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frentymon
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| I was looking through the guide, and noticed that Casey's review of ef is missing. Was it forgotten to be put in? |
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Zac
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:44 pm |
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| frentymon wrote: | | I was looking through the guide, and noticed that Casey's review of ef is missing. Was it forgotten to be put in? |
Check again, it's there now. |
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Twilightmaster
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:44 pm |
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In it's defense, Tales of the Abyss kinda does the exact same thing in the game that it's doing in the Anime, which is not explaining a whole lot. I guess that's not really a good defense, but it took several hours of gameplay before various parts of the story were more thoroughly explained.
I guess, I'm basically saying it's not new if you're lost trying to watch the show, it wouldn't have been any better if you were playing it instead. |
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HitokiriShadow
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:01 pm |
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Shikabane Hime Aka didn't impress me. For a show about an undead girl killing other undead creatures, it was incredibly dull.
Ga-Rei-Zero just wasn't clicking for me for most of the episode, probably for the reasons Carlos mentioned. It felt like it was trying too hard to do too much. However, the last minute or two grabbed me (though the censoring was obnoxious) and I'm curious to see where the series will go with this. I'm hoping they don't just make it all a dream or a simulation; I'm not sure how else they can continue from that ending, but I'd like to see them try. |
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Case
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:03 pm |
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| Carlos wrote: | | Peculiar as it may seem, Ga-Rei -Zero- is one of those examples where it does everything right on paper—solid story concept, decent set of characters, polished animation and music—but the creative soul of the series never shines through. The premise is easy enough to understand: in modern-day Japan, the Supernatural Disaster Prevention Agency is tasked with keeping the peace when malevolent spirits run wild. |
This statement sparked a certain realization in me: Has there ever been an anime of this vein that's really been successful? There have been a number of anime over the years that bring together the same very general elements: Ranging from Silent Mobius to Blue Seed to Karas to Ergo Proxy to Rental Magica...
Is there anything of this nature that really made an impact? I can't think of one. |
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Ligene
Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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Location: Mary-land!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:06 pm |
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| Twilightmaster wrote: | In it's defense, Tales of the Abyss kinda does the exact same thing in the game that it's doing in the Anime, which is not explaining a whole lot. I guess that's not really a good defense, but it took several hours of gameplay before various parts of the story were more thoroughly explained.
I guess, I'm basically saying it's not new if you're lost trying to watch the show, it wouldn't have been any better if you were playing it instead. |
Since they're sticking close to the source material, it's not a surprise. It's probably supposed to make you want to watch it and find out - it's no fun if they throw everything at you in the beginning.
Not sure if that's actually the case, though, since the majority of the people watching it are the one's who played the game. |
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sunflower
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:31 pm |
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I'm really split on Ga-Rei –Zero–. I watched the first three-fourths of it and was rolling my eyes. I mean, they couldn't think of a better weapon for the girl than a motorcycle with scriptures on the tires? What happens in a couple thousand miles when you get treadwear?
So it was kind of a lame monster of the week sort of thing. Then the last five minutes blew me away. Completely. I absolutely have to see episode two now.
Despite the lousy beginning, I guess I'm more with Casey on this one, simply because they hooked me. |
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zanarkand princess
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:46 pm |
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| yeah ga-rei -zero- was totally dull after the first fight scene but the end was great I would love to see them make this the great show it has the potential to be. |
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Uthred
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:25 pm |
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Not a comment on the previews in particular, which while I often disagree with them I like them as they let you know whats out there, rather on the odd attitude being expressed in some posts. A lot of people seem to be writing off entire series' based purely on a single episode, which I find a little odd, what your doing is judging an entire series based on exposure to ~7-3% of its total content. And thats overall content, depending on its plot strucutre and delivery it could be an even smaller percentage of actual story.
It just seems bizarre to me, if people were paying to see these things I suppose it would make a little more sense. But considering most people are downloading them as fansubs and thus their investment consists of two or three clicks and some harddrive space it makes no sense to me.
If your interested in something don't you owe it to yourself to give it a fair chance? No real point to this, just a random observation about the odd behaviour of internet based anime fans, which means its about as useful as pissining in the wind 
Edit: Oh after reading the updated reviews I thought I'd throw out an on-topic comment. I personally don't see the usefullness of comments about how creators of genre pieces in "tired genres" need to come up with something new. Clearly the don't have to come up with something new as evidenced by the output of so many by-the-numbers genre pieces - the reason they keep coming out is because they keep selling. While I like things with a novel spin as much as the next person it seems disingenuous to conceal ones own jaded perceptions behind the facade of "telling it like it is". |
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Vortextk
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:44 pm |
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People EAT UP Segal and Van Damme movies at blockbuster, does this mean their material is fun and fresh? Original? Creative?
No. Just because they KEEP churning out ridiculous crap anime # 2387 and people continue to love it/buy it doesn't mean it couldn't be done a whole lot better.
(New Segal movie came out yesterday for you fans! He's a super violent cops who takes out bad guys on tough streets, oh my! And yes thats the description I got from the box, para phrased) |
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idrisfynn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:00 pm |
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I'm happy to see good reviews for Kuroshitsuji, a few reviews for Switch and I'll be set.
I'm fine with some shows getting negative reviews off of one episode, it helps me narrow down what I'm going to watch in the limited time I have for anime. I've been watching anime since the late 70s so I appreciate reviewers who can save me from spending time on poorly done cliche #482. If I have more time later I can always swing back around and give a few others a chance. I do have a sweet tooth for shows that I know will never get great reviews they just get watched in the second wave. It's not like a first wave of so-so reviews will keep people from watching what they are attracted to. |
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Uthred
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:00 pm |
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| Vortextk wrote: | People EAT UP Segal and Van Damme movies at blockbuster, does this mean their material is fun and fresh? Original? Creative?
No. Just because they KEEP churning out ridiculous crap anime # 2387 and people continue to love it/buy it doesn't mean it couldn't be done a whole lot better. |
Good thing then that I didn't say a) by the numbers genre pieces are fresh, original or creative and b) that it couldnt be done better. So Im not really sure if your post was meant to be a counter-argument, an agreement or just something along the same line.
I was merely objecting to the comments implying (or stating) that creators of genre pieces are striving for originality and failing when in reality they are often aiming to make a by the numbers genre piece because a) they know it sells and b) they like getting paid. Its fine to say something isnt original, its groundless speculation to go on to say it was striving to be original and failied to do so. |
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zanarkand princess
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:07 pm |
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| I was kind of hoping we could keep these kinds of comments in the other thread and use this one to actually talk about the shows in upcoming reviews. anyway am I wrong in thinking that no one is subbing skip beat? |
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Raneth
Joined: 06 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:17 pm |
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| In a somewhat related question, how do you guys decide which shows to review? Is it decided purely by availability? |
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Ryomanagare
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:26 pm |
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Don't wanna be that guy, but in Casey's review of TotA she uses the wrong name for a character. It's at the beginning of the second paragraph. She uses the name Jade in place of Tear.
Other than that little error it was a very well done review. |
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