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REVIEW: Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- Novel 2


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Dayblack



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:55 am Reply with quote
For people who have only seen the anime, I recommend reading from the first light novel.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:15 am Reply with quote
For people not familiar with Dayblack, keep in mind that he is a source material elitist.

Rebecca, if you see this, can you comment on how close the anime adaptation sticks to the source novel, so we have a more objective opinion? I haven't gotten around to reading this one yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:44 pm Reply with quote
It follows fairly closely in terms of plot events, with more insight into both Subaru's state of mind and hints about the twins and Roswaal.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:12 pm Reply with quote
but, are those hints actually useful or are they just light/webnovel style fluff ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:42 pm Reply with quote
Also, this volume covers episodes 4-7, not 4-6.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:41 pm Reply with quote
The one big difference I noticed is that it is Roswaal, not Puck, who teaches Subaru about magic and identifies his affinity. He doesn't learn an actual spell however, and since that is involved in the conclusion of this arc I assume that is coming in the next novel and the anime combined the two scenes.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:44 pm Reply with quote
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The one big difference I noticed is that it is Roswaal, not Puck, who teaches Subaru about magic and identifies his affinity.


And Ram doesn't see his pathetic dick and tell him to put it away. For shame.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:49 am Reply with quote
maximilianjenus wrote:
but, are those hints actually useful or are they just light/webnovel style fluff ?


Sorry for the brevity of my earlier response; I was in-between classes. I'd say that it's a mix of fluff and useful - the author generally stays away from what I think of as light/web novel filler text - descriptions of cuteness, tortured,over-wrought metaphors and slang, "goofy" scenes - in favor of making Subaru more of an actual person. It isn't perfect, but we're not treated to lengthy descriptions of Ram's body, for example. Most of the additional detail is in Subaru's interactions with Roswaal. Since I thought the anime just sort of glossed over him, I liked that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:59 am Reply with quote
thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:14 am Reply with quote
First, to Rebecca: in future, if you are going to point out things like:

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Roswaal's drawl fares much less well – English has yet to find an effective way to Romanize that particular Japanese speech affectation, and the character's lines quickly become annoying to read, although unlike some other translations, this one does lengthen the syllables that would be drawn out in English more naturally. Beatrice's speech pattern is likewise a bit irritating, but it smooths out the more she talks; whether that is a result of us growing used to it or the translator getting more comfortable with writing it is debatable.


...then please include actual examples from the light novel so we can see exactly what you are talking about.

Second, to anyone who may be familar with all the novel volumes published so far - how far did the anime get in its adaptation? Storywise, there's clearly a ton left to go since the contest over the royal selection has barely begun.
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Blood- wrote:
Second, to anyone who may be familar with all the novel volumes published so far - how far did the anime get in its adaptation? Storywise, there's clearly a ton left to go since the contest over the royal selection has barely begun.

It covered material up to the ninth volume, which hadn't been released when the anime finished. (More volumes have been released since then, and the 11th comes out in December). In the web novel, it covered up to chapter 84 of arc 3, as far as I can tell.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:46 am Reply with quote
Great, thanks very the info, G S Palmer.

And if I can beg your indulgence for another question (or to anyone else who may know): do the novels ever make clear if Subaru's loops are, in effect, parallel time lines or if when he starts over the entire world starts over as well? What I mean by that is, if say, Emilia, dies nine times in nine different loops but Subaru is successful in averting that fate in the 10th loop, does that mean that Emilia 1 thru 9 actually did die in their respective timelines or does it mean that all the Emilia deaths actually never happened (other than in Subaru's memory, of course) and Emilia 1 is saved? I know the anime never explained which version is true, but I wonder if the novels do.

For me, the question is more than just academic. I find it less easy to cheer Subura's "success" if he manages to save Emilia 10 but Emilia 1 thru 9 still suffered their fates in their timelines as opposed to saving Emilia 1 in a single timeline.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:59 am Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:

...then please include actual examples from the light novel so we can see exactly what you are talking about.


I willll keep thhhhaaaat in minnnd neeeext tiiiime. Do I have such trouble deciding when and when not to quote the text sometimes, I wonder.
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Ooooo, I see what you did there, you clever minx. Wink
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Blood- wrote:
And if I can beg your indulgence for another question (or to anyone else who may know): do the novels ever make clear if Subaru's loops are, in effect, parallel time lines or if when he starts over the entire world starts over as well? What I mean by that is, if say, Emilia, dies nine times in nine different loops but Subaru is successful in averting that fate in the 10th loop, does that mean that Emilia 1 thru 9 actually did die in their respective timelines or does it mean that all the Emilia deaths actually never happened (other than in Subaru's memory, of course) and Emilia 1 is saved? I know the anime never explained which version is true, but I wonder if the novels do.

For me, the question is more than just academic. I find it less easy to cheer Subura's "success" if he manages to save Emilia 10 but Emilia 1 thru 9 still suffered their fates in their timelines as opposed to saving Emilia 1 in a single timeline.


Arc 4, which takes place right after the anime, goes into a bit of detail regarding this, but I don't believe an actual answer is given.

Spoilers for Arc 4 below. These could be slightly inaccurate, but I know that what generally happens is correct.


spoiler[The Witch of Greed Echidna shows Subaru visions of what happened in several of the loops after he died, particularly the one where he's killed by Rem in the mansion in at the end of episode 5, and also the loop where Puck freezes Subaru after Betelgeuse kills Rem in episode 15. After this, Echidna tries to backpedal and say that these visions are only her interpretations of what could have happened, and the subject is dropped shortly after. So she doesn't really give Subaru an answer one way or the other.]
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