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Zin5ki



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:08 am Reply with quote
Thank you for your concerns. Rumours have arisen that certain streaming providers might consider abandoning their free provisions to British viewers, as a means of mitigating against our plummeting currency. I imagine our fan community will survive, even if recent progress in transatlantic access to legal streaming is undone somewhat.
Justin wrote:
Does anyone know when the new season of The Great British Bake Off starts? I feel like if anything can re-unite the people of the UK, it's that.

Hardly! Some of us abstain from television, what with licence fees and whatnot.
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John Thacker



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:11 am Reply with quote
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The whole situation is ugly as hell, and it's bringing out the absolute worst in people. All of my UK friends are understandably freaked out,


The worst in people in any crisis includes passing along panicky anecdotes as fact (including some ridiculously bad Google Trends stories that don't include a y-axis and refer to a small number of people). I think it's strange and unrepresentative if all your UK friends are freaked out, considering that only 43% of Britons surveyed describe themselves as "Unhappy" with the results, leaving a decent amount of Remainers both indifferent and even describing themselves as happy. (Even among all demographics and areas, polling shows substantial proportions of people voting both ways, so uniformity seems a bit odd.)

Some of my UK friends are angry or freaked out, some are indifferent, and some are happy. My American and Canadian friends seem to have more consistent views against (even though oddly enough, my Canadian friends mostly do not favor political union with the USA-- political union between the US and Canada would help with Canadians getting regionally locked out of anime and other streaming content, though.)

The exchange rate will have the greatest effect on the anime business.


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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:14 am Reply with quote
I considered asking this question. I'm glad someone did.

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Does anyone know when the new season of The Great British Bake Off starts?

Paul Holiday was on yesterday's Top Gear. I haven't watched any of that past the first episode, but I'll watch that one to see if the topic comes up.[/quote]
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TheRahi00



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:16 am Reply with quote
John Thacker wrote:
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The whole situation is ugly as hell, and it's bringing out the absolute worst in people. All of my UK friends are understandably freaked out,


I think it's strange and unrepresentative if all your UK friends are freaked out, considering that only 43% of describe themselves as "Unhappy" with the results, leaving a decent amount of Remainers both indifferent and even describing themselves as happy.


What a strange thing to say. You do realize that you are talking about 43%. That's a lot and it wouldn't be too far fetched to say that all his/her friends are from the 43%. Don't really get what you were trying to say with this.
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Things are an utter and complete mess. England has no Prime Minister, the previous one having resigned without making any sort of plans as to how such a pull-out would be implemented. Political forces in Scotland are talking about breaking away from the UK and joining the EU by itself. Two of the major political parties are coming apart at the seams, government officials are resigning left and right, the value of the British Pound has cratered, and the world financial system is basically on the floor in the fetal position.


Pretty much. My best friend basically said his family's screwed as they did shipping and receiving between the UK and the rest of the EU. It was a family run business too. They're essentially screwed because of the results. He basically begged me if he could come stay with me.

Zin5ki wrote:
Thank you for your concerns. Rumours have arisen that certain streaming providers might consider abandoning their free provisions to British viewers, as a means of mitigating against our plummeting currency.


If its anything like what happened when the CAD plummeted, Crunchyroll might pull out or at the very least, pull the free viewer catalog. That was Canada specific when it first happened too; nobody else got affected by it.


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MrTerrorist



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:18 am Reply with quote
Thanks for asking the question on how Brexit will affect the UK anime market.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:21 am Reply with quote
Also to consider, I use several UK online stores to order stuff occasionally, and in trade within EU there hasn't been any customs fees. Should those return, me being in Finland, it might become more affordable to start ordering manga etc from US/Japan directly, or possibly from other retailers within EU elsewhere...
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:27 am Reply with quote
Brexit will benefit the UK in the long run, don't worry about it too much, although the attacks on other people are horrible. Brexit also is making Abe panic which is quite hilarious, that tyrant needed a peg or two knocked out of him when it comes to his economic policies. Also Brexit could kill TTIP, which the TTIP is an arm of the overall articles of tyranny known as TPP.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:31 am Reply with quote
TheRahi00 wrote:
John Thacker wrote:
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The whole situation is ugly as hell, and it's bringing out the absolute worst in people. All of my UK friends are understandably freaked out,


I think it's strange and unrepresentative if all your UK friends are freaked out, considering that only 43% of describe themselves as "Unhappy" with the results, leaving a decent amount of Remainers both indifferent and even describing themselves as happy.


What a strange thing to say. You do realize that you are talking about 43%. That's a lot and it wouldn't be too far fetched to say that all his/her friends are from the 43%. Don't really get what you were trying to say with this.


Not to mention the entirety of the UK didn't take part in that poll. I didn't know it was there. I have a feeling a lot more leavers are going to become part of the 'unhappy' bunch more and more as things progress as well if the past few days have been anything to go by. Don't think the government has any clue what they're doing. Which isn't really a surprise tbh.
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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:40 am Reply with quote
We haven't had this much civil division since the 1640's. Thankfully no one's reaching for their pike, musket, and cannon just yet, though sadly we have lost one MP due to the fervent hate it's rampted up. It's like a Cold Civil War. Not only does this have the potential to break up the EU, but also the UK as well when Scotland has it second referendum on becoming independant again seeing as 62% of Scotts voted to Remain, same with Northern Ireland. They could have their referendum to finally unit with the South, something that has spilled lakes of blood since 1629 to prevent. I'm an old git, but I voted to remain, but I can also understand someof my generation what voted to leave as we remember what it was like before signing up to the European Economic Community in 1973. I was all of 21 then. SAdly it seems many were looking back at those times with rose coloured specticals believeing that somehow we could turn the clock back to a time that now only exists in clouded old age delusion. I feel so bad for the youth who now have to remake the silk purse that took over 40 years to create out of the sow's ear that was the EEC. And all because of racial hate. Crying or Very sad
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mgosdin



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:42 am Reply with quote
It seems to me that some time needs to pass to allow people to figure out how, or if, this change will impact them.

The result was not entirely unexpected and you would have thought that financial people, as well as politicians, would have done some basic preparations to account for a possible "Leave" vote.

That they appear to have not done so it a bit of a surprise.

Now, where's my "Keep Calm and Head for the Exit" T-Shirt?

Mark Gosdin
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ParkerALx



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:46 am Reply with quote
Technically, I don't think Prime Minister Cameron has resigned yet, Justin, though I suppose the UK might as well not have a prime minister, since he'll be the lamest of lame ducks until he does make it official.
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jsevakis
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:03 pm Reply with quote
John Thacker wrote:
I think it's strange and unrepresentative if all your UK friends are freaked out, considering that only 43% of Britons surveyed describe themselves as "Unhappy" with the results, leaving a decent amount of Remainers both indifferent and even describing themselves as happy. (Even among all demographics and areas, polling shows substantial proportions of people voting both ways, so uniformity seems a bit odd.).


My friends in the UK are all either from Scotland, are Londoners, are in their 30s or younger, and several are from other EU countries originally, so they are not exactly an even mix of the UK electorate. I didn't want to get into the politics too deeply in the column, as I am far from expert in UK politics, but from what I've read I can understand both sides of the honest debate on the matter, as far as that went. I was grossed out by some of the race baiting that took place, and was deeply disappointed that it seemed an effective tactic.

It's also entirely possible to have voted leave and still be horrified and dismayed by what has transpired since -- the lies from elected officials, the complete lack of a plan, the way certain people have conducted themselves towards the non-ethnic British.
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Bearguy82



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:10 pm Reply with quote
If you take away the Scottish vote, the referendum turns into 70%-30% for Brexit. For Scotland to vote to leave the UK only to turn around and give up more independence to the EU than they ever did to UK under their current system would be truly ironic.

When it comes to any exiting economic agreement made, it would not benefit the EU by trying to put the screws to the UK out of spite for leaving. To do so would be a disservice to the remaining economies in the EU, and would make it even more likely other countries have a referendum of their own.

The EU was created to be an economic force to counter the USSR. One could certainly argue it has outlived its usefulness and is no longer necessary. Going forward, that it needs drastic restructuring in order to thrive or even survive is not debatable however. If things do not change in Brussels it becomes more and more likely the UK will only be the first to leave.

Citizens of the UK now have the opportunity to forge their own path based on what is best for them. Not what is best for those whose main concern is increasing their power and money. I can understand how the current uncertainty could create a certain level of anxiety for those too young to know what is like to live in a UK outside of the EU. I hope, once the dust has settled, those who voted remain see the world is not going to end. That they will come to realize a democratic society, where you can hold your elected officials accountable and control your own destiny, is much better for the people than allowing unelected officials, with no accountability, and in another country make decisions for you.

[Moderator's note: The 70%-30% statement is factually incorrect and can be verified here: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887]
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Kikaioh



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:11 pm Reply with quote
As I understand it, Prime Minister Cameron plans to officially pull out of office sometime later this year, to help in the meantime with transitioning to a different leadership.

From what I understand, a number of statistics are showing that mostly an uneducated elderly generation voted in favor of Brexit, driven in large part it seems by concerns with EU's policy of open-immigration between member countries.

Personally speaking, this doesn't seem like the sort of issue you would put up for a referendum in the first place. The voting public is generally uninformed about political structures like the EU to make an educated decision on the matter, not to mention foresee the various political and economic ramifications of secession. I had thought mob rule had long ago been upended by representative democracy, but I guess even the direction of an entire nation can dangerously be left up to the voice of the people.
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