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NEWS: Media Blasters Drops Lodoss Wars Release Plans


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V1046-R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:56 am Reply with quote
RyanSaotome wrote:
Cartoon boobs even sell in America, huh? I always thought Americans hated ecchi but I guess not.


Guys (and some girls) love boobs, regardless where they are from. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:01 am Reply with quote
Running Wild wrote:
Makes me sad that good classic anime gets the shaft while there is shit like Squid Girl being released.

Sigh, if only there were thousands upon thousands of additional anime consumers for releases of "good classic anime". Mind, the invidious distinction with Squid Girl is neither meat nor fowl, and so red herring: a release that refunds its costs does not "take money away from" some other more marginal prospect.

Luckily, samuelp (aka quarkboy) has a venture that could well take good classic anime that is not viable for a conventional license and make it viable for a crowdfinanced release.

TurnerJ wrote:
Surrender Artist wrote:

I believe that Nozomi's policy is not to go to the expense of an English dub anymore. I believe that the last Nozomi title that was dubbed in English was The Third, which was released mostly in 2007.

True, although I think that was when they were just getting started in the industry. Now that they have a bit of a grapple right now, maybe they could try again. ...

Yes, when they were just getting started, they experimented with dubbing, and as a result of the experiment decided to not do that again. Of course they include a dub if one's already available, but they've found their market niche, picking up recent titles and classics that the other distributors have passed on where they believe they can put together a nice low-volume release that can find enough of a market to succeed at that scale.

And that market niche does not include titles that are even on the margin of being able to refund a dub.

E.g., Erica Friedman reported that Nozomi were "happy" with the performance of Maria-sama ga Miteru. If they had dubbed that, even for twice the sales, that would have almost certainly have left them quite unhappy. So a second subtitle track in a series where a substantial share of the market will appreciate a subtitle with honorifics ~ sure. Translating booklets that came with an anniversary re-release ~ sure. Commissioning a new dub? No way.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:15 am Reply with quote
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Monster in a box wrote:
It's good to hear they'll dub all of QB at least. It's a terrible show, but I watched the first season in passing on Netflix, and I really enjoyed hearing Excel screeching again...hopefully she doesn't damage her vocal chords and get replaced again.

I wouldn't hold my breath for it. I'm expecting in a few weeks to hear that they aren't going to dub it after all.

Looks like Media Blasters will be dead soon. Sad


I watched the first season a year ago while I played Pangya, looking at the screen in between shots. I'm definitely not holding my breath. Still, a sub-only rush release of the 3rd season seems like it would only hurt the chance of someone else dubbing it in the future, so it's good that they're not doing that at least.
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LagannImpact



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:36 am Reply with quote
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Sub-porn isn't breaking a company that's been responsible for bring in real porn for decades.


Wait, Media Blasters is a REAL PORN in addition to being an anime company with several ecchi-laced titles!? That's...not as surprising as it should be.
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CrownKlown



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:05 pm Reply with quote
Ill be the first to admit chronicles of a heroic knight is the second worst sequel behind gundam seed destiny, to an original that I would call a masterpiece. The original OVA is by far one of the best fantasy series ever made. I already both releases of the dvd, pink box and red collector's series; but would have loved to see it on blu ray.

Personally I am not terribly impressed by Queen's Blade.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:18 pm Reply with quote
Conan-san wrote:
RyanSaotome wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
And people Said Queens Blade wouldn't hurt the industry. Well, here we are, in a world where Lodss War is getting denied it's Blu Ray release and we're getting as much badly done sub-porn as we want.


How exactly is an anime being very popular and making money for many parties involved "Hurting the industry"?

It hurts the industry when that's all a company (That isn't expresively in it for the porn) puts out (...huh).

Queen's Blade should have been a foundation upon which stuff like Lodss War and Bakuman should have come forth.

Instead, it's the only, really crappy, game in town. You want things that ADV or Funi won't release? Better hope someone else comes pops out of nowhere to do it because all Media Blasters wants is to fart out some more awful crap that, frankly, is an embarrassment to the idea of animated porn.

"Here lies Media Blasters; instead of going out in a blaze of fire, they farted out some badly done crap that barely qualifies as titillating"


You make it seem like Media Blasters is just full of perverts who want to release nothing but ecchi anime even as it kills their bottomline.

Anime companies are not some charity who are going to release shows that they don't think will sell just because you really want the Lodoss war OVA.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:55 pm Reply with quote
Sweet, at least Queen's Blade is saved.

And if we are lucky, it will make enough to save Media Blasters at least for a little while.
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V1046-R



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:05 pm Reply with quote
Charred Knight wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
RyanSaotome wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
And people Said Queens Blade wouldn't hurt the industry. Well, here we are, in a world where Lodss War is getting denied it's Blu Ray release and we're getting as much badly done sub-porn as we want.


How exactly is an anime being very popular and making money for many parties involved "Hurting the industry"?

It hurts the industry when that's all a company (That isn't expresively in it for the porn) puts out (...huh).

Queen's Blade should have been a foundation upon which stuff like Lodss War and Bakuman should have come forth.

Instead, it's the only, really crappy, game in town. You want things that ADV or Funi won't release? Better hope someone else comes pops out of nowhere to do it because all Media Blasters wants is to fart out some more awful crap that, frankly, is an embarrassment to the idea of animated porn.

"Here lies Media Blasters; instead of going out in a blaze of fire, they farted out some badly done crap that barely qualifies as titillating"


You make it seem like Media Blasters is just full of perverts who want to release nothing but ecchi anime even as it kills their bottomline.

Anime companies are not some charity who are going to release shows that they don't think will sell just because you really want the Lodoss war OVA.


lol, is sub-porn a new category? I have never viewed animated T & A as anywhere close to being pornography. Although I did think Queens Blade was rather cheesy, like the "B" movies with bimbos made in America. But shocking, or offensivie? Puhleeze, not at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:37 pm Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
Queen's Blade should have been a foundation upon which stuff like Lodss War and Bakuman should have come forth.


All I see is proof that Queen's Blade is superior to both Lodoss War and Bakuman and people like it more.

Once their Queen's Blade cow dries up, that means they'll have to release Qwaser next. To which I rejoice.
I'm saying nothing, I'll just let you stew in the fact that you just called Queens Blade better than Bakuman and Lodoss War and realise how utterly stupid that statement is.

Then again, if you're calling for Qwaser as well, there might not be any saving you.

V1046-R wrote:

lol, is sub-porn a new category? I have never viewed animated T & A as anywhere close to being pornography. Although I did think Queens Blade was rather cheesy, like the "B" movies with bimbos made in America. But shocking, or offensivie? Puhleeze, not at all.
It's offensive insomuch that it's about as titillating as Margaret Thatcher in a cold shower.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:27 pm Reply with quote
Well I'm definitely dissapointed that Record of Lodoss War wont be released, cause it's a definite classic. At least i'm glad they'll be licensing and giving all of the Queens Blade OVA and TV series an english dub. especially the upcoming Rebellion series.

HOWEVER, I hope this also includes the OVA that was the sequel to season 2 as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:28 pm Reply with quote
Conan-san wrote:
TitanXL wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
Queen's Blade should have been a foundation upon which stuff like Lodss War and Bakuman should have come forth.


All I see is proof that Queen's Blade is superior to both Lodoss War and Bakuman and people like it more.

Once their Queen's Blade cow dries up, that means they'll have to release Qwaser next. To which I rejoice.
I'm saying nothing, I'll just let you stew in the fact that you just called Queens Blade better than Bakuman and Lodoss War and realise how utterly stupid that statement is.

Then again, if you're calling for Qwaser as well, there might not be any saving you..


People have opinions... and sometimes they differ from you. I know its tough to understand that not everyone agrees on everything, though.

And yes, I also agree that Queen's Blade is better than those shows... since it gives better entertainment value to me. And thats all that matters in the long run.
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Kakugo



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:13 pm Reply with quote
Conan-san wrote:
And people Said Queens Blade wouldn't hurt the industry. Well, here we are, in a world where Lodss War is getting denied it's Blu Ray release and we're getting as much badly done sub-porn as we want.


Read jsevakis' posts in the dang thread, guy. We were never getting a Blu-ray release of Lodoss War, and it's not any other title's fault. The fact that Media Blasters didn't do their homework before announcing the license doesn't mean anything other than John Sirabella is good at shooting his mouth off without anything substantial enough to back it up.

You clearly have zero grasp of the titles that established Media Blasters as a successful company. They had stuff like Kenshin and Berserk and some real high-quality mainstream TV shows, sure, but they were literally founded on fun, exploitive garbage, and their Exploitation Digital and Kitty Media sublabels have released explicit hardcore material that must number well into the hundreds! If you think the over the top, but firmly tongue in cheek sensuality Queen's Blade is an affront to humanity and the evolution of this artform, try watching Kite: Uncut, Bondage Game, Bible Black or Apocalypse Zero... just do so with a bucket handy. You might need it. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:44 am Reply with quote
Record of Lodoss War is so old right now that I don't think potential sales would justify creating a Blu ray master from what master tapes exist...

That's something a lot of people here don't understand.

A limited DVD re-release with cleaned up video makes a lot more sense.

Many of the older series and movies just don't have hi-def masters ready to slap onto Blu ray. Those masters have to be created from scratch from existing film materials and it's still an expensive process. Even with a show like DBZ (as we've seen recently) sometimes the crowd just isn't there to justify the costs.

To be honest, a lot of the older shows just don't merit hi-def treatment. If you're a purist, you have to be aware they were never made to be seen in hi-def! Also, some of the existing coloring and animation mistakes will only look worse in hi-def. The best thing is to be happy with low-grade scale-up from a progressive scan DVD player or Blu ray player and watch from an HDTV with the appropriate video settings unless you have an old tube set.

There are TV series and OVAs that don't have film material anymore. They are literally video-only. Nobody knows where the original 16mm or 35mm film reels are anymore! I understand that is the case with a lot of the Pioneer anime created in the early to mid-1990s.

Where hi-def remastering makes sense is definitely with full-color feature films (and some more popular B & W features where it can be justified). Feature films generally sell more copies upfront than most TV series and are something that can be re-released perennially through upgrades in existing technology and releases in new technology form.

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The anime market has been shrinking going on the better part of 10 years now and there is still a large online segment that won't pay for gets released. The FBI and whoever can go after the upload pirates but fact is that tech thieves are bright and will adapt and find new ways to get these things online. The copyright police waited too long to do anything, never bothered to understand the Net and digital distribution, and they will never have a complete clamp-down on illegal file distribution.

Now, on the other hand, there are people who don't understand the facts of life and go on shooting their mouths off as if whining like a brat is going to make titles materialize on video shelves sooner! To begin with, a huge chunk of the anime being produced now doesn't even end up in local video stores anymore. Most of the Sentai releases will NEVER show up at Best Buy let alone Target, Wal-Mart, or FYE. Likewise, I just learned about the release of First Squad and I never saw that film anywhere on Blu ray OR DVD where I live (which is a fairly big market) and it's been available since 1/17/2012 --- ONLINE only...

Most of the surviving licensors have scaled back tremendously and I think everyone is a bit nervous on where the market is headed with the announcements from the beginning of the year being so ominous.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:16 pm Reply with quote
Kakugo wrote:
If you think the over the top, but firmly tongue in cheek sensuality Queen's Blade is an affront to humanity and the evolution of this artform, try watching Kite: Uncut, Bondage Game, Bible Black or Apocalypse Zero... just do so with a bucket handy. You might need it. Wink


And let's not forget the tastefully done masterpiece, Princess 69 Laughing

Anyways, this is unfortunate news for anyone that was looking forward to it, but to blame it on titles like Queen's Blade is just plain silly.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:36 pm Reply with quote
Kakugo wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
And people Said Queens Blade wouldn't hurt the industry. Well, here we are, in a world where Lodss War is getting denied it's Blu Ray release and we're getting as much badly done sub-porn as we want.


Read jsevakis' posts in the dang thread, guy. We were never getting a Blu-ray release of Lodoss War, and it's not any other title's fault. The fact that Media Blasters didn't do their homework before announcing the license doesn't mean anything other than John Sirabella is good at shooting his mouth off without anything substantial enough to back it up.

You clearly have zero grasp of the titles that established Media Blasters as a successful company. They had stuff like Kenshin and Berserk and some real high-quality mainstream TV shows, sure, but they were literally founded on fun, exploitive garbage, and their Exploitation Digital and Kitty Media sublabels have released explicit hardcore material that must number well into the hundreds! If you think the over the top, but firmly tongue in cheek sensuality Queen's Blade is an affront to humanity and the evolution of this artform, try watching Kite: Uncut, Bondage Game, Bible Black or Apocalypse Zero... just do so with a bucket handy. You might need it. Wink


bucket handy??? are you serious???

there's is not one otaku,myself included that hasn't watched the uncut versions of kite or mezzo forte. Nor have watched the other Kitty Media classics like Bible Black ( though i prefer the ova over the other three ) Discipline,Angel Blade , Viper GTS and others.

Though cause of this i was expecting MB to license Kodmo no jikan and it's sister company kitty media to license Choijusi & Aki Sora.

Like it or not its the sign of the times. Hopefully this move doesn't mean the end of MB in the long haul. which is my point on a previous thread.

HOW IN THE HOLY HIGH HELL DO COMPANIES LIKE MB AND OTHERS ARE IN TROUBLE TO STAY AFLOAT AND SOMETIMES GO SIX FEET UNDER & GOD FORSAKEN AWFUL ONES LIKE THE HORROR THAT IS 4KIDS IS HANGING ON BY A FREAKING THREAD??? HUH????
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