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Alabaster Spectrum



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:16 am Reply with quote
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in terms of how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this sort of thing, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest period with just one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical" as opposed to "Boy you know I really want to watch this cause I think it'll be interesting on multiple levels".

I don't know, it's no genre, motif or appeal in particular but it's really hard not to look at anime as something like a schlock entertainment shovel ware medium the way the industry is playing things nowadays or at best that's the image it seems to be seeking to project to the rest of the world even as it's trying to expand it's operations overseas more.


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Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest with one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical".


Show me exactly on the doll where the gay touched you.
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Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest with one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical".


Show me exactly on the doll where the gay touched you.


That's not it at all and a simplification of what I'm getting at but I knew somebody would interpret it like that cause you know internet and opportunity right. It's far easier to interpret in terms of "Oh look at this guy being anti-gay" as opposed to the actual intention of "What are we even doing here anymore period". I mean does this strike you as a good way to tease something? Are you yourself particularly interested in this project? Those are the questions I ask myself anytime there's an announcement like this trying to pimp something (apparently based on numbers and established popularity which makes no sense if your making a commercial adaptation for something anyway) like this and the answer is just no. It would sound dumb to me even if it was just some sort of straight relationship thing, but if it was there wouldn't even be a storyline here cause half the hook is that it's supposed to be "ohhhhhh controversial" and possibly something for the internet to bicker over and find somebody to call intolerant.

It's just more of anime making itself as exclusive as it possibly can towards multiple demographics which again just strikes me as a really weird and frankly dumb direction for this industry to continue to try to go in if it's actually serious about trying to expand it's operations overseas. So see I'm thinking of a lot more here than just whatever lame homophobic brush you're trying to paint me with.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:34 am Reply with quote
Never heard of this one. I wish they would pick up more serious and higher quality bl than these fluffy pieces. They're just trying to draw in the unsuspecting consumer who will eat this stuff up without care for quality.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:37 am Reply with quote
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Never heard of this one. I wish they would pick up more serious and higher quality bl than these fluffy pieces. They're just trying to draw in the unsuspecting consumer who will eat this stuff up without care for quality.


That too. I mean hell I'll be honest I was a fan of Gravitation and it's music back in the early 2000's. Found it just the right amount of camp and appreciated that it focused as much on the music and mentor relationships as it did the romance story between Shuichi and Yuuki. It also was a great showcase of the talents of Weiss period. This? Bland synopsis that inspires nothing other than the question "why?" and from the sounds of it the cast is going to be pretty blah as well if that's who they got for the drama CD. Definitely no Weiss nor does it sound like it might have the J-Rock aspect to interest more than just straight BL fangirls.

It looks like we're in for a real glut of these sorts of titles and appeals in 2017 as well and to be honest I'm probably not planning on sticking around the anime scene for it if that's the case which it increasingly looks like. Just not what I got into anime or Asian media for, no way to spin it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:46 am Reply with quote
Damn, teacher-student relationships are definitely one of my 'no-no's, so I'll be passing on this as well. There are so many great BL series out there, and yet we keep getting power-imbalance or dub-con or NON-con...

Someone take one of Yamamoto Kotetsuko's series and do something wonderful with it, please?? There's an author whose works deserve to be animated.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:58 am Reply with quote
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:

It's just more of anime making itself as exclusive as it possibly can towards multiple demographics which again just strikes me as a really weird and frankly dumb direction for this industry to continue to try to go in if it's actually serious about trying to expand it's operations overseas. So see I'm thinking of a lot more here than just whatever lame homophobic brush you're trying to paint me with.


This has nothing to do with you being homophobic and everything to do with a gross oversimplification of the industry and complete childishness over how this is being reported.

Our fujoshi club at my university is nearly 2x bigger than our anime club. Studios pump out generic shit because generic shit sells, and there is no genre where generic shit sells better. Look at all the shitty moe anime that is overflowing in the industry these days. That's the way it has always been, you just caught the highlights growing up and think that you had some special snowflake anime because nostalgia goggles. 70% crap, 20% decent, 10% amazing.

If ANN didn't report on this, you'd likely never know it exists and yet the audience is profitable enough that it is being made. Same as Super Lovers which 90% of ANN hates but it is very profitable within the niche.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:05 am Reply with quote
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Someone take one of Yamamoto Kotetsuko's series and do something wonderful with it, please?? There's an author whose works deserve to be animated.

Omg YES, she is on fire lately and really deserves the attention. Something like Bokura no Negai or an older work like Dokidoki Renai would be amazing.

I can't think of any others off the top of my head but Yamada to Shonen by Mita Ori is really darling and I'd love to see it animated.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:05 am Reply with quote
#838774 wrote:
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest with one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical".


Show me exactly on the doll where the gay touched you.


LOL I was JUST thinking the exact same response. Anyways, to keep things on track, the article, yet again, neither references which image has the main characters for this anime nor who is who.

Ooo, great, visuals. Except I still have to GOOGLE who is who. You would think images for an article would have a caption like most "news" articles. I know ANN used to put captions to describe images or at LEAST point out who is who in images but that doesn't happen anymore if much at all it seems.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:12 am Reply with quote
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Damn, teacher-student relationships are definitely one of my 'no-no's, so I'll be passing on this as well. There are so many great BL series out there, and yet we keep getting power-imbalance or dub-con or NON-con...

Someone take one of Yamamoto Kotetsuko's series and do something wonderful with it, please?? There's an author whose works deserve to be animated.


This so so so very much. When will Japan hear our pleas and make a Yamamoto Kotetsuko anime. They could do Konya mo Nemurenai which has a very light tone and a fantasy setting, so it's got more to offer than just BL, or maybe adapt one of her short stories (like Lucky Number 13) into a movie. Or they could do Honto Yajuu and make all my BL dreams come true.

I'm probably gonna check this one out even though I'm feeling very little tolerance for power imbalance relationships after Super Lovers. If at least this was a college setting situation I would be more open to it but high school...:/ Then again, I suffered through all of Super Lovers and Junjou Romantica 3. At least the character designs in this one look cute.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:21 am Reply with quote
I used to be a bl reader but can't recall this and ya not much fan of techer-student. Lol can't even read stories regarding this theme. I think an Ova one episode or 2 not much.
Aww omg amamoto Kotetsuko's series most are light but well done I sure enjoyed her's mangas to read. Well at leas is a BL in making is a rarity anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:32 am Reply with quote
Sobe wrote:
#838774 wrote:
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest with one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical".


Show me exactly on the doll where the gay touched you.


LOL I was JUST thinking the exact same response. Anyways, to keep things on track, the article, yet again, neither references which image has the main characters for this anime nor who is who.

Ooo, great, visuals. Except I still have to GOOGLE who is who. You would think images for an article would have a caption like most "news" articles. I know ANN used to put captions to describe images or at LEAST point out who is who in images but that doesn't happen anymore if much at all it seems.


I guess that just shows how creative people are with their replies to things on the internet and also I'm pretty sure things have never strayed from the track. It's a commentary page and people are sharing their thoughts and ideas. Also yes ANN has gotten lazy in recent years with it's reporting. Hell I'm just grateful it actually bothers to distinguish between news, interest and advertorial with it's labels.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:52 am Reply with quote
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Sobe wrote:
#838774 wrote:
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Why does it matter how many copies something already has in print and why do the A-1 Pictures of the industry keep announcing things like this (I assume it's them yet again on one of these because of the language involved, established cast and because some reason they think these things need to be a surprise or something). Shouldn't a plot synopsis or actual details be more important to run through or do the A-1 Pictures of the industry literally just see everything in how much something has circulated or sold in it's original format already and think that's how everyone else should think too?

Of course somebody is going to come in and say something like "Boy it's great that a lot of these boy's love things are getting adapted now" as if it's some sort of new development that the industry is going increasingly after Japanese fringe interest groups with big spender tendencies so I'll just preempt that by saying I'm clearly not the target audience for this, kind of like most anime that gets made nowadays. Amazing how 20 years of following something as a hobby can suddenly amount to next to nothing to watch anymore in most seasons and a rapidly declining interest with one ultra hard shift in the industries direction towards mainly targeting fringe whale demographics mostly brought about by the whims of one, maybe one and a half producers that get far too many contracts and have far too much say in what gets prioritized in the production line. Almost every project that gets announced nowadays like it's supposed to be something the average person or even anime fan would want to watch either has me asking ".....why?" or saying "yeah that's typical".


Show me exactly on the doll where the gay touched you.


LOL I was JUST thinking the exact same response. Anyways, to keep things on track, the article, yet again, neither references which image has the main characters for this anime nor who is who.

Ooo, great, visuals. Except I still have to GOOGLE who is who. You would think images for an article would have a caption like most "news" articles. I know ANN used to put captions to describe images or at LEAST point out who is who in images but that doesn't happen anymore if much at all it seems.


I guess that just shows how creative people are with their replies to things on the internet and also I'm pretty sure things have never strayed from the track. It's a commentary page and people are sharing their thoughts and ideas. Also yes ANN has gotten lazy in recent years with it's reporting. Hell I'm just grateful it actually bothers to distinguish between news, interest and advertorial with it's labels.


Lazy? Obviously; Why would you be worth putting any effort into responding to given your inability to provide a similar "creative" response? Lol, I "guess" you just couldn't tell by how people were ALREADY responding to your posts. Rolling Eyes
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just saying, Maeno Tomoaki (not Yashiro Taku) voices Kousuke and Masuda Toshiki voices Masahiro... Confused
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Lol, I "guess" you just couldn't tell by how people were ALREADY responding to your posts. Rolling Eyes


......typically? Am I hot or cold here? I mean there's some sort of implication that I'm supposed to take something to heart here but truth be told I'm very rarely moved in any direction by the things that people say at me on the internet because quite often they're extremely vague at what they're even trying to get at and also because not very many things people say offend or "get at me" so much as make me curious. I mean I'm not most people so I get used to being frequently misunderstood and people often trying to start shit with me that I just want little part of. I don't really do arguing or debating unless it has the potential to generate new insights or ideas and this doesn't seem like one of those situations.

#838774 wrote:
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:

It's just more of anime making itself as exclusive as it possibly can towards multiple demographics which again just strikes me as a really weird and frankly dumb direction for this industry to continue to try to go in if it's actually serious about trying to expand it's operations overseas. So see I'm thinking of a lot more here than just whatever lame homophobic brush you're trying to paint me with.


This has nothing to do with you being homophobic and everything to do with a gross oversimplification of the industry and complete childishness over how this is being reported.

Our fujoshi club at my university is nearly 2x bigger than our anime club. Studios pump out generic shit because generic shit sells, and there is no genre where generic shit sells better. Look at all the shitty moe anime that is overflowing in the industry these days. That's the way it has always been, you just caught the highlights growing up and think that you had some special snowflake anime because nostalgia goggles. 70% crap, 20% decent, 10% amazing.

If ANN didn't report on this, you'd likely never know it exists and yet the audience is profitable enough that it is being made. Same as Super Lovers which 90% of ANN hates but it is very profitable within the niche.


That seems plausible enough, but it also highlights a thought that keeps coming to mind. I still think that the industry is sending major mixed messages with it's expansion into international streaming and the implication that it's trying to appeal more to demographics outside of Japan and outside of the fringe (I think this is partially because Japan is clueless on how to even go about working outside of it's safe place, basically the execution unable to or outright incapable of meeting the planning and goals) yet continuing to focus on projects that only established "otaku" and established fans of certain franchises or motifs could ever enjoy. It make it feel less like a concise plan to broaden the industries scope and more just like lets go with the tried and true and what's currently looking trend in profitability and keep taking shots in the dark with platforms like ACJ and the new production deals with Netflix and Amazon. If these initiatives fail it's not going to be because of those foreign parties even if I'm sure the Japanese industry ends up blaming them but because of Japan itself's unwillingness to commit to a new direction and new global vision in any way that doesn't come across as half-hearted and conservative.

All will become clear with what happens in the industry and what projects come to fruition in 2017 but IMO probably not much is going to change and there's a good chance Netflix, Amazon and other foreign parties just end up frustrated with what they get and similarly ACJ disappointed in it's projects performances.

TL;DR here is I'm regularly operating under the assumption that this industry is woefully incompetent and still unsure of what direction it wants to take even now as it tries to convince people and potential investors otherwise and a lot of what I have to say lately kind of works from that angle. Call it pessimistic but I've just never been one for blind optimism period, particularly when I'm not presented with many reasons to have any.


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