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AstroNerdBoy Posts: 335 Location: Denver, CO |
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It isn't theoretical. From what I understand, the deal AIC gave Kajishima was this -- do Tenchi Muyo! GXP first. If that is a success, you get to do OVA 3. If that is successful, then you get to do Seikishi. After OVA 3 +1 was released, Kajishima had the green light to start work on Seikishi. The first thing he told fans in one of his doujinshi (which I'd have to look up) is that he was re-writing the story because too much time had passed since he first wrote it. In the few years since, he's continued to say things like, "story is done, working on storyboards, pre-production stuff underway, etc." However, because the pre-production work took so long, I wondered if AIC might be questioning things or if Kajishima might be just dragging his feet.
With a possible Escaflowne as well. 
Well, everyone has their own tastes. It is true that a large number of characters are show over the 20 episodes of canon.
Yes. His name is Kenji (or Kenshi depending on which reading Kajishima uses). More details about that here. |
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Teriyaki Terrier Posts: 1610 Location: Chihuahua Island |
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I agree with you 100% with the harem aspect. This is why I don't like harem shows. Often in these shows, the male character is almost like Shinji Ikari, minuses the robot in some cases. |
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giberwitz Posts: 36 |
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| I wish he would just finish the story of Tenchi and the girls first. I'm not sure why he thinks people will care about Tenchi's until now nonexistent half brother. Give us a proper ending in which Tenchi marries Ryoko, as we all know he should, and then we can move on to the many infidelities of the Masaki family. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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mrsatan Posts: 199 Location: Olympia, WA |
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The first few episodes were kind of funny when it was just Tenchi, the two sisters, and Ryoko. All the characters added after that were annoying to me. I suppose I just don't like the "harem" genre. I liked DNA2 somewhat because they at least had a _reason_ why all the girls wanted the geeky main character. I wonder if Tenchi's fanbase is mostly overseas? Because when I lived in Japan I never saw any Tenchi merchandise nor heard anyone ever talk about it. |
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penguintruth Posts: 2497 Location: Penguinopolis |
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| To be fair, mrsatan, half the characters were added in the third OVA, and I can't blame you for disliking it, because they were almost entirely unnecessary. The only characters that added anything were Rae and Z, and even Z ended up being a complete bore, because they spent too much time with time-wasters like Noike, Airi, Seto, and others. Kajishima destroyed his creation with that last OVA.
I don't see what the problem was with the few characters they added in the first two OVAs. It's not like they were always hanging around. The central cast stayed pretty managable until the third. If this new title is about Tenchi's half-brother, does that mean a sizeable time skip? Will Tenchi have chosen a girl by this time or will he be in his twenties and still without a woman? It also seems like they should have used his cousin Taro instead of introducing yet another new character. |
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Soul Tsukino Posts: 47 Location: Maine |
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| The one thing The Tchi OAV/GXP cannon had going against it was the fact that there is a ton of backstory that just never made it to the acutal OAVs themselves. So a lot of characters just seem to show up randomly when in fact they had been part of the story going back to the original OAV. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| krownklown Posts: 23 |
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| to not be fair to mr satan, he does not watch very many harem shows; tenchi has at best the standard
almost every harem show i have seen has around 6 love interest , which is the number in tenchi - ryoko, ayeka, sasami, mihoshi, washu, and noike other examples - love hina - naru, shinbo, naru clone, fox girl, matoko, indian girl, later on blonde girl, and then keitaro's sister ranma - akane, kodachi, shampoo, spatula girl, plus every other episode there was a girl of the week deal eh i could list this for pretty much every harem but it would take to long without mutiple girls it wouldnt be harem, and why the hell do you think they sell and are so popular, they give pathetic people escape from reality - and then sadly you get this thing going on in japan where people petition for marriage to 2d girls |
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Julia-the-Great Posts: 148 |
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I'll probably always have a soft spot for the Tenchi series, as it was the second anime I ever watched. However, that doesn't mean I want more of it. OVA3 was, in my opinion, a trainwreck that I can't ever un-watch.  |
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EricDent Posts: 176 Location: Georgetown, TX |
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| I thought they allready pretty much confirmed this about 2 weeks ago...
Anyhow, I am a big Tenchi fan! Interesting to see how this goes. BTW there is a "Clone" of Mihoshi, Mihoshi's mom (or was it her sister?) Mitoto (as seen in GXP). Technically this would be the 4th "Tenchi" (Tenchi's creator made an earlier show that had a character that looked a lot like him). The reason I can't name the show, is cause it is not for the kiddies... |
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J-Syxx Posts: 1203 |
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Actually, I think the ending I would want to tenchi is Tenchi coming out of the closet. It would be both a satisfying closure to this terribly cliched plodt and a clear cut explanation of why he acts like a chaste saint who won't let beautiful girls from space get into his pants. And back in the day before I tired of the shounen harem thing, I actually would've prefer him going with Ayeka. Then I decided he wasn't worthy of her, and she would have to go with some one who was stronger than him and had more of a spine since a princess would want to go with a more masculine, knight in shining armor type individual. That of course lead me to the obvious conclusion that Ayeka/Ryoko would be a more proper pairing.  |
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| Zalis116 Moderator  Posts: 4812 Location: Tana Village |
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No Seca, you weren't the only one who thought "Tenchi/El-Hazard Crossover" upon seeing this. Although that would've been cool.
 It really is an odd situation, what Kajishima/AIC have done with the Tenchi franchise over the years. Haven't fans on both sides of the Pacific been clammering for "more mainline" for ages now? (Well, until OVA 3, then it became "more mainline that doesn't suck.") And yet all that comes out is random spinoff after random spinoff. Though I have to admit to enjoying GXP, even if it didn't have much of a a point. |
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| penguintruth Posts: 2497 Location: Penguinopolis |
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| Kajishima should just let us pretend the third OVA didn't happen and try again.
Wishful thinking, I guess, but with so many alternate universes, what's one more? One where the third OVA wasn't a terrible waste of time. I mean, two episodes on Mihoshi's brother? They took a workable premise and made it completely unbearable. How does Mihoshi's brother's henchwoman's crush on him have anything to do with anything? The only good part was watching Sasami easily defeat her (though they didn't show the whole fight). |
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Tortoiseshell Tabby Girl Posts: 147 Location: USA ---- Avatar: Hyoue and The Girl That Used To Be Named Amane |
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| Yay! More Seikishi news! It does sound a bit like Tenchi crossed with El Hazard and/or Escaflowne. I like the thought of that! For me, El Hazard is still a fairly brand new favorite and I haven't seen much of Escaflowne. I suppose one's view on the matter depends upon their perspective--and how much they enjoy Kajishima's stories, despite, or maybe partly because of, their flaws. I just checked out Seikishi.com and they have a picture of the characters. I must say that when I heard they were going to go a different route with the designs from other anime based on Kajishima's stories it made me a little sad because I love those designs, but now that I've seen the picture, I find I actually like the designs a lot! Kenji, a scarred old man, and a bunch of gals are in the picture. I think the purple-haired girl on the left and the woman with the pointy elf-ears in the back-right look cool. And, interestingly enough, I'm getting some Ryoko vibes from the red-haired girl in the front. I'm really excited about this. I can't wait to see it.
I don't mind not having another main storyline story right now. I actually like seeing what's going on with other characters related to Tenchi's universe. I really just find myself drawn to Kajishima's characters and their relationships with one another, both dramatic and humorous, their slice-of-life adventures, and their sci-fi encounters. I remember one time I popped in one of my original OVA DVDs to "look up" something that I was trying to remember about an episode and I ended up getting sucked in and just kept watching even though that wasn't what I had intended to do. Needless to say, it was the episode where Tenchi kicks Kagato's ass. And, yes, Tenchi does kick ass. No, he's not a big, muscle-bound pervert, but he's got a lot of heart and loyalty about him and I think that's the point. If he was aggressively pursuing and trying to make out with the girls around him, that would totally turn me off and repulse me (and probably turn off and repulse the fictional girls). I like Tenchi's character because he's gentle, can grow awesome vegetables (and is therefore good with his hands and likes being out in nature), is patient enough to put up with a lot of energetic and eccentric women, refuses to get involved with any of the women yet because he's come to love them in his own way as an unusual family unit, and protects his unusual family with his life (by fighting Kagato, coming to Ryoko's aid when Clay took her, dealing with Z, etc.). And he has awesomely awesome lighthawk wings and other powers. Actually, considering his age, I think he's a pretty mature character. I'm very curious as to whether Kenji will share any similarities with Tenchi, such as the ability to use lighthawk wings. And I'm curious if there will be some interesting differences, too. Tenchi's probably in his thirties by the time Seikishi takes place, since I believe he was 19 when his father married Rea. It would be nice if they let the fans have a peek at him and the girls like the did in GXP (*crosses fingers*). |
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| J-Syxx Posts: 1203 |
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| I'm not a fan of overly macho characters either (well except for tomboys ), but Tenchi is just an aggravating character. The idea of a completely chaste nerd who will not "choose" and fights off the advances of space babes for 20 years is a not very exciting concept. I wouldn't expect him to be a total pervert, but a little more of a realistic depiction of a guy would be nice. You can have a male main character who isn't a parthetic dork or a "total badass" who is completely heartless, it's possible. Like the guy who is love with Hiyant in Excel Saga I would point out as an example that is much more tolerable. Frankly, I'm sick of the nerd fantasy fulfillment garbage. It's so incredibly thinly veiled and has no respect for the audience.
As for Tenchi's chastity, we do have people in the religous right who try to restrain their selves that hard, but it's not exactly something I find particularly appealing. I think this is one of the most annoying things about harem main characters. It was also the case in Steel Angel Kurumi, and funny enough it ended up with all the girls turning lesbian by the second season. |
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| AstroNerdBoy Posts: 335 Location: Denver, CO |
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Well, Tenchi marries Ryoko, Ryo-ohki, Aeka, Sasami, Mihoshi, Washu, and Noike. Everyone wins, no one quits.
Um, Tenchi's main fanbase IS in Japan (which is the biggest hurdle for American fans). Who do you think all these Tenchi titles are made for? Every year, Kajishima puts out a few doujinshi for the Japanese Tenchi otaku (and anyone else who can read Japanese I suppose). He's put out five GXP novels to date, in Japanese (the latest this year). And clearly someone is buying Tenchi stuff because AIC still sees it as a money maker.
Um, only one character can be classified as a new character in OVA 3 (well, maybe two if you count Kagato-chan, but that was hinted at in other Kajishima writings) -- Tennyo. Tenchi's sister took everyone by surprise because unlike Noike (introduced in a mid-90's doujinshi), Seto-sama (she either showed up in the novel "Jurai" first or in a doujinshi), and Airi (she was introduced in either an early doujinshi or the novel "Yosho"), Tennyo had no early introduction and so was a complete surprise character. Noike, Airi, and Seto also were in GXP, which if you'll recall, was aired prior to OVA 3 being created (though time line-wise, it takes place after OVA 3 +1). The purpose of Airi should have been obvious -- she's Yosho's wife for crying out loud and thus Tenchi's grandmother. Like Tennyo, Airi showed Tenchi that while he though he only has a father and grandfather for immediate family, he has a sister and a grandmother too. Plus with Airi, I can promise you that the Japanese fans would have been angry had she not shown up in OVA 3 because she's married to Yosho (and since they have another daughter, Tenchi also has an aunt that he didn't know about).
Seto-sama is another character that had to be in OVA 3 simply because of who she is. She was introduced in the novel Jurai and has a major impact on how Azusa came to the throne. She's Aeka and Sasami's grandmother and for fans who watched GXP, they know what kind of woman she is (in addition to reading Jurai and Yosho). Tenchi otaku, knowing what they knew, expected Seto to be in OVA 3 and she was. Anyway, I could go on, but why bother. 
If you saw my blog entry mentioned earlier, you'll see what age Kenji appears to be (a young teen).
Tenchi ends up with ALL the girls. Kajishima has all but said this for years but in the west, we don't want to hear that. I know because I used to be in that group. And frankly, Kajishima has an H-doujinshi out there with Tenchi spending QT with Noike, while a satisfied-looking Aeka politely puts an end to a teenaged Sasami spying on them.  ; So even if people continue to deny everything else, they can rage more about Noike. 
I'm always amused by the people who hate OVA 3 and don't want more Tenchi, yet they can't keep away from Tenchi-related topics.
Yeah, so did I.
It is Mihoshi's mother.
Clearly, the Japanese must not have though OVA 3 sucked that badly. I know the true haters don't like it when this is pointed out, but AIC did green light the production of OVA 3 +1. Considering that each episode cost Japanese fans ~$50 each (plus the Nabe Special), that's well over $300 that Japanese fans shelled out for OVA 3. Then they shelled out another $50 for OVA 3 +1. As far as "random spinoffs" go, Sasami would qualify as a non-canon, random spinoff. AIC creates that and with two series, shows that the Tenchi brand name still has it for non-canon stuff. For Seikishi, I've been waiting for it for a VERY long time, because it was announced as a project way back when GXP and OVA 3 were announced. As I mentioned earlier, the caveat always was that for Kajishima to finally get to do Seikishi, GXP and OVA 3 had to do well. They did. As to the point of GXP, for a hardcore Tenchi fan who gets into the TM!R world Kajishima created (much as I got into the world Tolkien created), the series provided a great deal of information. It showed how powerful Jurai is as a nation, but despite that, they still had pirate problems. It showed a glimpse into how one partners with a Royal tree. They showed us a bit about Galaxy Police and Galaxy Army. There were other things as well which added to the richness of the universe which Kajishima created.
I kinda agree here. The problem is that Kajishima loves side tales and love stories. It was basically established in GXP and other places that Misao and Mashisu were married. Kajishima wanted to show what got them to that point. I have no problem with that per se. What pissed me off is that Kajishima built up this big fight between the harem and the Galaxy Army Special Forces unit. Then the next episode, he says, "Psyche! You've already seen these girls fight and showing them fight again bores me. As a bone, I'll let you see Sasami fight AFTER she's already one so as to remove any dramatic tension." Ugh. Bad, bad presentation there. Where I to be able to re-present OVA 3, I'd tell the exact same story, only I'd fix some of the writing and directing decisions made. (Actually, for a western audience, I'd redo all 20 episodes to incorporate some of the stuff the Japanese fans got to see in the doujinshi, novels, and interviews but for which western fans are ignorant to for the most part. That alone would make OVA 3 better but since it was written for the Japanese otaku crowd, western fans are left either doing what I did and learning everything they could or be confused as heck and wonder why things went the way they did.)
Whoa! The site is working again. Cool.
Kenji is the boy. I don't know who the older guy is. I only know two character names for two of the girls -- Rashara and Kyaia but I don't know who those are (I'm thinking the blonde and the red haired girl).
If I had to guess, I'd say not but who knows. |
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