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dtm42
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:59 pm
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hissatsu01 wrote: |
I think there's medication for that. |
No, but there is surgery available. It's called getting a lobotomy. That will certainly stop me from getting upset with bad writing.
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hissatsu01
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:07 pm
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dtm42 wrote: |
No, but there is surgery available. It's called getting a lobotomy. That will certainly stop me from getting upset with bad writing. |
Getting "upset" by bad writing is one thing, though I question the worth of having the compulsive need to tell everyone that it upsets you. Over, and over, and over, and over...
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...and over, and over, and over, and over again. That's just sad.
Repeating your complaint for the 10,000th time isn't convincing anybody who wasn't convinced the first 9,999 times. It does however convince everyone that you're completely oblivious to how tiresome you can be.
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050795
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:10 pm
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In regards to the "don't tell , show" augment, I have found in my experience that anime fans tend to be under the impression that if you tell instead of show, it somehow gives the show a more depth. I think that a lot of American fans feel like they have to defend the fact that they like anime, and if the show has more depth can say, "See there is more to anime then just porn, and kids shows!" I have also found that most American anime fans go through this sort of defensive phase (I know I did) and that is the reason why they are so critical and nit picky about shows that appear to be shallow or childish on the surface. Once I got past that phase I enjoyed anime a lot more because it allowed me to enjoy show for what they were, not what they weren't.
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ArsenicSteel
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:13 pm
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dtm42 wrote: | The writers don't appear to have a basic idea of how physics works, and they also haven't thought out social norms of the society they are depicting. |
The lack or reduction of gravity doesn't suddenly make the articles of clothing people are wearing to change in form and reveal what they are designed to cover. Objects at rest...is pretty basic physics. It is also plausible that the inhabitants of this futuristic story have designed clothing that completely retain their original form.
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mike.motaku
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:17 pm
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I certainly enjoy people treating a fictional cartoon as if it were a real-life documentary. I remember when the movie Anastasia came out & people complained that it was not an accurate depiction of the Russian Revolution. What was your first clue? The talking bat or Rasputin's musical numbers? Or the fact that it was a cartoon?
If things depicted in cartoons were, you know, real, then we would live in a world where women's boobs were made of a helium-filled, rubberized satin that ripple in the breeze and made a boingy-boingy noise when they move. We don't.
While it is easy to see where one could mistakenly believe that the laws of physics apply equally whether one lives in a 3-dimensional universe or in a 2-dimensional fictional cartoon, sadly, they do not.
Re: the Funimation/Sentai lawsuit. Totally business. Funi picked up the debt solely to have a stick to beat Sentai with. And if, as Sentai claims, the suit is without merit? They still have to spend time & money for most of 2012 just to get to a point where a judge can throw it out. IMO of course. Not a lawyer.
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dtm42
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:25 pm
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hissatsu01 wrote: |
dtm42 wrote: |
No, but there is surgery available. It's called getting a lobotomy. That will certainly stop me from getting upset with bad writing. |
Getting "upset" by bad writing is one thing, though I question the worth of having the compulsive need to tell everyone that it upsets you. Over, and over, and over, and over...
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...and over, and over, and over, and over again. That's just sad.
Repeating your complaint for the 10,000th time isn't convincing anybody who wasn't convinced the first 9,999 times. It does however convince everyone that you're completely oblivious to how tiresome you can be. |
You sure you don't want to put a few more "and over" in there? Just for good measure?
(Please don't . . .)
Seriously, you think I like repeating myself? No I don't. The only reason I'm still talking about the skirt issue is because people keep on bringing it up and all I'm doing is responding to those posts.
As for your claim that I have a compulsive need to tell everyone, answer me this; what is this thread for? Is it not for talking about what was said in the podcast? If I have a compulsive need to tell people what Moretsu Pirates did wrong, then Theron has a compulsive need to come onto podcasts and tell people how good Moretsu Pirates is. I don't, and he doesn't. Accusing me of compulsive behaviour here when I'm doing the normal thing to do in such a thread is quite disingenuous.
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fellinizucchini
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:39 pm
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So anyway, when I'm being taken out of the episode because of such an obvious fault, that isn't nitpicking, that is a sign that these people haven't thought at all about the dynamics of skirts in space. Or else they did, and threw them in anyway. It doesn't matter either way, as the show is negatively impacting its own believability and by extension my enjoyment.
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You must really hate Jurassic Park and Cowboy Bebop and Madoka and The Girl Who Leapt Through Time and Star Wars then...
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Tanteikingdomkey
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:45 pm
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I understand what you are talking about zac, I like fate/zero and have seen the first 6 garden of sinners, and have liked them so far, but I have never claimed to be a type moon fan, but more type moon curious. I like world building and is one of the reasons I watch anime. I like the show creating a universe. so even if it superfluous I feel like it helps create that universe and those details add a layer of depth to the show in my opinion. I am also a big fan of mysteries... good luck finding a mystery with good world building. but I still enjoy a lot of good mysteries, and that is why I like supernatural, even though I don't like horror.
DTM please stop, you are to the point of trolling with not letting it go, everyone else just don't feed them.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:49 pm
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hmm no comments on another or high points i see well that's okay bros. This aside don't show, tell can really apply to naruto in this case... Listen I am still an action junkie for shonen shows but give me a reason to care about some one that will be killed 4 episodes later that is part of filler episode.
The only time you can reverse this is in a visual novel or vn adaption. These type of shows need depth for the characters due in part that's the main drive point from them but this is just personal opinion.
Biggest surprise this season: Daily Lives of High School Boys
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Hypeathon
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:51 pm
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fellinizucchini wrote: | You must really hate Jurassic Park and Cowboy Bebop and Madoka... |
....Uuuuuhhhhh... this is going to get to a point where he might say you have no idea what you're talking about or something because based on his previous posts, he has defended Madoka as "this is a brilliantly-made show" and will just put a period on it. Just giving you fair warning.
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JaffaOrange
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:54 pm
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I'll be honest here, I was a little bothered, and a little bit amused, by the skirts as well (not their physics but their presence on the spacecraft).
And then I forgot about it entirely until it was brought up in the ANNCast.
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vinamara
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:59 pm
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Man, it felt like Zac and Bamboo ganged up on Theron this time about various things. The former two can be a little extreme about their opinions about something sometimes (which isn't a bad thing, mind you), whereas Theron exercises moderation and is comparatively more forgiving.
It felt like Bamboo likes her anime raw for the most part. Particularly anime that generate raw emotional responses from its viewers. I loved TTGL for that very reason, despite its ridiculousness.
When it comes to anime I usually read the review after watching the series to see if I felt the same as the reviewer did and other times I would read a review just to see if it can encourage me to watch shows that have dubious titles like "Kill Me Baby" and see if they are worth watching despite their sucky titles.
I totally agree with Theron about over-consumption, which kinda can kill your passion for things and give you cynical eyes that criticize everything that they come across. Thankfully, that has only been relegated to Hollywood movies and has not affected my perspective on anime shows much. But yeah, I have to be more choosy.
And I've been wondering if The Stream is dead because I thought I could join Bamboo in her gushing after watching Chihaya's match with Queen Shinobu.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:10 pm
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"World building" is important. But it usually can't be done well via infodumps. It has to come across naturally or the world isn't being built at all, just a bunch of information.
The reason I like FMA so much is that it builds its world naturally. It doesn't always sit you down and tell you everything.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes, for instance, has a lot of infodumps, but they're all written in so well that they don't feel that way. Creative writing allows LoGH's world to be built via the story and secondary information via history documentaries and the like. But all the really vital information is already there.
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agila61
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:16 pm
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dtm42 wrote: | Believe what you want, but it isn't nitpicking when my enjoyment is adversely affected. ... |
The conclusion does not follow from the evidence, since the fact that your enjoyment of the show is undermined by a nitpicking detail does not stop it from being a nitpicking detail.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:17 pm
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agila61 wrote: |
dtm42 wrote: | Believe what you want, but it isn't nitpicking when my enjoyment is adversely affected. ... |
The conclusion does not follow from the evidence, since the fact that your enjoyment of the show is undermined by a nitpicking detail does not stop it from being a nitpicking detail. |
It does however seem that the said person is ocd, i have the same condition so nitpicking at small things that get on ones nerves is hard to look pass.
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