk to their peers. Of course, it also lets you stand outside the norm and see people's bullshit more easily. End of anecdotal evidence.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:38 am Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Fronzel wrote:
Drew Boucer wrote:
I would pay 60 dollars for Gunbuster, but not even half as much for Ninja Nonsense, eveh Nonsense has 20 more episodes.

No, it doesn't; Ninja Nonsese is a half-length series (and also awesome, but I won't get into that).


A wedding is (hopefully) something that happens to you only once, so blowing it on a gimmick seems like a terribly stupid idea to me. I can't imagine being enough of a geek that I could look back at a video game-themed wedding with pride in a few decades time.

Do Japanese geeks ever have bizare theme weddings? Or don't they ever get married? Social isolation is certainly the sterotype.


Once? What bizarro planet are you from? You can keep getting married and divorced for as long as you want, so long as you have the money and the patience. Sure, maybe a first marriage only happens once, but considering the divorce rate, I doubt it really matters what the wedding was like when they're yelling over who gets the silverware.

As far as otaku, dude, they don't even speak to women unless those women are also otaku. And even then, they'd rather not spend their paychecks paying for dinner and a movie when that new Moetan fig is coming out, the one where you can totally see her panties, oh and the limited 5th time re-release edition of X BS harem comedy #59854. Otaku don't get married or even date. They're a lost cause and Japan resents their existence.


Hmmm....I always say to each his/her own, but I could never imagine having a cosplay wedding. It's a big day, and to me, mine was for family and friends to be with us as well and enjoy the event,otherwise we could have gone to vegas or a courthouse. Our families wouldn't know what to do if we would have shown up in Zelda(or any other) costumes. Smile

I hope at least some Otakus grow up or mature emotionally...I've known some geeky peeps who have managed to eventually get a girl or two, get married, have non-geeky friends/dates, etc....to not have such a solitary life...just no cosplay weddings I say...lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:56 am Reply with quote
Yaoi is popular?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:11 am Reply with quote
skaly wrote:
Yaoi is popular?


I take it you've never been to a convention.....

Anyway, I question as to what constitutes as "forcing onto your children". Sure, overly-pressuring them into watching what you want to watch is over-the-line as far as I'm concerned, but what about music? I generally listen to movie/anime/TV show scores/soundtracks while driving. Now, when I was a kid, my parents had control of the radio, and that was that. Their argument was, "when you start driving, you get the radio". Fair enough. And because of that, I see no reason why I should treat my kids (if I ever have any, let's get a girlfriend first, and take each step at a time Wink ) any different. Whatever I (or my spouse) wants to listen to will be played. But would that be considered "forcing" it on them? Confused

Note: though if they're like me, they'll hate what I enjoy anyway, since I've come to hate everything my dad likes: watching sports, most classical rock/Oldies (with some exceptions like Queen, Journey, etc.), etc. I don't know if he forced sports on me when I was a kid, it was probably more of a "do what dad does" kind of mentality. Then I got to be a teenager, and I realized I was more interested in fiction of any format than watching total strangers toss a ball around (no offense to the sports fans. I do enjoy sports movies, but that's because you actually care about the players involved). My mom never had issues with this, but sometimes I think my dad thinks I'm kinda weird (he did catch me watching Beck though, and thought the music was cool. He also caught a glimpse of Samurai Champloo and he said he though that was some impressive detail to the animation).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:18 am Reply with quote
It is true that a lot of older anime will never get released here in the USA. I believe that the anime companies think that there is not really a big enough audience for it. They probably base this off that the majority of your anime fans nowdays are more into the newer anime shows and/or know more about the newer anime shows.

I've been watching anime now for over 30 years, and collecting it (on and off) since I was in High school. I've been a huge Captain Harlock fan since I was a child. I own a fan sub of it that I got from another person who copied it from vhs to dvd-r. I myself would not want to pay a high price for a R2 dvd set.

If the older shows don't get released here I'll either wait for a raw, or a fansubbed version to be released on the internet(watch it on the computer), or either go visit my local Japanese video store and ask them to get it. Or if they already have it, then rent it.

I do prefer though to own a show on R1 dvd, since this does support our anime companies.



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