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20 Years in Prison for Buying a Manga

This case is nuts. The law should be there to protect people, so how exactly does a guy looking at drawings harm anyone? It doesn't, so why on earth could this even be illegal. And how does reading manga where there might be under-age sex mean the guy is a risk to children? Manga is totally fantasy. If reading that stuff meant you were a risk to society, then that would mean everyone who watches porn is very likely to be a rapist. Better convict anyone who reads yaoi too just incase they go out there and force some guys to have sex while they watch. And while we're at it, why not ban video games where you shoot people. That's illegal in real life, so if you do it in a simulation, you must be a murderer!

Chris Handley did not engage in sex with any one, he was not arrested for kidnapping a child, or having consensual or non-consensual forced sex with a minor or someone of any age under 21 or not.

Therefore half of his current case is a witch-hunt and must be thrown out. The witch-hunt attack the state and goverment are using on him is persecution in its finest explanation therefore charges should be brought up upon the mail man and the courts in Iowa.

Any resulting tag to Chris H. that says or states that he is a child predator or sex offender has to be dropped and removed at the cost of the state. Since the court is processing it as a case of child abuse and actual child rape, once again, the case has to be thrown out.

He can be processed for the disgusting obscene images charges if they were separate from that case but consideration must be added that it was a imported book that he never received so he didn't know the stores would go from PG to XXX.

Laws must differentiate between real photos and real art and real acts of human to human contact VS. cartoon books (fiction) and shallow stories in them. If any one has been charged and convicted in the past of physically assaulting abusing and having sex with any person who never came in contact with a real human being dead or alive the court must now also go reverse those rulings and change the law.

I support efforts to remove CP from all things. One thing I have noticed here on the forums and on other forums is people mixing up meaning of the words. A Lolicon is someone excited / interested in watching those under 17. A Pedophile is someone who HAS engaged in sex with a person who is under age. The pedophile once captured by law enforcement is then classified as a sex offender. The Pedophile is often a child predator in that they hunt chances to grab and abuse then often kill the child when they are done with them. Do not call a Lolicon a Pedophile.

I applaud Mr Horn's comments here. God bless the CBLDF. Heck, I got one of his books that has a couple of scenes of what could be classified as obscene virtual child pornography. Are the feds gonna bust down my door for owning Blood the Last Vampire 2002 published by Viz? What about a couple disturbing rape scenes in Berserk?

Reading manga or any fictional book should not be a crime. Reading manga or any book in America should not be like Reading Lolita in Tehran. The government should not ban books. They should not arrest people for owning drawings of fictional characters.

This is not actual child pornography. No child was harmed in it. Laws designed to protect children and track down the real criminals should not waste their time on this. If we start banning fiction and arresting people based on what some people think are obscene. Geez. That's a little too The Scarlet Letter, Fahrenheit 451 and 1984. Read them now, kids, just in case the government thinks those are obscene or seditious.

Tom Leher said it well. "I do have a cause, though. It is obscenity. I'm for it."

Great....another feast for lawyers.

I guess that's another underlying problem. He's getting judged by a group of his peers that most likely think on a different logic/moral wavelength. Most human beings are biased and even a judge is prone to it. Justice is blind and therefore can't judge based on appearance. It's supposed to be fair and balanced, use logic and facts and come to a decision that's fair to the prosecuted. The problem is humans have different standards, make laws that are unfair and sometimes punish those that don't deserve it. It just seems like they found a giant loophole to jump through.. I guess the "obscenity" law itself is the problem.

An interesting note is that it seems that the Miller Test of obscenity applies to this case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test
which I guess is better than the old standard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

Ok, first off: this is nuts. 20 years?!

How can we give someone 20 years in prison for privately owning one or two slightly pornographic pictures in a manga, while America just shoves sex into your face?

I'm a minor, but I walk into a 7-11 and get smacked in the face with porn magazines. I went to CVS to buy a new toothbrush, and right next to them is an aisle of Harlequin romance novels. Sex is all over TV, I get emails telling me I can enlarge a certain piece of anatomy I don't even possess, and every other webpage has an ad that says "meet sexy singles in your area NOW!!"

Let me first say this: if AlienX18th century aristocrat named Melisandra, and women with oversized breasts riding motorcycles with chainsaws is legal, why isn't "obscene" manga?

Have you ever read Lolita? It's considered a literary classic, but it's about pedophilia.

We in America are so concerned with protecting innocence/morals, but as a country, do we see how insane we're being? I want to meet this suit with a stick up his butt who can say "Playboy is perfectly fine, but manga is just disgusting."

Just as a couple points of clarification: As 'Lolita' is considered a literary classic it would therefore be acceptable under the guidelines that exempt anything with literary or artistic value.

Also, nobody is saying Playboy is fine but Manga pornography is bad. That's not really the issue. It's an issue of manga with sexually explicit content involving children. So really, it's real life equivalent, actual child pornography, would be considered absolutely as bad if not worse.

Ug. Some of you need to take a step back from all your righteous indignation. Read what I wrote again. Does it read: "OMG! Lolicon is teh evil and he should go to prison for 9000 years where he will be raped in the bum which he deserves!!!!!1!!1" No, no it doesn't.

So what are you even on about? Of course I "ignore" that point. It has nothing to do with what I said.

PROTIP: Until this is settled, Hide your Tenma COMIC LO issues.....

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