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REVIEW: Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya 3rei!!


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Izanagi009



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:21 am Reply with quote
If people want to be spoiled on what the hell Tanaka is, I can explain spoiler[In the Nasuverse, one of the concepts that's not really explained is that the planets are sentient. Not only are the planets like Earth sentient, they also have a "counter force" to help the earth survive. Tanaka is part of that counter force that is weakening due to the earth's degradation. Interesting, that degradation leads into one of Nasu's very old projects, a novel called Notes.]

As for the show itself, the animation during the big fight seemed to have degraded for me with some of it looking very blobby and unshaped when paused. The dilemma and resolution presented in the show is old hat for Nasu and I hope this part of the franchise explores it better than UBW. The mix of comedy and action is stronger than in 2wei Herz and i genuinely call this a decent show but it's not a good jumping point for newcomers
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dash56



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:25 am Reply with quote
I was enjoying this until the main antagonist/head of the family showed up. From there it was all down hill. Such a shame, I thought this would have been one of my favorites this season after such a great premiere.
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Catsplay



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:25 am Reply with quote
Well color me surprised this review was more fair than previous comments on Prisma Illya. It's too bad 3rei couldn't get a episode by episode review process.

The movie is covering the entire next arc of 3rei, which is a flashback arc of what happened to Shirou and Miyu before the events of the series (Which is literally how the last scene of the 3rei anime ended, with Shirou saying he'll explain their past). So it's both a continuation and a flashback and it answers several big mysteries that fans have been waiting for(With Shirou as the main character it takes on a far darker tone than anything previously). Most likely after that we'll go back to the anime season format.

Also I would say the Ainsworth are anything but uninspired, but since you don't know anything about Julian, Erica, or the rest of their family as of the end of the season, I can see how you came to that conclusion.

I think docking points for an unresolved plotline and mysteries is pretty silly considering its an on going series and even the manga its adapting hasn't finished yet. Most on-going long running series don't solve and explain everything within a single season.

P.S. Yeah 3rei is the most light of the loli fanservice but the few moments it does have it is tasteful and doesn't ever interrupt the main plotline (which is the fanservice I can get behind).


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synaia



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:26 am Reply with quote
Izanagi009 wrote:
If people want to be spoiled on what the hell Tanaka is, I can explain spoiler[In the Nasuverse, one of the concepts that's not really explained is that the planets are sentient. Not only are the planets like Earth sentient, they also have a "counter force" to help the earth survive. Tanaka is part of that counter force that is weakening due to the earth's degradation. Interesting, that degradation leads into one of Nasu's very old projects, a novel called Notes.]

As for the show itself, the animation during the big fight seemed to have degraded for me with some of it looking very blobby and unshaped when paused. The dilemma and resolution presented in the show is old hat for Nasu and I hope this part of the franchise explores it better than UBW. The mix of comedy and action is stronger than in 2wei Herz and i genuinely call this a decent show but it's not a good jumping point for newcomers


spoilering just in case, in the final ep spoiler[ I'm pretty sure the villain said he realized what Tanaka was and said she's a counter force.]
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dash56



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:31 am Reply with quote
Izanagi009 wrote:
spoiler[In the Nasuverse, one of the concepts that's not really explained is that the planets are sentient. Not only are the planets like Earth sentient, they also have a "counter force" to help the earth survive. Tanaka is part of that counter force that is weakening due to the earth's degradation. Interesting, that degradation leads into one of Nasu's very old projects, a novel called Notes.]


Oh that's really cool. spoiler[I thought that since Miyu was a Holy Grail that maybe Tanaka was some kind of manifestation of her subconscious or something to combat the Ainsworth family.]
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FilthyCasual



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:28 am Reply with quote
Technically we still don't know what Tanaka is (but that theory is a fairly good one).

As for the complaint about the villain reveal, I understand it. Aside from the humorous gag shown in the anime, the significance of the reveal isn't shown until the latest chapter of the manga (which is obviously not in the anime and thus can't be accounted for while reviewing the anime).

My one disagreement would be not rating the music as an A. I was worried at first given how great of a job Tatsuya Katou did, but TPF really brought their A-game for this season. I'd give the season an A- for the score, as I disagreed with a few musical choices and transitions in episode 11.

And as an aside, was anyone else weirded out seeing spoiler[Rokuro go from punching out Impurities to bullying lolis?]
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SilverTalon01



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:33 am Reply with quote
synaia wrote:
spoilering just in case, in the final ep spoiler[ I'm pretty sure the villain said he realized what Tanaka was and said she's a counter force.]


Nah, he didn't actually say that, but spoiler[what was said by Erica was reminiscent of what Archer said he did as a counter gaurdian.]
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Spike Terra
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:35 am Reply with quote
Theorn, I liked your analysis of the fourth season. This is my favorite season of Prisma Illya, which is saying something as I loved the other three seasons. Silver Link pushed themselves to the limit animating this season and that became very apparent in episode 11 . I wish they would have had more time to perfect the fight scenes but, I think they did a good job overall.

Character wise, I think Kuro and Illya's interactions were top notch this season. I think they balance each other really well. Another character who stood out to me was Gilgamesh, all of his scenes were fun to watch and I hope he appears more in later iterations of the series. I wished that Rin, Luvia and Bazett would have had more screen time this season though.

As for the villains, my favorite two additions are Beatrice and Darius. I really just liked Beatrice because her seiyuu's performance. Kugamiya Rie put alot of energy in her performance and that reflected on how much fun I had watching her character. While I enjoyed Shiraishi Ryoko's role as Angelica, I can't really get that invested in characters that are super serious all the time. spoiler[So I hope that now since she is apart of Illya's team, that her character will develop.] Darius dominated almost every scene he was in. He was so over the top and uncomfortable to watch that I couldn't get enough of him. spoiler[ Julian by comparison was kinda generic and no where near as fun as his dad. ]

I'm looking forward to the movie but I'm not looking forward to the wait for the movie getting subbed. So I might just start the manga to keep myself satisfied.
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mangamuscle



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:15 pm Reply with quote
I am grateful that the review and many of the fans weren't too harsh on episode 11 animation quality. I was fuming after watching it. I want to believe that SL deliberately went the "want the good stuff? buy the discs!" route, since I can't believe that the music score was also lukewarm (when prior arrangements for fights were spot on) on episode 11. Also there was this scene where Tanaka broke the ice wall that was off camera which leads me to believe they will do some retakes.

I think the movie idea is a stroke of genius, since the next arc isspoiler[shirou centric], therefore FSN fans which are not prillya fans can also enjoy it. Also, this will give the mangaka one more year to finish 3rei ( and maybe start 4ier ).

I do not think the plot is uninspired, it will be fleshed out later on.
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Renasviel



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:43 pm Reply with quote
I thought it was pretty good overall. Had some weak points here and there but as a whole it came together well, ended off on a logical point, the fights were a lot of fun and seeing some characters like Gilgamesh get to shine as a good guy was nice. I don't know if I would say it was the best Prisma has been, but that's not really a slight on 3rei. Prisma's main flaw beforehand for me was that it tended to take a while to ramp up in each season, a lot of it was fanservice in the last one but even back in the first it didn't feel all that much fun to me until the Saber fight. As a result, when Prisma did get good, it felt that much better due to the contrast. 3rei, on other hand, was solid, but because it didn't have that ramping up it didn't feel as great. But overall, nicely done, can't wait for the film.
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Jonny Mendes



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:13 pm Reply with quote
A nice season overall. They bring up the change of pace pretty good, with more focus on action than slice of life. This season have a more Fate feeling than the previous seasons as expected.

It ended here is expected to end, if they would make a movie for the flashback.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:09 pm Reply with quote
I thought the animation, and particularly the background work, was a bit worse than in previous seasons, but in most other areas I would rank this as the best season so far.

Good review Theron! Only thing that needs to be changed, is that the "mostly sheds loli fanservice elements" needs to be moved from the positives to the negatives section. Laughing Cool Just kidding, I swear! Razz
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Swami.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:19 pm Reply with quote
The battle animation in episode 11 was really gratifying! Those tag-team sequences with spoiler[ Shirou and Kuro ] really deserve special recognition. Although there were also some weird editing choices in that episode too. One question that comes to mind is how did they get from the spoiler[ battlefield to the suburbs ] so fast near the end of the episode? I re-winded it again to see if I had missed something, and it still boggles my mind.

As always though, great review Theron!
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Izanagi009



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:19 pm Reply with quote
TheDrmcvey. wrote:
One question that comes to mind is how did they get from the spoiler[ battlefield to the suburbs ] so fast near the end of the episode? I re-winded it again to see if I had missed something, and it still boggles my mind.


Honestly, I think that was just a smash cut made to create a contrast of mood after the victory
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Spike Terra
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:13 pm Reply with quote
I'd figure I would ask this question here since it's a fresh Prisma Illya thread, did anyone else pick up the blurays for season 2? Season 2 had 5 specials total but my sentai blurays only contained 3 of them. I found this a little odd and I was wondering if they were planning on adding the 2 missing specials to the third season's blurays.
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