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Akatsukiwolf



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:08 pm Reply with quote
Try animating Super Robot Taisen Z for the PS2 into a tv series... Epic huh?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:57 pm Reply with quote
So very very true!

It usually takes me like 10 episodes or several dozen chapters before I am able to properly identify each character... the recurring character that is!
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Liseanne27



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:57 pm Reply with quote
britannicamoore wrote:
Why does this remind me of the old school Nsync/BSB fights from back in the day? I feel old. Confused


You feel old? Reminds me of NK on the Block...ugh...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:11 pm Reply with quote
nina and her bishi love popping up once again heh. Reminds me of how I said the same thing to a friend about Fushigi Yugi once and she spent 15 minutes telling me how wrong I was detailing their many differences. Dear God I wish that was a lie but it truly isn't. Sad And that flash pic of the anime characters almost gave me a seizure. Anime dazed
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:18 pm Reply with quote
@ReiClone88:

That is so cool. Thankyou for posting it.
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jetz



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:51 am Reply with quote
ReiClone88 wrote:
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*saves*

Wish I could find the 2 other images that are like this one, except it featured more characters from series I'm familiar with.

@JesuOtaku

I'm glad you mentioned Vampire Knight. I remember when I first started reading the manga, I couldn't tell the characters apart because they all have the same faces. Kaname looks like Shiki, Aidou, Ichijou and Akatsuki look alike, and some of the girls look pretty similar too. It was even harder to tell them apart with the manga cause *gasp* it has no color!
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trescaballeros



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:32 am Reply with quote
Oh wow. This strip captures my main problem with anime character designs nowadays (everybody looks alike),

Hm...is it possible that there could be an anime/manga made wherein different artists can make the character designs so that monotony can be minimized? But this can be a problem though; it might end up as a mishmash of disjointed elements. Oh well, me and my not so brilliant ideas.

I have encountered only 2 shows (one anime and other Western) that actually shows a lot of variation from a single artist/character designer, but I won't say it out here lest someone accuses me of fangirling/pimping for them.... Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:54 am Reply with quote
Actually, the correct method to cheat is to recycle designs for different show in a different genre for a different group of audiences. Then unless you are ultra hardcore no life outkuuu...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:02 am Reply with quote
Tamaria wrote:
That show does not follow the holy laws of bishounen design! Blonde = heroic and the popular pretty boy, white/silver = mysterious and reserved. I suggest a mob, torches and pitch forks.


But usually the mysterious and reserved guy has red eyes to go with the white/silver hair, and at least the mysterious and reserved guy had red eyes.
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reanimator



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:16 am Reply with quote
trescaballeros wrote:
Oh wow. This strip captures my main problem with anime character designs nowadays (everybody looks alike),

Hm...is it possible that there could be an anime/manga made wherein different artists can make the character designs so that monotony can be minimized? But this can be a problem though; it might end up as a mishmash of disjointed elements. Oh well, me and my not so brilliant ideas.


It's kind of possible to have multiple artists to design characters for one title. However, it's not advisable because it throws off design unity, unless your title is Comedy Central's "Drawn Together" TV animation.

Just watch Atashinchi. They use diverse shapes to show difference between one teenage character from one another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Wn6ZkMBGw

There is no written rule that all cute/pretty teenage anime characters, both male and female, should have round head with tapered chin. So, it's better to experiment around with shapes than pasting hairstyles
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reanimator



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:07 pm Reply with quote
On Negima pic, Just about everyone has pretty much the same head shape except number 30. Great post.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:22 am Reply with quote
Ah, now this is a nice Nina! Two things I love, Kevin's complete lack of interest in what is clearly a paradise of bishounen man-flesh anime, and Nina's charcter descriptions that all end in "and handsome." There's just something awesome about that.

Can we have a follow-up with Kevin and Nina reversing positions maybe?

It's okay Nina, I saw the fashinonable good-guy scar on Raz. Clearly she feels a little stronger about him.

Odd that people say the Negima characters all look the same. I never had any trouble telling them apart, just remembering their names. (Still haven't memorized them all.)

Been trying to get to the forum to post on this comic for a couple of days. I was having the worst trouble getting the forum to come up for some reason.
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abynormal



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:50 pm Reply with quote
Iritscen wrote:

Also, re:scars, don't even get me started on how there's only a few kinds of facials scars in all of animé: the vertical one across one eye, the cross-shaped scar on the cheek (or sometimes chin), the parallel tracks down one cheek... let's see, can anyone else come up with a couple more?


Don't forget the scar running diagonally from the forehead, across the nose and under the opposite eye. Sergei from Gundam 00 sports one of those.

And of course the heavy bodily scarring. Vash the Stampede and Black Jack drive the convention into the ground so far it sticks up in China (or America in Japan's case). Vash is covered in some pretty brutal scars everywhere below his neck. Black Jack's body is cris-crossed with surgery scars and half his face is composed of a skin graft from an African man, complete with diagonal scar going across his face. Also, Fakir from Princess Tutu has a large and very nasty scar running down most of his torso.

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I didn't think Fushigi Yuugi was that bad about it (aside from me refusing to believe Hotohori was male at first), but this is a consequence of an industry that prides itself on rapid production times. Drawing every single character differently hundreds and thousands of times is time consuming!
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reanimator



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:48 pm Reply with quote
Richard J. wrote:
Odd that people say the Negima characters all look the same. I never had any trouble telling them apart, just remembering their names. (Still haven't memorized them all.)


That's because you're subconsciously telling them apart by their hair shapes first. If the artist decided to change a character's hairstyle shape, you wouldn't recognize the character right away.

Once people passed silhouette and color part of hairstyle, they look for other distinctive features set those characters apart. Eye shapes should play next role of distinction, but there aren't enough variety. Since Anime eyes aren't enough for facial feature distinction, people look for other features subconsciously. This is where face/head shape falls in. Since there isn't good combination of eyes and face/head shapes, people feel that all characters look alike.
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trescaballeros



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:56 am Reply with quote
reanimator wrote:
trescaballeros wrote:
Oh wow. This strip captures my main problem with anime character designs nowadays (everybody looks alike),

Hm...is it possible that there could be an anime/manga made wherein different artists can make the character designs so that monotony can be minimized? But this can be a problem though; it might end up as a mishmash of disjointed elements. Oh well, me and my not so brilliant ideas.


It's kind of possible to have multiple artists to design characters for one title. However, it's not advisable because it throws off design unity, unless your title is Comedy Central's "Drawn Together" TV animation.

Just watch Atashinchi. They use diverse shapes to show difference between one teenage character from one another.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Wn6ZkMBGw

There is no written rule that all cute/pretty teenage anime characters, both male and female, should have round head with tapered chin. So, it's better to experiment around with shapes than pasting hairstyles


Oh, Atashinchi! Yes, seen that and it is a prime example that variety doesn't have to come with elaboration.

Playing around with shapes....that is one way to go around it; but another way I do it is to do "real people" portraiture first before translating them into a character design. (Which I never get to do nowadays for lack of time, but that's going off topic).
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