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NEWS: Pretty Cure to Run on Canada's YTV in Early 2009


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Kimiko_0



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:28 pm Reply with quote
But what will our heroines snack on if not Akane's takoyaki?
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TsukasaElkKite



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:35 pm Reply with quote
Kimiko_0 wrote:
But what will our heroines snack on if not Akane's takoyaki?

Donut balls Laughing
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ZeetherKID77



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:36 pm Reply with quote
If this comes here then they better not dub it in this way. Unacceptable.
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Haterater



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:38 pm Reply with quote
Hi no Neko wrote:
Am I the only one who really doesn't mind name changes in a series like this? It's a kid show, and it's supposed to be set in modern-day _____, right? It's not like their names are essential to the plot, or there's a sense of foreign-ness that simply must be preserved. (Like with something like Full Metal Panic, or Naruto, respectively.)

Besides, what kid doesn't love having the same name as a superhero? Not that many Canadians named "Nagisa." Ha, maybe with this my Canadian friend will have a new pop-culture nickname aside from "Hannah Montana". :B


Exactly, its really no different than the name changes for Pokemon. If this helps to get kids to watch, than I'm all for it.
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firecrouch



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:11 pm Reply with quote
I'm wondering what the dub is gonna be like? It says in the article that YTV just has the broadcasting rights, do they have the production rights? 'Cause Toei Animation made their own English dub (as trailers and one pilot episode) as a way to pitch the show to companies, and it was like the "Bobobo" dub: the dialogue seemed Americanized enough but there were no music or name changes. I remember watching that English-dubbed pilot episode at Anime Expo in 2007, it was pretty good, and when I talked to someone from Toei Animation at their booth they were just having the usual problems of getting T.V. broadcasters to take girls' cartoons seriously, and he half-jokingly said to me, "Please tell Toonami that you want to watch the show," or something along those lines. So I wonder what happened for them to make the name changes?
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Kyogissun



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:24 pm Reply with quote
sailorsean wrote:
heavyweather wrote:
GATSU wrote:
Will they have special maple leaf battle outfits? Razz Laughing


Or have Rush re-record the OP...

Seriously, I watched a few Episodes of PreCure on Toei's Cruchcyroll stream. As a show, It's quite poor (The animation's dated, the plots are needlessly boring and repetitive, and it never will end) but will probably attract a sizable audience for itself and the merchandising avalanche that will most likely follow.


I agree with you Precure isn't all that good after all... the only reason toei wanted north america to license it is becuase after that then they'll have it shown in all continents of the world... (or to the ones that matter) but still i agree its kinda boring and outdated... I don't know why but toei's staff isn't all great at animation, just look at their version of kanon, air, and clannad... they suck at storytelling too!

but you know what magical girl show really needs to make it here?...
Shugo Chara! I got hooked from the first episode... (actually from the catchy opening Razz) And I can tell, even if there are name changes and such, its gonna be BIG here!


Oh god, don't remind me...

Air... Clannad... BOTH GOD AWFUL.

And the movie for Clannad cut out so, so, SO many bits of story here and there and left with the ending that isn't even exact (It was headed down the mandatory after story path) and just... UGH.

I wish Toei Animation would stop, as far as I know, the only worthwhile thing they've ever done are the digimon series.
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kakoishii



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:54 pm Reply with quote
who_is_friend wrote:
I still regard Sailor Moon as one of the best animated programs shown on Canadian TV, and that includes the localization.

It's a simple fact that kids will relate more to names that are relatively familiar to them, rather than foreign, exotic names. Natalie and Hannah are a rather close fit. It's when they change entire story arcs or remove all weapons that it gets out of hand.

As long as they do as Sailor Moon and keep the story (more or less) intact, I don't think there'll be a problem, and the show might even become a success. There hasn't been a show like Sailor Moon, that caused a whirlwind craze up in Canada for girls (and a good number of boys for that matter), for a very long time.

As much as you all would like to moan about this, it's a show aimed for kids and should be treated as such. There's no content I can think of that would be offensive (besides the image of an anime David Bowie of course), and the plot is relatively simple as is.

Besides, regardless of the possibility of a Dual Language DVD release (or a DVD release at all for that matter), there's always the uncut official release on Crunchyroll.

That's pure and utter bullshit. This is a magical girl show not a slice of life anime, there's already so little to relate to unless you know of a lot of little girls who can transform into superheros. I'm pushing it I know, but I'd liked to see the article and statistical analysis that "proves" that little kids can relate to characters who have similar names to them than those that don't. My bad, I thought kids related to characters based on...I don't know, their actual characters?

Look I'm not really trying make a stink about anything, it's not like I've ever even seen Pretty Cure or anything, it's just that a lot times name changes are just the first step towards other unnecessary localizations. Kids aren't afraid of watching shows based in exotic locales with characters with exotic names, just look at Avatar the last airbender. This is an american cartoon mind you, all of the characters had exotic names such as Aang and Katara and despite all that the kids ate it up like candy.

Face it, kids will like anything with crazy characters that transform and save the day no matter what their names are. Besides I don't know about you but when I was a kid I was loved hero characters with funky names, there's just something kind of non-spectacular about a superhero named "Bob" as a oppose to "Goku" ya know Rolling Eyes
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Paploo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:57 pm Reply with quote
I'm just going to ignore the whinging and say, bring it on YTV! It'll be fun to have a new magical girl show on YTV, it's been such a long time. Given it's a younger kids show, I don't imagine there'll be many edits, and I hope they dub the original theme song, but will be sure to tune in for whatever they do, and I hope it'll be a fun show to attract a new generation of anime fans yet again. I think people severly underestimate the importance of kids anime to the industry.

Toei does have a produced subtitled version lying around due to their Direct2Drive promotion, so I imagine that if anyone does license it for DVD, they *might* get access to both versions.
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MrAnimeSpecialist



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:49 pm Reply with quote
Paploo wrote:
I'm just going to ignore the whinging and say, bring it on YTV! It'll be fun to have a new magical girl show on YTV, it's been such a long time. Given it's a younger kids show, I don't imagine there'll be many edits, and I hope they dub the original theme song, but will be sure to tune in for whatever they do, and I hope it'll be a fun show to attract a new generation of anime fans yet again. I think people severly underestimate the importance of kids anime to the industry.

Toei does have a produced subtitled version lying around due to their Direct2Drive promotion, so I imagine that if anyone does license it for DVD, they *might* get access to both versions.


I'll be looking forward to that show as well, as I've been itching to watch a new magical girl show on YTV. It helps that this one looks to be trendy enough for a new audience (cell-phones as transformation trinkets, anyone? Wink ).

I'm sure that Toei will make sure that the series gets a DVD release once it gets notorious, which I'm hoping for.
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samuelp
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:00 pm Reply with quote
I heard an interesting bit of info from Bandai the other day about this show, by the way...


The origin of it was that Bandai wanted to make a toy cell phone for girls, and so they approached Toei about making a show that would feature it, and they came up with using them as transformation items/mascot characters. Thus, Pretty Cure was born!

It's the truth, the show really did spawn directly from the product concept.
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ZeetherKID77



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:58 pm Reply with quote
If it does get a dual-audio DVD release they should make the dub uncut.
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MrAnimeSpecialist



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:40 pm Reply with quote
ZeetherKID77 wrote:
If it does get a dual-audio DVD release they should make the dub uncut.


Either that, or they'll take the Geneon route and have both the edited dub and uncut Japanese tracks. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:42 pm Reply with quote
Thankfully outside of script editing, there's nothing VISUALLY to edit abou tPretty Cure. No blood, a bit of fighting and punching violence but nothing where the girls are the ones that are hit directly (it's always the bad guys getting slammed), so visual edits should be minimal at most.
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firecrouch



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:05 pm Reply with quote
Exactly how "Americanized' can we expect this dub to be? Because it varies.
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KabaKabaFruit



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:20 pm Reply with quote
As a Canadian anime fan for 16 years, I have to say something regarding this matter:

1. I'm excited about this. No...really! I am excited about this. For the first time in a while, YTV acquires the license to an anime that has notoriety and appeals to girls (and boys(!)).
2. There is no question that this show will get a localization treatment. As someone who has watched the episodes uncut on Crunchroll, there is no doubt that the music will be replaced. The BGM in the series is too slow paced and high pitched at times to really feel exciting. The only Japanese themes that should stay though are the OP and ED as they are fast paced and quirky.
3. I don't know about the rest of you, but I would like to see the dub handled by Kaleidoscope entertainment. They were the same dub group that handled the Sanrio Keroppi and Hello Kitty as well as the DiC dub of Sailor Moon. I'm not ribbing on the Ocean Group or anything but I think we've seen too much of the Ocean Group and not enough of Kaleidoscope. I'm sure Tony Daniels, Tracey Moore, and Roland Parliament have come a long way since '95 in their acting skills. This would be a great series for Kaleidoscope to get back on.
4. Considering that YTV approached Toei directly for this series, I have a suspicion that YTV may had originally wanted to get the Sailor Moon license back but were denied as a result of the ongoing dispute between Toei and Naoko Takeuchi. So, Pretty Cure may had been the next best thing for YTV.

That said, I'm looking forward to the series premiere and seeing how the dub is handled. Smile
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