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| GATSU Posts: 8404 |
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Tyrenol:
Only until they become broke in a year after not being to make their money back on the deluged of titles they dumped on the market. That, and their stock will probably take a hit from that crappy DB flick. 
Tempest: I'm waiting for Cromartie 13 myself.  |
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LuckySeven Posts: 435 Location: Georgia, USA |
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Actually from what I heard or read somewhere Funimation has nothing to do with the live-action DB movie coming out next year, that's all on Fox. |
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| Tyrenol Posts: 348 Location: Northern California |
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Hmmm... Last I checked, FUNi's NOT ADV. Or, if I may, I'll let THE numbers do the talking for me. |
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Richard J. Subscriber Posts: 2925 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Netstryke Posts: 45 Location: Toronto, ON |
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| I knew they we're going to complete the "Key/Visual Arts" Trinty.
At least we will get a quality dub. Can't wait for the DVD's |
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| GATSU Posts: 8404 |
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| Seven: I imagine FOX will come around, eventually.
Tyrenol:
Exactly. ADV has titles I might want, while FUNi is just flooding the market Geneon-style.
Most of those are re-releases. When they make money on the new stuff, or even the Geneon and minor ADV stuff, then I'll be impressed. Also, if you were going to include non-anime fans for some of those titles, those dvds would probably do better than the FUNimation stuff. Plus, the link doesn't go into specifics, like whether the follow-ups-such as Aquarion Season 1.2-did as well as the first releases. What else...? Oh, yes, with the downturn in the economy, you've got to wonder if the decline of the dollar means that they're actually making less money by selling some of the new stuff in sets than as individual discs. Just a thought. |
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Daimao Raki Posts: 302 Location: Boro City, SC |
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Good to see ADV getting back up. I don't want to see just Funimation DVDs floating around.
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| FullmetalCJ Industry Insider  Posts: 62 Location: Atlanta, GA |
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Somehow I doubt it. Those left at ADV have no interest in manga, nor any desire to continue it as evidenced by concentrating on new labels that are anime and live-action-centric. No mention of it in IVC2's piece is hardly just an oversight. They're clearly hoping to string fans along till they forget about ADV Manga while selling the volumes on store shelves to those unwitting buyers that don't realize those series will never be finished. (Though I heard translation and touch-up work on the solicited-then-pulled volumes was completed before the end of last year. So ADV's been sitting on them since then.) Sad, really. Yotsuba&! was a AAA title and sold extremely well. Hope it will get picked up by someone somehow that treats it better than ADV has.
Really? Let's be realistic. In all likelihood these "partners" that ADV has announced recently are no more separate from ADV than Tokyo Shock is a totally different company from Media Blasters. Who knows what reasoning is actually behind coming up with these new names. Is it to avoid creditors chasing ADV while making $$$ around the corner as another label? Is it to avoid the reputation ADV may have with Japanese licensors after the Sojitz break-up? Is it an attempt to make it look like other companies are "working" with ADV to drum up business amongst US divisions of Japanese publishers like Kadokawa USA or Aniplex? Certainly ADV is no stranger to slapping together new labels and acting like it's a different entity not run by the same group of people. A couple years back ADV distributed DVDs of the TV show Cheaters and a couple low-brow flicks under a different name (Quench Distribution). MOFC ("My Own F***ing Computer") and Monkey Boy Post weren't separate from ADV in any way. Newtype and PiQ were both ADV though 'separate' in "LLC" (my paycheck said ADV). Amusement Park Media...same thing, ADV. I suspect Switchblade and Sentai Filmworks are no different. There's a reason these "companies" exist, and it's because ADV can't do business as ADV Films anymore for some reason. Not because they've found a new partner. It's not a different or independent company if they're all doing business in the same office suite with the same small group of employees.  (Not mentioned anywhere but a few message board postings yet is the existence of an ADV hentai label -- Happy Carrot -- releasing Guy Double Target in late Nov.)
I do find it curious that ADV has announced a specific April 21, 2009 release for Clannad. I question the timing of both this announcement and the far-off release of the first volume (which is not a terribly common practice in this industry, especially for a company like ADV that is currently doing nothing but releasing collections). Why announce this now, except to try and instill confidence both in the minds of fans and retailers (ICV2 is mainly for comic book retail, after all) going into the holiday season that they're going to be around more than 6 months. |
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| CJ: If what you say is true, I doubt ADV's going to discontinue manga they've already invested money in and even translated, just to move on to other things. They wouldn't have kept those titles in the first place, if that was the case. Nor would they have kept those manga going as long as they did.
And I'm not sure why the Tokyo Shock analogy should somehow be viewed in a negative light. MB's probably been able to expand more non-anime consumers through that line than FUNimation has through Afro Samurai. Finally, I don't get why the delayed date is so "uncommon" for an anime company. How long has FUNimation been sitting on Ouran, for example? Bandai also took forever to get out |
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| Asrialys Posts: 278 |
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Ah, did not notice the dates. Thanks for letting me know. |
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| FullmetalCJ Industry Insider Posts: 62 Location: Atlanta, GA |
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Yes they would. The old volumes still sell and ADV still has the license. If the illusion is kept up that more volumes will still be coming down the line bookstores will keep the old ones in stock and unwitting buyers will keep buying. However, sitting on new volumes for nearly a year after they were ready to go implies that ADV wouldn't be able to or just won't cover the cost involved in printing/distributing new books. Why front the cost to print a new volume if you're still collecting $$$ from those already out there? (And when you look at it, ADV screwing manga fans has had little/no effect on the perception of the company with *anime* fans.)
I'm not making the comparison content-wise or success-wise, just in how related it is to the parent company. I have a hunch that these new companies are no more completely separate from ADV than Tokyo Shock is from Media Blasters.
Right but it's not common practice to announce a specific date (April 21, 2009 in this case) for something this far in advance. Ouran may've taken a long time but FUNimation never set a date for it, much less one that was 6 months in advance. That's the strange part, IMO. |
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| TJ_Kat Posts: 86 |
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That doesn't mean they know what they are doing, it means they've flooded the market. It stands to reason that with more titles available for purchase they'd have more titles on the top 25 list. I imagine they dominate the list of 25 worst anime of summer 2008 too. If they'd only released 20 titles this summer it would be one thing, but with all the titles they have on the market right now, I really don't think those numbers ammount to much. |
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| testorschoice Posts: 465 |
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Uh, 7 of those Funimaton titles had new DVD releases, and not just DVD re-releases, during the months surveyed. Whether or not they impress one fan is not going to determine if "they become broke in a year." |
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| Conan-san Posts: 764 |
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Hi there, I fixed your statement for you. No, no need to thank and/or pay me, I just like fixing egregious errors in statement. |
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| GATSU Posts: 8404 |
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CJ:
So if enough people buy the old volumes that ADV can continue with new volumes, what incentive would there be for them to discontinue that line?
I'm not really sure how that follows. It took Viz a year to release Ultimate Muscle after it was previewed in Jump, and forever to get 20th Century Boys long after they'd admitted they had it.
Because your target audience might get bored and move on to another company, if you rest on your laurels? [*cough* Tokyopop *cough*]
I disagree that ADV's "screwing" manga fans, since it could easily just stop the translations and force the licenses to expire, thus discouraging any competition from acquiring those series, since those titles might be viewed as unprofitable for the company. In addition, the people buying their manga are more likely to be anime fans in the first place. The people buying, say, Naruto or Death Note on DVD, are buying it because they love the manga. But the people buying, say, Yotsuba, clearly also love the Azumanga show.
Blame it on illegal file-sharing. testor:
Lesse: Vexille, Shin Chan, Aquarion, Black Blood Bros., and XXXHolic are the ones they officially got out after they went on their license binge. The other shows aren't technically "new", as FUNi has been putting them out on dvd since last year. Plus, at least a few of those titles were given some sort of pre-marketing push[I.E. shown on cable and/or theatrically] last year, while the rest are being sold to people primarily on their low episode count and/or price/episode ratios. [FUNimation has admitted that they have to sell collections to stay in the business, but how much do they lose when they low-ball and simultaneously pay multiple expensive licensing fees?] DMC already had the video game audience and the people who bought the last couple of dvds, so it doesn't count, either. So, of the shows which no one's heard of and which were unsuccessful the first time around, only a few of them managed to actually dominate the charts of their own accord. Considering the company's alleged market share, it should easily have more spots than that, and not just for the anime which people automatically recognize.
No, but over-acquiring shows without a sense of planning will determine it for FUNimation. The company even said it had to reach a certain level of profit to justify its investment in anime, and yet the first dvd for that second season of Black Lagoon is nowhere to be seen in that ranking. [Not to mention Kyo Kara Maoh, or even Hellsing Ultimate...] |
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Well, if the ending had more closely followed the manga's, then maybe I'd consider double-dipping...
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