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Nice, hopefully the wait will be worth it.

I heard good things about the visual novel before so definitely going to give this a shot. The previews that has been shown over the past few months also sparked my interest a lot.

October, eh? Now I wonder when part 2 will release. Obviously, in 2018.

Someone humor me here. This is the last of the routes for fate stay night correct? We had the original fate stay night, UBW and then Heavens Feel. There are no other routes from the original novel right?

Lord Vaultman wrote:

Someone humor me here. This is the last of the routes for fate stay night correct? We had the original fate stay night, UBW and then Heavens Feel. There are no other routes from the original novel right?

That is correct.

Good hopefully this gets picked up for international distribution at some point as Heaven's Feel is my favorite story arc in Fate/Stay Night

Stark700 wrote:

Nice, hopefully the wait will be worth it.

I heard good things about the visual novel before so definitely going to give this a shot. The previews that has been shown over the past few months also sparked my interest a lot.

from what I have been told/read, in stay night shiro acts like a child, in ubw he acts like a teenager and in HF (this one) he acts like an adult, so depending on your tastes this should be the best route.

Lord Vaultman wrote:

Someone humor me here. This is the last of the routes for fate stay night correct? We had the original fate stay night, UBW and then Heavens Feel. There are no other routes from the original novel right?

as far as routes that exist, yes, in the lore there is supossed to be another route that creates certain conditions so the routes/sequels are possible, but it's not even proprely written anyway.

maximilianjenus wrote:

from what I have been told/read, in stay night shiro acts like a child, in ubw he acts like a teenager and in HF (this one) he acts like an adult, so depending on your tastes this should be the best route.

That isn't really true at all. spoiler[I mean I guess you could say he is pretty immature in the fate route because he doesn't see the problem with his plan, and it remains essentially a child's dream. However, I'd argue that HF is more childish and immature than UBW. He is a teenager completely blinded by his first crush to the point that he is willing to watch the world burn. His actions are just as childish as they were in the Fate route.

On the other hand, in UBW, he actually shows he has some perspective. I mean yes he does want to be a super hero, but that in itself doesn't make it childish. I wouldn't consider Batman, Captain America or a lot of other super heroes childish characters. Shiro is mature enough in UBW (thanks to Archer really) to know there is not a happy ending waiting for him. He knows that putting his life out there constantly will eventually result in his death, but he just still feels that he needs to save all the people he has the power to save. I think maybe people are paying too much attention to Shiro's 'I won't turn into you and resent my choice because reasons' line, but that isn't childish idealism. Things are actually different.]

maximilianjenus wrote:

as far as routes that exist, yes, in the lore there is supossed to be another route that creates certain conditions so the routes/sequels are possible, but it's not even proprely written anyway.

Well, there is Fate/Hollow Ataraxia which is a sequel to Heaven's Feel.

Alright, release date! Bad news, likely means only one feature this year.

SilverTalon01 wrote:

maximilianjenus wrote:

from what I have been told/read, in stay night shiro acts like a child, in ubw he acts like a teenager and in HF (this one) he acts like an adult, so depending on your tastes this should be the best route.

That isn't really true at all.

Well reasoned post, I enjoyed reading it.

imo, Shirou was progressively less annoying to read from Fate to UBW to HF, and his behavior and dialogue in HF was more mature than in previous routes; what comes to mind for me is spoiler[the scene where he comes into Sakura's room to kill her in her sleep and struggles with it; the way he's not even fazed when Kotomine admits to being Lancer's master, and works with Kotomine, despite their mutual dislike, to achieve a broader objective.

You are correct that the only morally right choice for Shirou is to stop Sakura in some way, even if the only option is homicide. That would have been the most adult choice, since it would minimize the number of casualties. But, it would still be a hard choice for any adult to make, so I can't fault Shirou too much for trying to find alternative solutions while Sakura is out massacring people.

Somewhat on a tangent, it might be too bad that killing Sakura is not an acceptable outcome to HF by design; killing Sakura would have made for an interesting piece of writing for a bad end. Shirou would have basically embraced Archer's point of view with that action.
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SilverTalon01 wrote:

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maximilianjenus wrote:

from what I have been told/read, in stay night shiro acts like a child, in ubw he acts like a teenager and in HF (this one) he acts like an adult, so depending on your tastes this should be the best route.

That isn't really true at all. spoiler[I mean I guess you could say he is pretty immature in the fate route because he doesn't see the problem with his plan, and it remains essentially a child's dream. However, I'd argue that HF is more childish and immature than UBW. He is a teenager completely blinded by his first crush to the point that he is willing to watch the world burn. His actions are just as childish as they were in the Fate route.

On the other hand, in UBW, he actually shows he has some perspective. I mean yes he does want to be a super hero, but that in itself doesn't make it childish. I wouldn't consider Batman, Captain America or a lot of other super heroes childish characters. Shiro is mature enough in UBW (thanks to Archer really) to know there is not a happy ending waiting for him. He knows that putting his life out there constantly will eventually result in his death, but he just still feels that he needs to save all the people he has the power to save. I think maybe people are paying too much attention to Shiro's 'I won't turn into you and resent my choice because reasons' line, but that isn't childish idealism. Things are actually different.]

maximilianjenus wrote:

as far as routes that exist, yes, in the lore there is supossed to be another route that creates certain conditions so the routes/sequels are possible, but it's not even proprely written anyway.

Well, there is Fate/Hollow Ataraxia which is a sequel to Heaven's Feel.

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Since it's a movie, and in HF the sex scenes matter to plot, will they show sex in the films?

There's a sfw version of the route in the visual novel PS Vita release, so as important to the plot as the sex is, it did get a replacement (I think they just do bloodsucking or something instead?). I'd be okay with either.

I'm upset the director is the dude from UBW and not Fate/Zero. I hope these movies don't have the horrible pacing that UBW had.

Ambimunch wrote:

I'm upset the director is the dude from UBW and not Fate/Zero. I hope these movies don't have the horrible pacing that UBW had.

this isn't miura who is the director of UBW, this is the animation director who only ever directed Kara no kyoukai mirai fukuin. And the fate/zero director left to create troyca (and directed aldnoah) who is also directing the new anime coming out this April, called re:creators Written by hireo rei (who created black lagoon).

As a big Fate/Stay night fan I'm really excited for the movies. But I will say that the visual novel is highly overrated, especially in the "good writing" category, specifically the English translation by Mirror Moon. The grammar is bad enough that if Realta Nua ever, miraculously got licensed they would need a year to just go and correct all the bad grammar!

Now in the Japanese the writing could be stellar, but because I can't read Japanese I can't tell you how good the original writing is.

All the adaptations, including Studio Deen have better writing and grammar structure than the fan translations for the VN and the anime. This is regarding the official Blu-Ray subs, which had to correct grammar errors in Cruchyroll's translation and Geneon's translations for the subtitles for the Fate/Stay Night 2014 anime.

Fate/Stay Night is a great franchise, but people saying the VN is a literary masterpiece in English haven't realized how bad the grammar is in the fan translation for the VN.

Type Lunatics are also gonna throw fits over whatever gets cut from this movie, because it's the longest route.

If you read and write a lot you will facepalm at Mirror Moon's translation.

mglittlerobin wrote:

As a big Fate/Stay night fan I'm really excited for the movies. But I will say that the visual novel is highly overrated, especially in the "good writing" category, specifically the English translation by Mirror Moon. The grammar is bad enough that if Realta Nua ever, miraculously got licensed they would need a year to just go and correct all the bad grammar!

Now in the Japanese the writing could be stellar, but because I can't read Japanese I can't tell you how good the original writing is.

All the adaptations, including Studio Deen have better writing and grammar structure than the fan translations for the VN and the anime. This is regarding the official Blu-Ray subs, which had to correct grammar errors in Cruchyroll's translation and Geneon's translations for the subtitles for the Fate/Stay Night 2014 anime.

Fate/Stay Night is a great franchise, but people saying the VN is a literary masterpiece in English haven't realized how bad the grammar is in the fan translation for the VN.

Type Lunatics are also gonna throw fits over whatever gets cut from this movie, because it's the longest route.

If you read and write a lot you will facepalm at Mirror Moon's translation.

it depends on how long the movies are as well as what they decide to cut, their is plenty of areas that can be left out or implied through visual storytelling. However it'll depend on how skilled the director is. Which will be hard to judge since the only thing he directed was Kara no kyoukai mirai fukuin, which was a great Almost 1:1 adaptation of the novel. And on to your point of the translation of fate/stay night, yeah it is extremely bad as a translation. It doesn't help that the person who did it was not a native speaker in Japanese or English, and was also a highschool student when he translated it.

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