×
  • remind me tomorrow
  • remind me next week
  • never remind me
Subscribe to the ANN Newsletter • Wake up every Sunday to a curated list of ANN's most interesting posts of the week. read more

Forum - View topic
REVIEW: Gosick: The Complete Series BD+DVD




Note: this is the discussion thread for this article

Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
zensunni



Joined: 05 Mar 2010
Posts: 1293
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:32 am Reply with quote
A fair review, however...

Even when the show was first airing, I had this same ... I'll call it a discussion rather than argument .. with people on message boards about the show. What most people fail to notice about Gosick is that the individual mysteries, while they SEEM episodic in nature, are not really so. As the story continues, you realize that they all build upon one another, building an overarching mystery that spans the entire length of the story. In the review, Rebecca hinted at aspects of that overarching mystery, since much of it has to do with Victorique's mother and the reason for her birth.

I can't really speak to the costuming inaccuracies, but as for historical issues, one needs to remember that this is CERTAINLY and ALTERNATE time line and NOT based on anything resembling the actual timeline of our world in terms of WWI and WWII.

I received my copy in the mail on release day but have yet to take the time to watch it. I should really watch the dub to see how I like it. It is a shame that they have that pronunciation problem, but if that is the extent to which the dub has issues, it is probably an excellent effort. (As long as everyone pronounces it the same way, does it really matter if they pronounce it "correctly" after all? It is a NAME. Who are we to say how it should be pronounced. Remember Young Frankenstein with Igor and Frankenstein insisting on the alternate pronunciations of their names?)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
TarsTarkas



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Posts: 5824
Location: Virginia, United States
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:40 am Reply with quote
Since I have no knowledge of period costumes, I think this critique will matter little to those who are not costume-philes.

I loved Gosick, and when Funimation released it, it was a great day.

Only watched four episodes of the dub, but I think it is pretty good. I have no complaints over it. I agree with the reviewer, that it is the characters that make the show.

Not to mention, this show has a clear ending, a spoiler[happy ending], despite what some naysayers will postulate.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Animegomaniac



Joined: 16 Feb 2012
Posts: 4079
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:31 pm Reply with quote
I have even less knowledge about the show but I do know French. Japan, come over here. Lesson time! The name would be "Du Bois". Du Bois. Blois isn't a name, it's not even a word and sadly, it would be pronounced "du blwah" with a lot of tongue dangling and spit in any kind of romance language. Neither the Anglo Saxon English or French tongue would or should ever try to attempt it. It may not be Cthulu but it really shouldn't be what it is either.

Victorique. Ok, it's set in post Victorian times, the same itself from Queen Victoria. However, the queen's English, end of story. End of name? Rick? Really?

In other words, I don't believe the problem is with the dub's pronunciation.

Kazuya Kujo, nothing wrong with but they would have better luck pulling the European girl's name out of a hat.

Kerwood Durby, Nana Fedora or... let's face it, it's Japan... Blue Bonnet Beret.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Morry



Joined: 26 Jun 2016
Posts: 756
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:39 pm Reply with quote
I have issues with Gosick's last few episodes but, rewatching the dub, I was surprised to find how much I really enjoyed the series. This is a great buy for anyone who likes mystery dramas.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Agent355



Joined: 12 Dec 2008
Posts: 5113
Location: Crackberry in hand, thumbs at the ready...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:43 pm Reply with quote
I clicked on the review and started reading without noting who wrote it, but as soon as I read the line "waist lines were low and hemlines were high," I knew it must be Rebecca Silverman, and sure enough, I was right! Very Happy Rebecca, I love the way you always add historical and literary context to your reviews and always enjoy reading them. I have a question about costumes, though. Based on my research (mostly of watching some Downton Abbey episodes set in the 20s), "modern" 20's fashion was not completely acceptable to everyone at the time, especially older, richer types, so wouldn't it make sense for a strict father to limit his daughter's wardrobe to older styles?
All I knew about this show was that it had a historical setting, took place in a school, and involved episodic mystery solving. Figuring it was another gender-bent "Sherlock Holmes in school" clone and not being much of a fan of anthology mystery series, I wasn't all that interested in watching it. Learning it has a supernatural aspect and better-than-average character relationship development makes me want to check it out. Thanks!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
harminia



Joined: 24 Aug 2015
Posts: 2000
Location: australia
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:58 pm Reply with quote
Quote:
although originally streamed on Crunchyroll and slated for physical release by Bandai, is only now seeing the light of day after several years in limbo, thanks to Funimation.


in US sure, but in Australia and NZ it had been out for ages from Madman. (That said, the title is no longer sold on the Madman store now, but that's pretty recent, I believe)


Anyway, (as you can maybe tell from my username), I love Gosick. It's not a great mystery, but it's a great series, so if you're coming for the mysteries you'll be disappointed, but hopefully be pleased by what ends up being a very rewarding and emotional story.

I wish Tokyopop had done more of the novels. They did like heaps of them at the German branch Sad

One thing that gives Gosick extra points in my book, is the character albums that were released. In the show Victorique is a terrible singer, so she has two versions of her character songs: One is the extended, proper Aoi Yuuki singing one and one is a short version with Victorique's horrible singing. It's truly wonderful (though not pleasing for the ears of course).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer


Joined: 16 Dec 2008
Posts: 2606
Location: The castle beyond the Goblin City
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:15 pm Reply with quote
Agent355 wrote:
I clicked on the review and started reading without noting who wrote it, but as soon as I read the line "waist lines were low and hemlines were high," I knew it must be Rebecca Silverman, and sure enough, I was right! Very Happy Rebecca, I love the way you always add historical and literary context to your reviews and always enjoy reading them.


Embarassed Laughing Very Happy Thank you! I guess I am kind of predictable that way, and I'm really happy to hear that you enjoy it.

Quote:
I have a question about costumes, though. Based on my research (mostly of watching some Downton Abbey episodes set in the 20s), "modern" 20's fashion was not completely acceptable to everyone at the time, especially older, richer types, so wouldn't it make sense for a strict father to limit his daughter's wardrobe to older styles?


Older, yes, but within reason - the outfits that most of the women are wearing would have been in fashion around 1904 or 1914, so it would have been like a parent making their child dress like Shirley Temple today, particularly given the way styles were going in 1924. Certainly not every woman was wearing a knee-length skirt or a sleeveless top, but a conservative woman would have dressed more like the teacher in the series. Have you see the Australian TV series "Miss Fisher's Mysteries?" That's set later, but the way her companion Dot dresses is a good example of mid-to-late 20s conservative dress. More immediately, this site has some good pictures of actual (conservative) clothing patterns sold in both 1924 and 1925 - you can really see the rapid changes. Many of the women in the show are dressed more like this, which is twenty years earlier. Victorique's dresses are actually more 18th century-inspired.

Since I'm babbling, one of my favorite things about the 20s was the way the old Gibson Girl, or S-shaping, corset and hobble skirt went away. I wore one of those corsets once, and it was quite the experience.

Anyway, yes, worth watching! And please someone, license rescue the novels...!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ScruffyKiwi



Joined: 25 Oct 2010
Posts: 674
Location: New Zealand
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:33 am Reply with quote
harminia wrote:

in US sure, but in Australia and NZ it had been out for ages from Madman. (That said, the title is no longer sold on the Madman store now, but that's pretty recent, I believe)
.


With a bit of luck thats because Madman are going to rerelease it with the dub. I have the origional release but I would gladly double dip, especially if they do a BluRay release.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pibburns



Joined: 30 Oct 2011
Posts: 117
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:14 am Reply with quote
Animegomaniac wrote:
I have even less knowledge about the show but I do know French. Japan, come over here. Lesson time! The name would be "Du Bois". Du Bois. Blois isn't a name, it's not even a word and sadly, it would be pronounced "du blwah" with a lot of tongue dangling and spit in any kind of romance language


Actually Blois is a perfectly good French name. Blois is a town in the Loire valley in France, home of the rather famous Château Royal de Blois. Well worth visiting if you ever get the chance.

While I can't say that either Blois or de Blois are commonly used surnames, there are folks who do carry one or the other. For example, folks with an interest in architecture will recognize the name of Natalie de Blois, who passed away just a few years ago.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Merxamers



Joined: 09 Dec 2013
Posts: 720
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:31 am Reply with quote
Princess_Irene wrote:

Anyway, yes, worth watching! And please someone, license rescue the novels...!


I'd say the odds have never been better for a license rescue like this. There are an unbelievable number of light novels being published in english right now, so if there's a demand i bet somebody will pick it up. I'm unfamiliar with this series, but from i'm hearing i might pick it up.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer


Joined: 16 Dec 2008
Posts: 2606
Location: The castle beyond the Goblin City
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:18 pm Reply with quote
Yes, I'm tentatively hopeful, especially since it's a relatively short series. (Although I'd want the sequel series as well, as long as I'm being greedy.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
harminia



Joined: 24 Aug 2015
Posts: 2000
Location: australia
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:37 pm Reply with quote
Merxamers wrote:
I'd say the odds have never been better for a license rescue like this. There are an unbelievable number of light novels being published in english right now, so if there's a demand i bet somebody will pick it up. I'm unfamiliar with this series, but from i'm hearing i might pick it up.


depends on if tokyopop still have the license hostage...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
H. Guderian



Joined: 29 Jan 2014
Posts: 1255
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:05 am Reply with quote
I liked the show a lot. I think it kinda became frustrating and unraveled when it stopped solving mysteries near the end, but the ride prior to that was still worth it ad while it did jump the shark, it at least jumped it to an interesting area.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Kadmos1



Joined: 08 May 2014
Posts: 13552
Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:46 am Reply with quote
Princess_Irene wrote:
Yes, I'm tentatively hopeful, especially since it's a relatively short series. (Although I'd want the sequel series as well, as long as I'm being greedy.)

J-Novel would be a good licensor since they are quick in releasing the novels into parts. Heck, I sometimes think Sam has his translators overworked.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Anime News Network Forum Index -> Site-related -> Talkback All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group