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Roi
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Yeah i thought that at first but i wasn't sure |
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jr240483
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Vol 2 wes definately decent enough. though it's ashame it ain't showing on any broadcasts.Would've been nice if AS or IFC was showing it.
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maaya
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I agree on that. spoiler[I also think that Teresa simply let her guard down because she believed in those words. She definitely easily dominated Prissy without using nearly all her power before (and Irene says so as well).]
On the other hand we don`t know whether Prissy really "pulled" something or whether she herself was sincere, but in the end lost against the Yoma-part and its power, causing her to completely lose control over herself. spoiler[In the manga and to a certain degree in the anime as well later on she definitely isn`t portrayed as a wicked evil being, but more like a lost, confused child, who was unable to control herself.]
I wonder. To me, the ending (i.e. the last 3? episodes in the series) was really, really, really bad. So I think it`s better to prepare yourself for the worst, and then it might turn out to be not as bad as expected ^^; But everything before that is still decent and if you dislike the anime ending you can always read the manga. edit: added spoiler tags (... hopefully at the right place oO ) Last edited by maaya on Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:47 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I've already seen it, which is why I can wait for a cheaper boxset. |
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Roi
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spoiler[I'm still in shock to what happened to Teresa, she looked like a very prominent character. I didn't think she would die so early in the series. Now im going to try to watch episode 8 again, not sure if i can. The scene was just to much for me to bear, just like the ending of Cowboy Bebop]
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Chrno2
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Oh that got me too.
I really have to admit I was highly impressed with this series for what it was. I may have to start collecting the manga now. Definitely on my "next to buy" list. Looks like 'Moribito' won't be the only series I pick up this next year. Good review, but not sure what you mean by flaws in "shonen" formula. |
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bluegreen
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Yeah Claymore was a great show. Its too bad it starts to tank near the last couple of episodes. I sort of wish that they just took a break and made a second season once more of the manga came out instead of creating an ending out of thin air. Seriously, they were about to hit some of the best parts of the manga when they ended the show
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Chrno2
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You said it, definitely agree on that. I mean they did it with 'Black Lagoon', and look he's getting a 3rd season. But it is hard to kind of close up loose ends on a whim. 'Berserk' suffered the same fate. But after digging through finding an interview on Miura and hearing an old rumor, it was believed that he didn't want a second season. Not to mention he did help with the re-scripting. And was very adamant about the studio making changes. If anyone was going to do any changes it was going to be him. After watching 'Claymore', I had to take a look at the manga. Considering how much they left intact with slight changes I was pretty satisfied with the ending. But I also would have liked a 2nd season that continues with the manga. Since that may not happen I can rest easy knowing that I'm not spoiling anything if I continue the story with the manga. 
Again good show. Looking back at the review I may now understand what flaws he was talking about. |
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Key
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maaya, the first part of your last post is edging on being spoilerish.
Okay, I've had about enough of the bashing of the last couple of episodes without saying anything. I'm not going comment on this much now, because this space is supposed to be about the second volume's content and I will have a lot more to say about this issue when the last volume comes out, but the series did not tank towards the end. Yeah, some parts got a bit cheesy, but it was clear to me that the ending was precisely designed to bring together everything that the series was about up to that point, and do so in a way that wasn't too far removed from the manga. If you don't get how that happened, rewatch those last couple of episodes with what I've been saying in the first two reviews in mind. If you still don't get what I mean, then look up the Claymore thread in the Anime forum or wait until the last volume comes out and I'll be happy to wear your ear off about it then. |
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bluegreen
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Roi
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yeah thats what im thinking on doing. Watching it and then reading the Manga. Thats how i got attached to beserk manga. Beserk's ending felt rushed and missed a lot of things. So when im done watching claymore i'll start getting the mangas for it.
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maaya
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I disagree  Knowing about the manga allows you to consider that this is "anime only" and that they maybe didn't have a better way to end everything because the manga is still ongoing and going into a quite different direction etc.
Not knowing the manga makes the ending seem even worse (to some people), because then it makes no sense at all. I've seen plenty of people, unfortunately, who didn't know the manga and gave up completely on the whole series thanks to the anime's ending, because they thought the manga would be just as bad (that's their fault of course). But just wanted to make clear, that those disliking the ending really aren't only those who have read the manga. But yes, as Key said, let's keep this discussion for the final volume, when we can actually discuss this while giving examples and not only a vague "that was bad", "the manga is better". |
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Key
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Oh, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I do think a lot of people are totally missing the point about that ending, perhaps because they're looking for something else.
Um, I have reviewed Volume 11 and Volume 12 of the manga over the course of the year, and that doesn't change my opinion at all about the anime ending. The anime had to do things a bit differently because it was only scheduled to be 26 episodes, not an ongoing story, so it had to have some kind of definitive ending or else we'd have another Berserk on our hands. Given that, and given how everything in the anime had set up to that point, what other way to end the story in the wake of the Pieta arc would have made sense? Is the final fight scene cheesy? Yeah, can't deny that. But to call the whole final couple of episodes "terrible" is to deny everything else those episodes did right. Geez, I'm violating my own rule now. Gotta stop that.  We will talk more later about this, I think.
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