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RyanSaotome
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Even Tiger and Bunny is aimed at otaku... just the female type. Only the diehard anime fans are going to be paying 90 bucks for 3 episodes. Plus stuff like Rapunzel and Cars only sold for 30-40 dollars since they are aimed at the casuals, so I wouldn't take their higher sales to mean much. |
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Speaking of which, the winter season has 3 shows aimed squarely at fujoshi (Brave 10, Inuboku, Natsume 4) And interestingly there's only 1 really ecchi show (Highschool DxD) with perhaps I'm your father being another .. yet people complain about how the seasons are all filled with them |
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Anymouse
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There may be several good or at least original shows this season.
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crosswithyou
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I'm surprised anyone can say Natsume is aimed at fujoshi....... You obviously have never seen the series. |
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RyanSaotome
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Actually, it totally is. Any fujoshi anime has many more DVD sales (for whatever reason, women in Japan aren't into BDs), and Natsume is very DVD heavy with its sales. Thats the #1 way to see which gender something is aimed at. Male Otaku stuff (like Madoka and Infinite Stratos) is typically like 80-90% BD while Natsumes 3rd season was 40-50% BD |
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Vaisaga
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Well, one could argue that any anime focusing on a handsome young man is aimed at fujoshi.
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maaya
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aimed at fujoshi and aimed at girls is quite a difference though.
Tiger & Bunny was aimed at a mainstream audience. Sure, it is popular with Fujoshi, but so are Naruto and One Piece. |
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amagee
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Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't call Madoka "otaku stuff" though Infinite Stratos oozes otaku goo. I find the BD vs DVD - Male vs. Female purchasing trends to be surprising. |
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Vaisaga
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How are cutesy underaged magic girls not 'otaku stuff'? The marketing and merchandise are also all otaku aimed. That said, it's hardly a bad thing. Some people seem to throw around the term "otaku aimed" like it's some sort of insult and that some how by boycotting such shows they are better than everyone else. Well if liking shows with reused ideas, 'moe', and fanservice makes me inferior, oh well. At least I'm having loads of fun 
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amagee
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The fact that Madoka was an artsy, darker take on a typically stupid genre (I'm not a magical girl fan on almost every other occasion) would make me separate it from typical "otaku aimed" fair. I would see it as rather a kind of physical manifestation of a commentary on how these typically inane shows can really have depth, proper emotional impact, and impeccable art when well thought out and carefully produced. You make a fair point, though, that the term, "otaku aimed", does probably have a more harsh connotation than it should in this particular case of me using it as a reaction to your response. I tend to lean away from the use of "otaku" as a term of of endearment among American fans (my friends and I never got into this trend when it was more popular) and more along the original Japanese ideal of "otaku" being a little crazy about stuff. I think this has led to me using it too crudely when other words would probably get my idea across better. Still, something like the Madoka program itself, which I have shown to non-anime fans (all but one of which have loved it), in my opinion, rises above any "otaku" moniker that one could ascribe to it. |
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maaya
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I hope so, too. It's weird that this comes out directly after Bunny Drop, but I hope it will have a similar atmosphere. Btw, the title is "Recorder to Ransel (-> school satchel)" (or Rekoodaa to Randoseru if you prefer).
I don't even remember when was the last time I got excited about an anime series in advance ... mmh ... Erin I guess (because of the novels it's based on). Next time probably won't be until Guardian of the Darkness is finally announced 
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timesteel
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Hey and Highschool DxD isn't even that bad I know alot of people changed their views about the show after reading the first light novel. It isn't alot like any other harem series for one the main character actually wants a harem and is a total perv(not unlike sugisaki ken) and the girls actually like him lol. But all that aside it's similar to kore wa zombie desuka (even though this series is older) and is actually pretty entertaining. |
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Vaisaga
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While I'd argue Madoka's depth and how cross market appeal doesn't change the original target audience, I will agree that it's a good example of how something that looks like "otaku pandering crap" can be so much more. |
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TitanManTheMan
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You're so ignorant it hurts. Did you happen to notice those are DVDBD COMBO packs? As in not BD-only?  You think that might have one thing to do with it?
How about those are two movies, which are far less of an investment than a 13/26 episode series. Movies always sell better. MIyazaki's sales put those two movies sales to shame. Movie market is waaaay different than TV market, bro. Japan doesn't make as many movies as the US, so Hollywood is kind of the big player. When it comes to TV though, American cartoons don't even come close  Sorry to burst your anti-Japanese bubble.'
The fact Gundam sold the same amount on BD only is amazing and what people should really point out, and Gundam is as otaku as it gets. Do some research before you talk again, kay? |
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RyanSaotome
Posts: 4210 Location: Towson, Maryland |
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The problem here is that you are assuming all otaku anime is instantly bad. Just because its aimed at otaku first and foremost doesn't mean that its bad... there is both bad and good otaku anime. Just like there is both good and bad anime aimed at the mainstream audience. But when it comes down to it, Madoka was aimed at the otaku audience. Its got cute underage magical girls, all kinds of merchandise like body pillows and beach figurines, and there is nothing made this year that has had more doujins. Otaku stuff is the only kind of anime that can sell as many copies as Madoka did as well, since the more casual fans aren't willing to dish out 80 dollars for 2 episodes. |
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