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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:39 am Reply with quote
Enjoyed Rakugo a lot, though I'd also fall into the camp of people who weren't as emotionally invested in it as a lot of the episode review responses seemed to suggest people were. I watched Floating Weeds while watching this & honestly I was left wishing they'd not just taken visual inspiration from that film, but story as well - since I personally really didn't like Rakugo's occasional slip into the maudlin & cliche. The two main female characters as well were, to be frank, pretty weak compared to their male counterparts & the next season will have some explaining to do with regards to its last minute revelation about Konatsu.

Indeed, I'd be tempted to go so far as to say that the main thing which make's Rakugo stand out is the fact that it is animated. A period drama of its type seems a much more natural fit for live action. Although, given the state Japanese cinema & TV seem to be in atm, I'm glad it wasn't done that way.

Also, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the impact of the climax to Yakumo's story was lost on me because spoiler[there's clearly a window ledge or balcony that Sukeroku could swing onto if he wasn't so busy having his tragic death].
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Akira Ashida's central performance as Kikuhiko can occasionally seem a little strained, but his affectation almost fits for a melodrama focused on performance.

Think you meant Akira Ishida. Wink

But yes, the voice work in this series was spectacular. Ishida totally gets my vote for best actor for the next Seiyuu Awards, unless something beyond amazing comes up within the next 7-8 months.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:56 am Reply with quote
Lemonchest wrote:

Also, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the impact of the climax to Yakumo's story was lost on me because spoiler[there's clearly a window ledge or balcony that Sukeroku could swing onto if he wasn't so busy having his tragic death].
spoiler[ The ledge Kikuhiko was holding on to them was cracking under the pressure so it would have definitely broke if they applied more undue pressure on it as swinging two people would have done. If it could have been done he would have to grab a window ledge with one hand or he would have to hope the balcony would not break from impact which again is highly unlikely.]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:37 am Reply with quote
Lemonchest wrote:

Also, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the impact of the climax to Yakumo's story was lost on me because spoiler[there's clearly a window ledge or balcony that Sukeroku could swing onto if he wasn't so busy having his tragic death].


spoiler[There is actually the theory that Bon's version of the story is wrong. Atleast the way it ended. If we think about the first episode the death was different from Konatsu's perspective. Bon's version felt too much like an actual rakugo. We will see in Season 2 what really happened.]
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Lemonchest



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:11 am Reply with quote
TheRahi00 wrote:
Lemonchest wrote:

Also, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but the impact of the climax to Yakumo's story was lost on me because spoiler[there's clearly a window ledge or balcony that Sukeroku could swing onto if he wasn't so busy having his tragic death].


spoiler[There is actually the theory that Bon's version of the story is wrong. Atleast the way it ended. If we think about the first episode the death was different from Konatsu's perspective. Bon's version felt too much like an actual rakugo. We will see in Season 2 what really happened.]

I've seen that theory, mostly based on the idea that he's meant to be an unreliable narrator giving an embellished version of what happened as he'd like to remember it. That might come up in S2, but in S1 his story is framed very much in a "let me finally tell you what really happened" way, as though he's finally getting it off his chest & setting the record straight with Konatsu. That would certainly be in keeping with the period of cinema & literature Showa has taken influence from.
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My only issue, in an otherwise perfect or near perfect series was the death.spoiler[ It wasn't such a tall building, and they were hanging down from it. They both shouldn't of died, or at least not at least died later from injuries. Also taking into account that they doped straight, so while broken legs are highly possible, I doubt that would kill you. One last thing is that he was holding onto her, so she would of hit the floor first, and helped break Bons fall.]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:39 pm Reply with quote
MarshalBanana wrote:
My only issue, in an otherwise perfect or near perfect series was the death.spoiler[ It wasn't such a tall building, and they were hanging down from it. They both shouldn't of died, or at least not at least died later from injuries. Also taking into account that they doped straight, so while broken legs are highly possible, I doubt that would kill you. One last thing is that he was holding onto her, so she would of hit the floor first, and helped break Bons fall.]
You should put spoiler tag on the issue because that's a huge spoiler.
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Ironically, the inevitable tragedy was caused not by jealousy, unrequited love, or frustrated ambitions, but spoiler[bad carpentry].

Also, if we're debating the anatomical physics of that scene, spoiler[it's pretty much impossible to bear the weight of two people with one hand, unless you're a serious weightlifter. Try hanging from a bar by one hand: you get tired very quickly. Now imagine double that weight. Kiku is thin as a rail and probably doesn't lift anything heavier than a paper fan all day.]

This is not bad writing, it's evidence that Kiku at the very least took some dramatic liberties while telling the story.
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However, the show's embracing of its own melodramatic, theatrical forms also ends up being its greatest weakness.


I don't agree one bit with this statement, but Nick goes out of his way to explain this as his personal experience in the following paragraphs, so no need to argue. But then again, I kind of want to argue that the theatrics and melodrama were quintessential to telling this story about people casting themselves in their own tragedy. Where safer to deal with emotion than on stage, where there are no consequences for loving, yearning, and suffering, where you will only be judged by your performance and not as who you are, making it so much easier to experiment with being yourself?

Even when not on stage, the performance doesn't end, which was communicated extremely well through embracing the drama. After the penultimate episode, I think it's pretty clear what some of that all too heightened reality can be attributed to.

I agree that my intellectual appreciation of how perfect the direction was trumped my emotional involvement, though. I always felt I was too busy marveling at a shot composition, musical choice or voice performance (someone give Akira Ishida a medal) to let a scene sink in emotionally. Kind of like Maho Shojo Madoka Magica, in a very different way.

It's great to see this exceptional series getting more immediate attention and, despite the quoted statement I can't agree with, so much respect.
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Gina Szanboti



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the show's theatrical style of characterization can make it seem somewhat impersonal.

I think this is a feature, not a bug. Smile Except for episode 1 and 13, this is all told by Yakumo, so it's not surprising that it feels somewhat impersonal. If there was ever a man who guarded his emotions, it's Yakumo. Maybe it's just me, but that sense of distance from the characters is absent from the first and last episodes, when he is not the storyteller. The tone of the "present day" episodes is very different from the rest of the story (and it might be one reason some people who liked the first episode didn't enjoy the episodes in the past as much and couldn't wait to get back to the "present.").
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:48 pm Reply with quote
^Very much agreed.
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I think this is a feature, not a bug.

I loved that quirk! And i love how more obvious the theatrical side becomes over the course of the show as the climax puts a final dot in Kiku's story of the past.
The second season will definitely have more of a down-to-earth feel to it. It will be interesting to see tonal differences between two parts and compare them.
I can't say i agree with everything Nick said, but nevertheless it's always fascinating to see people's thoughts and opinions on the series. Thank you for the review!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:45 pm Reply with quote
Certainly, Akira Ishida's performance in this series has been spectacular. I hope if it gets a physical (DVD/Blu-Ray) release over here there's going to be extras of the complete Rakugo stories told. Even in the snippets of him telling 'Shinigami', I had the shivers, it was such a great vocal performance.

It was a fantastic series, and I was so glad to see it's getting a second season, because really we need more anime of this quality to show what the medium is capable of.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:45 pm Reply with quote
crosswithyou wrote:
Think you meant Akira Ishida. Wink

I don't understand why there's even a link to the Encyclopedia for Akira Ashida, since nothing at all is credited to that name. Did Nick's typo somehow create the entry or something? Question

Anyway, now that we have the good news of the second season, how much longer will we have to wait for news of a disk release? I suppose I wouldn't mind if they waited until the 2nd season was underway and they released it as a complete collection though...

While I'm dreaming, wouldn't it be nice to get a New Generation dub for this (it just seems like the kind of project Jonathan Klein and Taliesin Jaffe would revel in, given the challenges of the script)? With some of the dubs coming out of Funi and Sentai lately, I'd almost rather have no dub.
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Merida



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:13 am Reply with quote
Gina Szanboti wrote:
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the show's theatrical style of characterization can make it seem somewhat impersonal.

I think this is a feature, not a bug. Smile


Very much agreed (to everything Knoepfchen said as well)!

S2 can't come soon enough for me. Smile
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